Velo Vol
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I'm not seeing either side act honorably at this point, for me they are a wash. I couldn't be president, I would offend everyone.We constantly ask our politicians to do the right thing even if it's not in their political self interest.
I'm not going to complain on that rare occasion when they actually do that.
Karlan had made a point earlier during the House Judiciary Committee's hearing about impeachment in response to a question from Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, on how Trump as president was different from a king.Yea but no one with a brain is buying their BS anymore. But it sure is fun to watch them.
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So when he says he is looking into 2016 election interference, whether you believe that to be a valid reason or not, is that not the offered justification? I will say that I at least appreciate you trying to hold a rational discussion unlike others on here. We may disagree but we can still respect each other.I honestly don't follow any logic here.
Please read this piece. It's legal, but sums up the issues you seem to be batting around pretty well.
Did President Trump Commit the Federal Crime of Bribery?
TLDR...
"To the extent Trump solicited an announcement unrelated to any actual investigation, he was not soliciting an official act that may be described as part of “logrolling.” Trump thus went beyond the exchange of public acts that constitute political or diplomatic logrolling. His conduct would support a finding of an exchange of official acts (by Trump) for things of value (the public statement sought from Zelensky) and as no public justification for seeking the statement has been offered, the corrupt intent necessary to maintain a bribery charge. "
Let me be very clear about one thing: If Obama did 1/10th of what Trump has done throughout his presidency the republicans(all of them) would have simultaneously spontaneously combusted.
So when he says he is looking into 2016 election interference, whether you believe that to be a valid reason or not, is that not the offered justification? I will say that I at least appreciate you trying to hold a rational discussion unlike others on here. We may disagree but we can still respect each other.I honestly don't follow any logic here.
Please read this piece. It's legal, but sums up the issues you seem to be batting around pretty well.
Did President Trump Commit the Federal Crime of Bribery?
TLDR...
"To the extent Trump solicited an announcement unrelated to any actual investigation, he was not soliciting an official act that may be described as part of “logrolling.” Trump thus went beyond the exchange of public acts that constitute political or diplomatic logrolling. His conduct would support a finding of an exchange of official acts (by Trump) for things of value (the public statement sought from Zelensky) and as no public justification for seeking the statement has been offered, the corrupt intent necessary to maintain a bribery charge. "
literally shaking rn
Lol. How can you cooperate when they say you can't have your lawyers present?You do understand that Trump, Mulvaney, and John Bolton have all refused to cooperate with the investigation. The White house has also refused to turn over any documents. We all know why, they refuse to testify under oath because they are guilty as hell. Yay obstruction! So much for cooperation and transparency.
My feelings about Schiff are still holding true. He's a fkng schmuck and Congress should be subpeonaing his phone recordsYea but no one with a brain is buying their BS anymore. But it sure is fun to watch them.
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