The good, the bad, and the uuuuuugly

[OrangeByBirth]

From game 1:

The Good...
I was not embarrassed by the coach.
The drive in Q2 offered promise.
QB play was adequate.
WRs showed promise.
There were more plays than bubble R, bubble L, sweep, punt if no turnover.

The Bad...
For the most part, the OL.
RBs could not get momentum.
No DL pressure.

The Uuuuuugly...
DBs were absent.
A cheater (Grier) is being touted for Heisman while Pete Rose can't make the HOF.
Hopes of the masses were shut down.
UT would not make the FCS playoff field today.
Alabama is flooded with drool at the thought of playing UT.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

OBB, I'd move RBs as a position group up to The Good. I think Chandler was doing well before he got his bell rung, and Jordan was even better. I did see a significant drop in ability after those two, though. Still, more good than bad in the position group.

Absolutely agree that our coaching staff have their work cut out for them with the OLine and DBs. But perhaps even more than that, with the confidence and discipline of the team in general. They can win; they just don't yet trust themselves to be able to. Hoping that part will come with steady coaching.

Good morning!

 

[TennesseeTarheel]

I think that, if not for some uncalled holding, we would have had a couple more sacks. The missed targeting call was amazing. It wouldn't have changed an L into a W, though. Not even close.

 

[Volinnooga]

I thought JG was far better than "adequate".

 

[photovol]

OBB, I'd move RBs as a position group up to The Good. I think Chandler was excellent before he got his bell rung, and Jordan was maybe even better. I did see a significant drop in ability after those two, though. Still, more good than bad in the position group.

Absolutely agree that our coaching staff have their work cut out for them with the OLine and DBs. But perhaps even more than that, with the confidence and discipline of the team in general. They can win; they just don't yet trust themselves to be able to. Hoping that part will come with steady coaching.

Good morning!

Drinking the orange Kool aid early, I see

 

[KBVol]

From game 1:

The Good...
I was not embarrassed by the coach.
The drive in Q2 offered promise.
QB play was adequate.
WRs showed promise.
There were more plays than bubble R, bubble L, sweep, punt if no turnover.

The Bad...
For the most part, the OL.
RBs could not get momentum.
No DL pressure.

The Uuuuuugly...
DBs were absent.
A cheater (Grier) is being touted for Heisman while Pete Rose can't make the HOF.
Hopes of the masses were shut down.
UT would not make the FCS playoff field today.
Alabama is flooded with drool at the thought of playing UT.

Move “DL couldn’t get pressure” from bad to ugly and make it the first, most important bullet point. It’s the primary reason the young DBs struggled so much.

Disagree with your RB comment....we had a 120 rusher in Jordan who averaged 6 yards per carry and scored a TD....that’s momentum.

Also think you undersold JG’s performance. He was more than adequate, he was very good despite getting his brains beat out early on...we can win with him. He’s damn near the only one we can win with, but we can win with him.

And wth with the cheater/Pete Rose reference? Doesn’t belong here.

 

[gunner]

I thought JG was far better than "adequate".

I would have like for them to throw it deeper down the field but with the way the offensive line was blacking most of the game, he didn’t really have the time. When he knows where he’s going with the football and it’s open, he looks pretty good. His worst mistake was the high pass on the screen play that couldn’t kept a drive alive on third down.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I think that, if not for some uncalled holding, we would have had a couple more sacks.

Yeah, Tarheel, I saw above-normal amounts of holding in the game. At first, primarily by their OL. But then, as our coaches and players realized the refs were calling it loose, they started using hands 'creatively' as well.

This ref crew just didn't want to call that penalty. So both sides took advantage (them first, I agree).

 

[LordBolton]

I think that, if not for some uncalled holding, we would have had a couple more sacks. The missed targeting call was amazing. It wouldn't have changed an L into a W, though. Not even close.

You're forgetting the NCAA changed the rule. When protecting a Heisman candidate, you're allowed to cheat.

 

[gunner]

Yeah, Tarheel, I saw above-normal amounts of holding in the game. At first, primarily by their OL. But then, as our coaches and players realized the refs were calling it loose, they started using hands 'creatively' as well.

This ref crew just didn't want to call that penalty. So both sides took advantage (them first, I agree).

I didn’t like the pass interference call away from the ball when two of UVW's were all over Palmer and he pushes them off of him one of them falls down and they call offensive PI when it clearly had no bearing on the ball or the play.

I like the NFL rule much better regarding bump and run coverage.

