The Impeachment Thread

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#28,576
BowlBrother85 said:
Viktor Shokin wasn't fired for investigating Burisma Holdings. That investigation had been dormant for several months at the time that Shokin was fired. Shokin was fired because he WASN'T investigating corruption in the Ukraine. During Shokin's time as General Prosecutor of the Ukraine, he failed to obtain a conviction of any major public figure. No oligarch, no bureaucrat, no politician, nobody was convicted in the cesspool that is the Ukraine. You, just like Trump and his supporters, are taking a 20 second video clip out of context. Watch the entirety of that conference/interview he was in. It is not what you seem to think it is. All evidence points to Shokin being more a part of the corruption in the Ukraine, than he was someone trying to put a stop to it.
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I'm simply asking for an independent investigation. Not an execution. Investigate it. If it comes out, post investigation, that Hunters involvement had nothing to do with it, fine.

Let me ask you this, let's say Ukraine did an investigation into to stopping corruption and it was confirmed that Biden withheld funds until the prosecutor was fired. Let's say it was also confirmed that it was a reaction to his sons involvement. Would that change your mind on the Trump impeachment?
 
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Septic said:
I'm sure that badgering him in a MAGA hat rattled him into changing his vote.

On a side note, Nadler could double for the Penguin if he replaced his glasses for a monocle.
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Add blurring the line between “news correspondent” and shrieking activist as pillars of the Trumpist platform, I guess.
 
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#28,578
Septic said:
Biden, the whole administration and the GOP Congress including our allies all supported removal of the prosecutor. This is conveniently left out of the narrative - everyone wanted him gone.
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That may be. But only one admitted to telling them no money until hes fired.

My point isnt that he is guilty of doing that for personal gain. Its that investigating it is a legit inquiry.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Add blurring the line between “news correspondent” and shrieking activist as pillars of the Trumpist platform, I guess.
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He was a news correspondent? H.F.S. I figured him to be a proud boy.

I guess anyone can claim that title nowadays.
 
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#28,580
utvols88 said:
That may be. But only one admitted to telling them no money until hes fired.

My point isnt that he is guilty of doing that for personal gain. Its that investigating it is a legit inquiry.
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Yet the narrative has been to foist that BIDEN targeted the prosecutor, which isn't true. EVERYONE wanted him out, Biden was simply happy to get to be the hatchetman.

If it were a legit inquiry, it should have gone through legit channels and without even a preponderance of the threat of holding sorely needed military aid.

The moment Guliani got involved, the investigation became a shady political hit job.
 
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#28,584
RockyTop85 said:
Ben Bergquam (@BBergquam) on Twitter
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Yeah, I was just making the assumption since you described him as "blurring the line between “news correspondent” and shrieking activist as pillars of the Trumpist platform"

I assumed he'd be a Fox news guy.....

Oh wait. Guess who just got an interview as Hannity's intern?

 
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#28,585
Septic said:
Yet the narrative has been to foist that BIDEN targeted the prosecutor, which isn't true. EVERYONE wanted him out, Biden was simply happy to get to be the hatchetman.

If it were a legit inquiry, it should have gone through legit channels and without even a preponderance of the threat of holding sorely needed military aid.

The moment Guliani got involved, the investigation became a shady political hit job.
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Agree on some and disagree on other points. Ukraine would need to have an investigation too. There are some materials that may be inaccessible to the DOJ. I think both should investigate.
 
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#28,587
utvols88 said:
Agree on some and disagree on other points. Ukraine would need to have an investigation too. There are some materials that may be inaccessible to the DOJ. I think both should investigate.
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We have a treaty with Ukraine that covers exactly that. It doesn’t require or even contemplate presidential involvement.
 
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Septic said:
I'm sure that badgering him in a MAGA hat rattled him into changing his vote.

On a side note, Nadler could double for the Penguin if he replaced his glasses for a monocle.
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Wrong NY politician

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#28,592
Septic said:
I don't recall you grousing about Trumps continued use of an unsecured cell phone as a big deal, so maybe spare us from the faux outrage. If opsec was a big deal then, it still is now right?
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I’ve said it multiple times now , The IRONY in this article that is talking about misinformation being dangerous is what I was pointing out . They down play the email server as “ small potatoes “ while trying to up sale Trumps long history of legal issues . I had no faux outrage . I couldn’t care less that Hils used a private server it was the way she did away with it and her other devices I was pointing to . I havnt seen or heard Trump do that have you ?
If you are going to keep licking windows at least lick the ones without Windex , it’s affecting your reading skills .
 
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#28,595
Septic said:
I don't recall you grousing about Trumps continued use of an unsecured cell phone as a big deal, so maybe spare us from the faux outrage. If opsec was a big deal then, it still is now right?
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I’ve said it multiple times now , The IRONY in this article that is talking about misinformation being dangerous is what I was pointing out . They down play the email server as “ small potatoes “ while trying to up sale Trumps long history of legal issues . I had no faux outrage . I couldn’t care less that Hils used a private server it was the way she did away with it and her other devices I was pointing to . I havnt seen or heard Trump do that have you ?
If you are going to keep licking windows at least lick the ones without Windex , it’s affecting your reading skills .
 
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