The Impeachment Thread

#24,478
#24,478
Mick said:
Report | Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

Once President Trump placed security assistance on hold in July, “it was inevitable that it was eventually going to come out.” On July 25, DOD officials learned that diplomats at the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington had made multiple overtures to DOD and the State Department “asking about security assistance.” Separately, two different contacts at the Ukrainian Embassy approached Ambassador Volker’s special advisor, Catherine Croft, to ask her in confidence about the hold. Ms. Croft was surprised at the effectiveness of their “diplomatic tradecraft,” noting that they “found out very early on” that the United States was withholding critical military aid to Ukraine. By mid-August, before the freeze on aid became public, Lt. Col. Vindman had also received inquiries from an official at the Ukrainian Embassy.
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But I thought the Ukrainians didn't even know the assistance was being withheld.
 
#24,479
#24,479
President Trump cancelled his planned trip to Warsaw for a World War II commemoration event, where he was scheduled to meet with President Zelensky. Vice President Pence traveled in his place. Ambassador Sondland also traveled to Warsaw and, at a pre-briefing discussion with the Vice President before he met President Zelensky, Ambassador Sondland raised the issue of the hold on security assistance. He told Vice President Pence that he was concerned that the security assistance “had become tied to the issue of investigations” and that “everything is being held up until these statements get made.” Vice President Pence nodded in response, apparently expressing neither surprise nor dismay at the linkage between the two.
 
#24,480
#24,480
Mick said:
President Trump cancelled his planned trip to Warsaw for a World War II commemoration event, where he was scheduled to meet with President Zelensky. Vice President Pence traveled in his place. Ambassador Sondland also traveled to Warsaw and, at a pre-briefing discussion with the Vice President before he met President Zelensky, Ambassador Sondland raised the issue of the hold on security assistance. He told Vice President Pence that he was concerned that the security assistance “had become tied to the issue of investigations” and that “everything is being held up until these statements get made.” Vice President Pence nodded in response, apparently expressing neither surprise nor dismay at the linkage between the two.
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That almost sounds like quid pro quo......or stated another way, bribery.
 
#24,482
#24,482
NurseGoodVol said:
You stated someone at Harvard gave it the nod to explain diagnosing a patient without interviewing.
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Apparently there are “exceptional” exceptions to the universally understood protocol of not rendering an opinion. That was their rational. It was a prominent Yale shrink, Dr. Li iirc
 
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#24,492
luthervol said:
I'm a local now. My wife went there and my oldest daughter just graduated from there, and my second daughter is a senior there.
I was in Cookeville from 78-84.
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Trading Places. Sounds like a good movie. Dad grew up in Jackson County. Family farm/land since 1823. (Cummins Falls). Me and my brother live here now. Did MBA at TTU in 89. Grew up in Griffin. Also put in 16 years in Hartwell. Wife's home. Lot of friends back when over GACS way around Tucker, Stone Mountain. Dad was TTU, UT, UGA alum. Retired in Ag from UGA at the Experiment Station in Griffin. GT great school obviously. Just don't give a lot to cheer for except for the most loyal of fans.
 
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#24,494
luthervol said:
Yea, I had two there at the same time for 3 years.
My younger one graduates in May.
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Excellent in one respect. Feel for ya in another. Mom and Dad had 3 of us in private college at same time for a year I think. They paid that bill for a minute or two.
 
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