The Hypocrisy of a Kiffin Hire

[FleeceItOut]

Kiffin is the best available coach.

There is nothing hypocritical about hiring a coach that gives you the best chance to win.

 

[VolAmerican]

If we are going to consider Kiffin, I think we have to consider Tee Martin. Martin led USC in 2016 to rankings of 20th in Total Offense at 477 yds/game, 11th in 3rd down conversions, 15th in first downs, 25th in pass offense. USC had 11 games of 400 yds or more and 7 of 500+ yds. Also was named Pac-12 recruiter of the year.

 

[JVol76]

I agree that the long-tenured coaches are a thing of the past but winning as an assistant with Saban doesn't make you a winning HC. Just ask Dooley.

There are plenty of other coaches who could be hired that haven't proven over and over again that they lack integrity to the degree of Kiffin. The guy isn't ready for the responsibility.

My original point was why in the hell would anyone cheer Kiffin doing to Florida Atlantic what we were all so upset about him doing to us?

You act like FAU expects Kiffin to be there for the rest of his coaching career. One year or two they know that if successful, and he has been, Kiffin will leave for a better opportunity. Just come out and say you don't want Kiffin and stop with trying to use every excuse in the book as to why he shouldn't be hired. In saying that I don't think Kiffin gets a sniff at the job because ineptness runs rampant in Knoxville.

 

[Bigorangejumpsuit]

Flip the way all these Coach's contracts are made these days. Return to the old-fashioned way - you actually earn it. So let's say someone like Kiffin was offered. Offer 3 mil for the first year - no expectations. Year 2 - 3 mil for a 6-6 record. If not achieved you pay back 25%. If achieved - year 3 - 4 mil for a 7-5 and a bowl game. If not achieved pay back 25%. If achieved year 4 - 5 mil for 8-4 record and bowl game win. Same as other years on achievement. Year 5 - 6 mil for 9-3 and bowl win. All years after at 6 mil for 9-3 with incentives up to 10 mil for winning a NC. Buyout if another Team wants to poach is 21 mil which never changes. Join the real world. Earn It. Oh and we can fire you if you don't do your job without compensation.

 

[Matt2496]

I do not want Lane Kiffin. Seriously, after the moral stance we took Sunday, how the hell can we hire someone who cheated on his wife and has many ethical issues.

Seriously Norvell>Kiffin

 

[revjayp]

The hypocrisy is calling out Lane Kiffin while the most corrupt man in TN is our biggest booster. I’m sick of the uppityness. Lane is the only canidate who we’d actually have leverage with and wouldn’t have to give up control. He’s not my first choice by a long shot but he was a jerk and immature and shouldn’t have been hired th first time. He’s not the worst option now.

 

[n_huffhines]

Kiffin was pretty young and still had some growing up to do. I can get over it. If he leaves after 3 good years, well at least we had 3 good years. He is easily the most proven commodity that we have a shot at, IMO. I can tell you Florida and Georgia don't want us to hire Kiffin.

I'd rather win than avoid the appearance of hypocrisy.

 

[GVF]

You act like FAU expects Kiffin to be there for the rest of his coaching career. One year or two they know that if successful, and he has been, Kiffin will leave for a better opportunity. Just come out and say you don't want Kiffin and stop with trying to use every excuse in the book as to why he shouldn't be hired. In saying that I don't think Kiffin gets a sniff at the job because ineptness runs rampant in Knoxville.

I'll vote. No Kiffin. Simple.

 

[djohnnyg]

The Kiffin talk is just a waste of time. Currie isn't interested so why even talk about him? Let's talk about realistic options.

 

[TennTom]

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”


~George W Bush

 

[GVF]

The hypocrisy is calling out Lane Kiffin wile the most corrupt man in TN is our biggest booster. I’m sick of the uppityness. Lane is the only canidate who we’d actually have leverage with and wouldn’t have to give up control. He’s not my first choice by a long shot but he was a jerk and immature and shouldn’t have been hired th first time. He’s not the worst option now.

Must be the same hypocrisy used to revolt against Schiano, while wanting LK, and taking Haslam money he earned defrauding people. Whom PM is in bed with.

 

[JVol76]

I'll vote. No Kiffin. Simple.

I'll make it even simpler for you, you don't have a vote

 

[led0321]

Kiffin would be a homerun hire, and I felt that way long before this past weekend's disaster. He's the best candidate out there right now WHO WOULD ACTUALLY COME anywhere near this program.

Another SEC team will pick him up sooner or later, needs to be us now.

Preach.

 

[Unimane]

Kiffin is the only real coach out there that other SEC schools fear, but we won't hire him because we don't care about that stuff anymore. We've got an admin who's bought all the negative the national media types have said regarding UT being an average job, fan expectations, etc.

 

[Arclight]

"WHO WOULD ACTUALLY COME anywhere near this program."

Correct

 

[revjayp]

Must be the same hypocrisy used to revolt against Schiano, while wanting LK, and taking Haslam money he earned defrauding people. Whom PM is in bed with.

Schiano and Kiffin are 2 different people and situations. But I agree, it all sucks and it’s all bad. Lane left us for a “better” job in his mind. He was a punk. But Schiano has a history of being a bully, control freak and easily offended. Like Butch.

