The Impeachment Thread

[PointGuard]

Politicians only have so much trust from the voters to start with . Congress is some of the least trusted people in this country . Couple that with the immediate gratification culture we live in today , with attention spans only being as long as a tweet or a Tik Tok video and long investigations are doomed from the start unless you can constantly prove something .

I’m shocked. You said something I agree 100% with. 5 to 7 % favorability rating of Congress should be embarrassing to them and provide an incentive to do better

 

[PointGuard]

All you have to do to satisfy your party is impeach and remove him . Anything less than that is a failure if you have the proof . That’s just not going to happen is it ? So now we are down to what censure ? 3 years going on 4 to come up with a censor from the Dem controlled house ? Really ?

The Republicans controlled the house and the senate until January 2019, 12 months ago

Nunes prevented a thorough investigation of Russia and Lindsey pitched in in the Senate

So the 3 years has mostly been obstruction of justice by the Republicans at the insistence

Bowlbrothers has it right. There will once again be Democrat President and the same circumstances will be reversed. Our civility will have been reduced to a new low and a dangerous precedence will have been set

 

[luthervol]

I’m not playing your game today Luther. I don’t care that he didn’t release his tax returns. And I think it was a smart move on his part. Thus I don’t care about your question.

LOL....It's no game. The fact that you think it is telling.
Process the fact that you can't even bring yourself to say that it was stupid and wrong for him to continually and knowingly lie to the American public.
That's a pretty good synopsis of how and why we got to this point.

 

[NorthDallas40]

LOL....It's no game. The fact that you think it is telling.
Process the fact that you can't even bring yourself to say that it was stupid and wrong for him to continually and knowingly lie to the American public.
That's a pretty good synopsis of how and why we got to this point.

Actually it is a game. And the fact that you’re conflating it as you usually do is expected. Carry on.

 

[0nelilreb]

The Republicans controlled the house and the senate until January 2019, 12 months ago

Nunes prevented a thorough investigation of Russia and Lindsey pitched in in the Senate

So the 3 years has mostly been obstruction of justice by the Republicans at the insistence

Bowlbrothers has it right. There will once again be Democrat President and the same circumstances will be reversed. Our civility will have been reduced to a new low and a dangerous precedence will have been set

That’s a nice spin except for a special prosecutor that was appointed with the entire weight of the government behind him . Civility always takes a hit when society is perceived to be pulled too far left or right . When a Dem holds the office again , I have a feeling it’s going to be a very trying experience unless they hold both the house and senate . There will be lawsuits for ever action taken , just like the left has done with Trump .

 

[luthervol]

Actually it is a game. And the fact that you’re conflating it as you usually do is expected. Carry on.

Excuse and normalize.....you can't even condemn Trump when he is obviously deserving. You sold out your credibility long ago and continue to do so, along with most all of the trumpers.
Carry on, back at you.

 

[luthervol]

That’s a nice spin except for a special prosecutor that was appointed with the entire weight of the government behind him . Civility always takes a hit when society is perceived to be pulled too far left or right . When a Dem holds the office again , I have a feeling it’s going to be a very trying experience unless they hold both the house and senate . There will be lawsuits for ever action taken , just like the left has done with Trump .

There is no doubt that the trump catastrophe will have long lasting negative implications. That truth was known from day one.
Each day he remains in office compounds those implications.

 

[0nelilreb]

There is no doubt that the trump catastrophe will have long lasting negative implications. That truth was known from day one.
Each day he remains in office compounds those implications.

Actions and reactions ... this didn’t start with Trump and it’s a large reason congress has such a low approval rating .

 

[GVF]

Sure, OK I’ll just cite a few

Repeal and replace Obamacare. Nope.

Decrease prescription drug costs. Nope

Build a wall. Nope

Make Mexico pay for that wall. Nope

Make America Great Again. Nope

Restore American Prestige. Hell No. all major foreign leaders think he’s @&$;$& moron

Take down little Rocket Man. Nope. Rocket Man owns Trump

Be transparent. Hell no

How's the economy, jobs, and taxes...dolt.

