The Impeachment Thread

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GVF said:
And likewise, my opinion was that voting for Trump was the lesser of 2 evils and feel very fortunate she is not in office now. She is that bad, and makes Trump look like a 13 year old in steamed up glasses on his first panty raid.
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Lol good one
 
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PointGuard said:
Indict her. Convict her. It would please me. Since 1964 I have only ever voted for the lesser of two evils. There has never been a candidate who I thought was for the people. I think Hillary is a scumbag POS as a politician and likely as a human being

But under the heading of voting for the lessor of two evils I voted for Hillary in 2016. Trump is that bad and makes Hillary look like a virgin on Prom Queen night
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So you had to be 21 to vote in 1964 and that was 55 years ago. So, if you are telling the "truth", you have to be, at the very least, 76 years old. So are you at least 76?

How come you post like a 6 year old?
 
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37L1 said:
So you had to be 21 to vote in 1964 and that was 55 years ago. So, if you are telling the "truth", you have to be, at the very least, 76 years old. So are you at least 76?

How come you post like a 6 year old?
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He forgot the 7 in front of the 6 when it came to his age?
 
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Septic said:
I still don't understand what more proof is needed, exclusive of everything else - Mulvaney admitted it. And conveniently, the other people with direct first hand knowledge that can speak to it - are hiding out in the White House.

So to recap, first hand accounts and an admission = not meeting an arbitrary "burden" of proof? OK... That's simply not a rational conclusion. Instead, a far more reasoned statement is to acknowledge that trump did it, because of the mountain of evidence, first hand accounts and the admission and simply make the argument it doesn't meet your level of impeachment worthy. One of these these things is debatable while one of them makes you look detached from the reality of the facts..
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To recap, how many witnesses the first two weeks, when ask directly if there was anything done wrong, said no, it was only their opinion? Or they assumed? All of them. I watched. I saw and heard that answer multiple times. I saw, live, every single witness contradict themselves under cross examination. Intellectually, I cannot view that and say with certainty Trump should be removed. Is he guilty in reality. Quite possibly. Is he innocent. possibly. Do you want to convince me he is? Don't bring contradictory witnesses that can't keep their story together. It's not about Trump at this point. It's about the process. It's our process, and should be preserved. When witnesses give different answers and accounts depending on whose asking, I cry BS.
 
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Lets be honest here. This is nothing more than them hating Trump. This "phone call" is just a label to be having the hearings. For them to preach on tolerance while being so vile makes this all laughable. And when they say tolerance it really means pandering to another group. They could care less about anyone but votes.
 
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Mick said:
Did you read the NPR article? That seems to be the case and it sounded like he picked the location.
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I haven't read it. Did the article allude to or claim outright the Ambassador knew the location was a Black Ops site and/or he wanted to be stationed there for that reason?
 
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PointGuard said:
F(ck you. Google your own proof. I pointed up you wouldn’t believe anything I presented

You just confirmed that

Just google something like Russian guarantee Trump Deutsch bank loans
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Hahahahahahaha! You didn't "prove" anything, except that you've got nothing to back up your BS, as usual. GTFO with your version of "truth."

First one that popped up:
Deutsche Bank examined Trump's account for Russia links

The internal review found no evidence of any Russia link

However, two bank sources have told the Guardian that it found no evidence to show the loans had been underwritten by money from Moscow, or any Russian bank.

The rest are based upon the famous "unnamed sources." With no proof. Just like you.
 
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Mick said:
Did you read the NPR article? That seems to be the case and it sounded like he picked the location.
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...and please, do not take my questions as combative. I am trying to get a handle on the context of our presence there. It may not change my indictment of our failure to protect, but it may.
 
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McDad said:
I haven't read it. Did the article allude to or claim outright the Ambassador knew the location was a Black Ops site and/or he wanted to be stationed there for that reason?
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Please do. It was dated September 12, 2012. Probably before Obama blamed a youtube video.
 
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Septic said:
That literally makes no sense. You brought up what you considered a problem with "sensibilities", sounds a lot like you are the one who has the problem with the "feelz."

Back to the drawing board gb, or just post pictures - reasoned debate has never been your strong suit.
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Yes I have a problem w libs who are governed by their FEELINGS instead of facts. The dog any pony show we’re witnessing is testament to that. We have “witnesses” who didn’t actually witness anything. We have law school professors lecturing congress on foreign policy, and bureaucrats who are sad they aren’t the ones to dictate policy to the President instead of it being the other way around. Impeachment is about high crimes and misdemeanors and back to my original point, it appears Libs think it’s a high crime to offend their FEELINGS
 
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McDad said:
...and please, do not take my questions as combative. I am trying to get a handle on the context of our presence there. It may not change my indictment of our failure to protect, but it may.
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I didn't take it as combative, but I would like you to read it.
 
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McDad said:
Where did you get acceptance?
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Maybe I misunderstood your comments, but calling things “status quo” and a “soap opera” seems dismissive and dismissing oversight/accountability practices did not give me a sense that you were saying “this is unacceptable.” Seems more like resignation.

I suppose I should also be more clear and explain that I agree that they are supposed to work for us. I don’t agree that what is happening is status quo. Nixon tried to make this the status quo and failed.
 
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golfballs said:
Yes I have a problem w libs who are governed by their FEELINGS instead of facts. The dog any pony show we’re witnessing is testament to that. We have “witnesses” who didn’t actually witness anything. We have law school professors lecturing congress on foreign policy, and bureaucrats who are sad they aren’t the ones to dictate policy to the President instead of it being the other way around. Impeachment is about high crimes and misdemeanors and back to my original point, it appears Libs think it’s a high crime to offend their FEELINGS
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Is that really the way you feel about it?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Maybe I misunderstood your comments, but calling things “status quo” and a “soap opera” seems dismissive and dismissing oversight/accountability practices did not give me a sense that you were saying “this is unacceptable.” Seems more like resignation.

I suppose I should also be more clear and explain that I agree that they are supposed to work for us. I don’t agree that what is happening is status quo. Nixon tried to make this the status quo and failed.
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Yes. You misunderstood. I don't give a dam about Trump, impeachment, the "investigation". It is all politics. The tweets, interviews, televised "testimony" are all political theater. I admire those who have faith in what they see in DC. I do not.
 
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37L1 said:
So you had to be 21 to vote in 1964 and that was 55 years ago. So, if you are telling the "truth", you have to be, at the very least, 76 years old. So are you at least 76?

How come you post like a 6 year old?
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I’m shovin 77. I’m speaking down to your level. Problem is it still goes beyond your capacity for reasoning.
 
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McDad said:
Here's a quote I like. It is attributed to Eleanor Roosevelt but is likely created by Henry Thomas Buckle:
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people"

What are we doing in this thread and in this forum?
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Since day one, I've been discussing the ideas behind the election of and continued support of a horrendously despicable human as POTUS.

It's all about the ideas that led to the event and the ideas the explain the continued support.

If you discuss serial killers, are you discussing ideas, event, or people? (see how I avoided evoking Hitler?)
 
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