 

[mikepotts]

I do not want Lane Kiffin. Seriously, after the moral stance we took Sunday, how the hell can we hire someone who cheated on his wife and has many ethical issues.

Seriously Norvell>Kiffin

I "didnt take a moral stance", i took the "hes not an SEC winning coach" stance...

why are all TN fans being painted with the same brush. he might have known something was going on at PSU, he might not have. Jerry is a dirtbag sleeze, but i (like many others) didnt want Schiano for a different reason.

 

[basspond]

In 2009, Tennessee was the "smaller program" to USC. Just like us, the FAU players and fans don't think of their team as being "small". They don't want to be disrespected and crippled any more than we did.

I agree that Kiffin can coach so what happens when that success happens in year 2 of his UT contract? Do you think a guy like Kiffin stays? Do you think Tennessee won't still be a "smaller program" to some other NCAA or NFL team? And when he DOES go (and he will) do you think he leaves things in good shape around Knoxville?

Contract! He pays if he leaves or the next team that hires him does. And pays dearly.

 

[JMSqb11]

At the end of the day, there are only two coaches that truly want to be here. Both have TN ties. Literally, they have neckties with our color Orange.

Offer Lane. If he says no, then go all in on Tee. If you can get both, great.

 

[HubbaBubba]

Look, I want this to end as much as any of us. The garbage that I've been reading about TN is neither fair nor accurate and the only way to change the narrative is to hire someone who is ready to get to work on leading the team.

However, all of this "hire Kiffin" talk is ridiculous. The only Kiffin worth chasing was Layla (sorry Monte). If Kiffin were to abandon another team for a bigger splash after only one year, what does that say about him? What would it say about UT?

The guy's tenure here was marred with controversy and impropriety and it is a sign of desperation to think that he should return, forgiven, to a program that he had a hand in throwing into decline.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but Kiffin has a stink of immature entitlement on him that follows him wherever he goes. Were here to opportunistically bail on a contract AGAIN after only a year then it is evident that he has not grown up at all.

Let's hire an adult this time who understands that this job still means something to a great deal of us and will respect what took a long time to build.

I agree with this.

 

[JVol76]

It boils down to this, hire Kiffin who has won, can recruit and would take the job or give it to another 3rd rate coach ala Dooley and let's do this again in 4 or 5 years. Kiffin isn't my first choice but he's the best of what's out there. He wants the job, give it to him.

 

[feathersax]

Look, I want this to end as much as any of us. The garbage that I've been reading about TN is neither fair nor accurate and the only way to change the narrative is to hire someone who is ready to get to work on leading the team.

However, all of this "hire Kiffin" talk is ridiculous. The only Kiffin worth chasing was Layla (sorry Monte). If Kiffin were to abandon another team for a bigger splash after only one year, what does that say about him? What would it say about UT?

The guy's tenure here was marred with controversy and impropriety and it is a sign of desperation to think that he should return, forgiven, to a program that he had a hand in throwing into decline.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but Kiffin has a stink of immature entitlement on him that follows him wherever he goes. Were here to opportunistically bail on a contract AGAIN after only a year then it is evident that he has not grown up at all.

Let's hire an adult this time who understands that this job still means something to a great deal of us and will respect what took a long time to build.

THIS! :rock:

 

[GRN1926]

Look, I want this to end as much as any of us. The garbage that I've been reading about TN is neither fair nor accurate and the only way to change the narrative is to hire someone who is ready to get to work on leading the team.

However, all of this "hire Kiffin" talk is ridiculous. The only Kiffin worth chasing was Layla (sorry Monte). If Kiffin were to abandon another team for a bigger splash after only one year, what does that say about him? What would it say about UT?

The guy's tenure here was marred with controversy and impropriety and it is a sign of desperation to think that he should return, forgiven, to a program that he had a hand in throwing into decline.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but Kiffin has a stink of immature entitlement on him that follows him wherever he goes. Were here to opportunistically bail on a contract AGAIN after only a year then it is evident that he has not grown up at all.

Let's hire an adult this time who understands that this job still means something to a great deal of us and will respect what took a long time to build.

This guy likes participation trophies. You are a loser. I guess we should just go get Dooley or Butch Jones then, right?

 

[carpbc]

besides that, were not asking him to leave in the middle of the might like he did to us... do it the right way, help FAU get things going whatever direction they desire (if they want help) and so on.

Thing people forget is, FAU put in a relatively low buyout ($2,850,000) for Kiffin for a reason - they wanted him to come as head coach, they expect him to leave for a larger program pretty soon, so they made it easy for that to happen. The smart thing for Currie to do is to talk to Kiffin to feel out his interest in coming back to UT. Let that "leak" and see how or fan base reacts. If favorable - make an offer. If unfavorable - move on. That's not rocket science, but it just might get the job done and quiet some of the unrest.

 

[Fortworth volsfan]

I'm not just 100% on Kiffin, but comparing leaving UT to leaving FAU is crazy. Leaving a smaller program for a better one in a better conference is the sensible choice, not a slight to FAU or a knock on his character. It's just common sense

Its about integrity and honoring your word if we hire him all i can say is we knew he was a snake when we picked him up.