 

[luthervol]

Actions and reactions ... this didn’t start with Trump and it’s a large reason congress has such a low approval rating .

Of course it didn't start with Trump. Trumpism is the statement that instead of trying to make an imperfect system better, those imperfections will be used as an excuse to make it far worse.

 

[GVF]

LOL....It's no game. The fact that you think it is telling.
Process the fact that you can't even bring yourself to say that it was stupid and wrong for him to continually and knowingly lie to the American public.
That's a pretty good synopsis of how and why we got to this point.

Schiff? Pelosi? Obama? Clinton? (both) Gore ? (The Climate thing, and beating Bush) Bush? Biden? Warren? Buttmebutt? That little climate girl? You gotta be more specific.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Excuse and normalize.....you can't even condemn Trump when he is obviously deserving. You sold out your credibility long ago and continue to do so, along with most all of the trumpers.
Carry on, back at you.

I don’t believe he is deserving condemnation for not releasing his tax returns. That’s your screech not mine.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[GVF]

Of course it didn't start with Trump. Trumpism is the statement that instead of trying to make an imperfect system better, those imperfections will be used as an excuse to make it far worse.

I'm disappointed in you Luth. I thought you would know more about politics than your anti-Trump rants. The fact you actually believe 3 years of Trump created all this, verses 20-40 years of the majority of these politicians being in DC. The president has influence on public opinion and that's about it. Look at the destruction Obama created in 8 years. It can be done, and Trump will leave his own marks. They won't be as bad as Obamas, but he will leave them. But, politically, all these lifers are toting the baggage.

 

[luthervol]

I don’t believe he is deserving condemnation for not releasing his tax returns. That’s your screech not mine.

The condemnation (which you are evidently unwilling to make) lies in his blatant and continued lies to the American public that he would release his tax returns. Of course you know that.
Are you at least a little embarrassed that you've boxed yourself into a position where you can't even acknowledge that he was wrong to lie?
Rhetorical......I know you can't answer.
Carry on. (such a condescending and unnecessary addition to a post)

 

[luthervol]

I'm disappointed in you Luth. I thought you would know more about politics than your anti-Trump rants. The fact you actually believe 3 years of Trump created all this, verses 20-40 years of the majority of these politicians being in DC. The president has influence on public opinion and that's about it. Look at the destruction Obama created in 8 years. It can be done, and Trump will leave his own marks. They won't be as bad as Obamas, but he will leave them. But, politically, all these lifers are toting the baggage.

When did I ever say 3 years of trump created all of this?
I've consistently said it knowingly, intentionally, and predictably made it far worse.

 

[GVF]

Sure, OK I’ll just cite a few

Repeal and replace Obamacare. Nope.

Decrease prescription drug costs. Nope

Build a wall. Nope

Make Mexico pay for that wall. Nope

Make America Great Again. Nope

Restore American Prestige. Hell No. all major foreign leaders think he’s @&$;$& moron

Take down little Rocket Man. Nope. Rocket Man owns Trump

Be transparent. Hell no

Funny how all ya'll think he is supposed to cash in every single campaign promise in less than 3 years. He's made good on quite a few. You just chose to list the ones on the TBD list. Also funny how you want to pretend campaign promises mean anything. Just like any other politician, he will not clear off his promise list. The majority of those promises have to make it thru a partisan government. Obama made it 8 years and not sure he ever accomplished anything positive for the country. Except forcing working Americans to get fined for not buying insurance they give free to illegals. And letting Hils get Ambassadors killed. And giving guns to the Cartels so they can kill US Agents.

Restore American Prestige? I'm glad to see you admit that ones before him destroyed American Prestige abroad, and you were relying on Trump to fix that. Moron? Of course he is. He doesn't kiss their a** like everyone else did, and he sure as h*** doesn't bow to any of them, like his predecessor. They don't like him cause he don't hand out BJ's.

