The Impeachment Thread

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MontyPython said:
To all the Trump supporters who said there was "no first hand testimony" during the House Inquiry, you now support hearing from those first hand witnesses during the Senate trial... right?

I mean, you can't on the one hand complain that the process has been unfair, and that all testimony was "hearsay" up to this point, but then reject actually hearing from those who were directly involved... right?

Surely, if you support Trump and truly believe that his call with Ukraine was "perfect" and that he's done nothing wrong, calling such witnesses will clearly prove his innocence... right?

Plus, calling such witnesses opens the door to allow Republicans to call witnesses including Hunter Biden, the WB, Shiff, the Kool Aid man, whoever they want.

So, you support this... right?

I mean, more transparency is a good thing... right?

The intriguing question about the ongoing debate between McConnell and Shumer to set the rules of the Senate trial is what if they don't reach an agreement on this and other matters? Does SCOTUS CJ Roberts opine on procedural issues ad hoc along the way? Does the GOP simply try to shut down the entire process without witnesses? It's not a question as to whether or not these first hand witnesses have salient testimony to share - Bolton has already said he does, for instance. Rather, the question now is whether the GOP will allow factual witnesses to be heard.

If not, clearly the facts are not with the GOP.

"Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer made it clear in a letter to Majority Leader Mitch McConnell Sunday night that he prefers a Senate impeachment trial with witness testimony and new documents, a direct rebuttal to top Republicans who have argued in recent days that a shorter trial without witnesses would spare the Senate from becoming a partisan circus. In the letter obtained by CNN, Schumer, a New York Democrat, called for at least four witnesses to testify, including acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, former national security adviser John Bolton, senior adviser to the acting White House chief of staff Robert Blair and Office of Management and Budget official Michael Duffey.
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It will not make it to the Senate. It's DOA.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
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The right and center are aligned these days. The left has left us moderates in the dust. I think the labour party in the UK is starting to realize you can’t just leave the middle and preach to the far left. When will Democrat’s learn their lesson? I don’t know, but I have seen them double down every time they have a set back. I’d honestly love for their party to die off. They deserve it.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Not at all. But thanks for your concern.
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With sincerety, I'm sorry to hear that - take care of your mental health. I'm sure your employer has programs that can help you work things out. Again, taking a break from political forums might help.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
It will not make it to the Senate. It's DOA.
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Ummm... not sure you're understanding the process. Once impeachment is passed in the House, it definitely goes before the full Senate... kind of like a bill. Now the Senate could vote to basically kill it upon arrival, but that would require 51 votes in favor. Any senators in purple states doing so would face alot of backlash.
 
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MontyPython said:
Ummm... not sure you're understanding the process. Once impeachment is passed in the House, it definitely goes before the full Senate... kind of like a bill. Now the Senate could vote to basically kill it upon arrival, but that would require 51 votes in favor. Any senators in purple states doing so would face alot of backlash.
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Again, it's DOA.
 
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MontyPython said:
Ummm... not sure you're understanding the process. Once impeachment is passed in the House, it definitely goes before the full Senate... kind of like a bill. Now the Senate could vote to basically kill it upon arrival, but that would require 51 votes in favor. Any senators in purple states doing so would face alot of backlash.
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LOL.
 
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Congress goes on recess at the end of this week. They are out until the 3rd of January. I hope this show can continue through this week and well into the session beginning in 2020. The longer this goes on, the better.
 
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McDad said:
Congress goes on recess at the end of this week. They are out until the 3rd of January. I hope this show can continue through this week and well into the session beginning in 2020. The longer this goes on, the better.
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I feel like they will still figure out a way to pass shady pork barrel backroom deals except no one will notice because it will get lost behind the shiny 24 hour cycle trinkets tossed out by the media.
 
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Septic said:
I feel like they will still figure out a way to pass shady pork barrel backroom deals except no one will notice because it will get lost behind the shiny 24 hour cycle trinkets tossed out by the media.
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Grinch!
 
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0nelilreb said:
If one guy in a crowd shuts him down like that , Trump will roast him on a debate and the campaign Trail . People can deny it all they want , but if he’s going to be the selected one , he better get a handle on that .
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Biden used to be really aggressive in one on ones. Maybe his age and his early indicators of dementia are too much for him to overcome.
 
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