 

[GVF]

When did I ever say 3 years of trump created all of this?
I've consistently said it knowingly, intentionally, and predictably made it far worse.

That's the thing about making improvements. It always gets worse before it gets better. He had a lot to fix that those before him have screwed up, and the entire Liberal base will blame him for. Case in point....you.

 

[NorthDallas40]

The condemnation (which you are evidently unwilling to make) lies in his blatant and continued lies to the American public that he would release his tax returns. Of course you know that.
Are you at least a little embarrassed that you've boxed yourself into a position where you can't even acknowledge that he was wrong to lie?
Rhetorical......I know you can't answer.
Carry on. (such a condescending and unnecessary addition to a post)

 

[Hunerwadel]

Always the play on words. No substance. Blah blah. Total waste of time. If you can’t control every nuance of a conversation you can’t have one. Fluid freedom of speech is beyond your comprehension. North Dallas too. It’s the right wing (and Russian bot) way. All the others try too but are more amateurish than you two. You’ve been practicing a long time but you’re still not good at it. But you feel good about your gibberish anyway. Good for you we’re all happy for you

70% of Americans think Trump abused his power!!!!!

55% continue to think he should be impeached and 45% think he should be removed

100% of Russian Bots think he should not be impeached

It seems 100% of right wingers on this forum think there is no basis for impeachment

Most think this is only about Dems being pi$$ed off because Trump won the election

Not true at all for me - Trump won fair and square

But Trump shoots himself in the foot just about daily; and, now lies on average 22 times a day

Making his list of accomplishments suspect. See what the fact checkers say about it

There may not have been a Russian investigation had doomasses Eric and Jr contained themselves and not bragged (like Daddy) about Russian money pouring in to their business

The at long last IG report found Trump campaign not “spied on” by FBI, and,

Found, while FBI agent fudged some paperwork the Carter Page FISA warrant would have been correctly issued anyway

If you’re acting like you’ve got something nefarious going on with an enemy you have to expect, and be thankful, for our Intelligence Agencies fling their jobs

Fast fact. Carter , Papalopolous, Flynn, Manafort, Roger Stone and others found guilty.

Birds of a feather? Trump goes back to 1986 with Manafort and Stone.

Murller report cites insufficient evidence regarding Russian conspiracy and 10 counts of Trump Engaging I’d OOJ

Barr flat out lies and delays issuance for weeks to let the lies be absorbed - - nothing to see here

Impeachment Inquiry should have been opened with issuance of Mueller report. Oversight required it

The President, Congress, Courts, intelligence agencies, all make decisions, of necessity at times, based on informed judgement

Informed judgment says Trump is guilty as hell on all charges ever alleged

Don't come on here spouting the truth. It confuses the poor dumb bastards.

 

[Sandman 423]

The condemnation (which you are evidently unwilling to make) lies in his blatant and continued lies to the American public that he would release his tax returns. Of course you know that.
Are you at least a little embarrassed that you've boxed yourself into a position where you can't even acknowledge that he was wrong to lie?
Rhetorical......I know you can't answer.
Carry on. (such a condescending and unnecessary addition to a post)

What will you say if his tax returns (which will eventually come out) show no connections to Russia or any illegal stuff? We all know that they should show that he pays as little as possible. He probably takes advantage of every loophole that there is and to be honest I would have serious concerns if he didn't, wouldn't you?

 

[luthervol]

What will you say if his tax returns (which will eventually come out) show no connections to Russia or any illegal stuff? We all know that they should show that he pays as little as possible. He probably takes advantage of every loophole that there is and to be honest I would have serious concerns if he didn't, wouldn't you?

I will say, "about damn time, why didn't you follow through with your promise sooner?"

 

[Septic]

How's the economy, jobs, and taxes...dolt.

Thanks Obama.

 

[BigOrangeD]

 

[Sandman 423]

I will say, "about damn time, why didn't you follow through with your promise sooner so that I wouldn't look like such a tool on a daily basis?"

FYP so that you look a tad humbled