 

[Remy]

From game 1:

The Good...
I was not embarrassed by the coach.
The drive in Q2 offered promise.
QB play was adequate.
WRs showed promise.
There were more plays than bubble R, bubble L, sweep, punt if no turnover.

The Bad...
For the most part, the OL.
RBs could not get momentum.
No DL pressure.

The Uuuuuugly...
DBs were absent.
A cheater (Grier) is being touted for Heisman while Pete Rose can't make the HOF.
Hopes of the masses were shut down.
UT would not make the FCS playoff field today.
Alabama is flooded with drool at the thought of playing UT.

You know our DL is not playing well when you put a walkon out there and there's no dropoff from previous poor performance. The walkon DL actually recovered a fumble by the way. I am VERY disappointed in Taylor, Kongbo, Tuttle, Johnson, Philipps, Bituli, Sapp this morning.

 

[Bleed-Orange]

I thought JG was far better than "adequate".

I will have to watch again but I just didnt see what everyone else did with JG. Yes, the line was awful. Yes, he did make some good throws on hitch routes. However, I dont recall him hitting a running receiver in stride with timing. I do recall a bunch of throws rifled into tight spots giving the receivers little opportunity.

 

[TAF]

Well...there was this...

 

[gunner]

I will have to watch again but I just didnt see what everyone else did with JG. Yes, the line was awful. Yes, he did make some good throws on hitch routes. However, I dont recall him hitting a running receiver in stride with timing. I do recall a bunch of throws rifled into tight spots giving the receivers little opportunity.

Yes, did on a timing route across the middle of the field Gary Danielson was bragging about him throwing the ball to a spot over the middle linebacker and the WR catching it. Clearly, he has a way to go but he has improved.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I thought JG was far better than "adequate".

He is serviceable. I'd move him to pretty good if he could escape some pressure and pick up some yards with his legs. Hell, Peyton Manning has more rushing yards at UT than JG has...

 

[knoxvol16]

Overall, I'd give JG a A- for his play. He's a tough young man, and he didn't waiver behind a position group that has been the weakest link in the offense for several years now. However, when under duress, he's still staring down his targeted receiver.

Generally, the game went down a lot like I expected. It just is what it is, and it's going to take a year or two before we start seeing the kind of team that can lay hurt on their opponent on any given Saturday.

 

[gunner]

He is serviceable. I'd move him to pretty good if he could escape some pressure and pick up some yards with his legs. Hell, Peyton Manning has more rushing yards at UT than JG has...

Ha ha. Manning rarely got touched. He had lines that could consistently block for him. JG hasn't had that yet.

 

[knoxvol16]

You know our DL is not playing well when you put a walkon out there and there's no dropoff from previous poor performance. The walkon DL actually recovered a fumble by the way. I am VERY disappointed in Taylor, Kongbo, Tuttle, Johnson, Philipps, Bituli, Sapp this morning.

I don't disagree, but remember that most of those guys didn't really show any dominance under a Bob Shoop defense either.

 

[Vol Kilmer]

"Flooded with Drool" is the name of my next album.

 

[awaitingawin]

Move “DL couldn’t get pressure” from bad to ugly and make it the first, most important bullet point. It’s the primary reason the young DBs struggled so much.

Disagree with your RB comment....we had a 120 rusher in Jordan who averaged 6 yards per carry and scored a TD....that’s momentum.

Also think you undersold JG’s performance. He was more than adequate, he was very good despite getting his brains beat out early on...we can win with him. He’s damn near the only one we can win with, but we can win with him.

And wth with the cheater/Pete Rose reference? Doesn’t belong here.

U nailed it

 

[Sudden Impact]

From game 1:

The Good...
I was not embarrassed by the coach.
The drive in Q2 offered promise.
QB play was adequate.
WRs showed promise.
There were more plays than bubble R, bubble L, sweep, punt if no turnover.

The Bad...
For the most part, the OL.
RBs could not get momentum.
No DL pressure.

The Uuuuuugly...
DBs were absent.
A cheater (Grier) is being touted for Heisman while Pete Rose can't make the HOF.
Hopes of the masses were shut down.
UT would not make the FCS playoff field today.
Alabama is flooded with drool at the thought of playing UT.

The drive in Q2 offered promise.

OL. Just not sure what has continued to happen since Fulmer left. Steady downhill movement.
DL. Just not dominant on the line.
Both lines play soft and have not seen nothing but a drop off since Fulmer/Chavez left.

A cheater (Grier) is being touted for Heisman while Pete Rose can't make the HOF. --- Very True. Problem is that the voters will not hold him accountable for it. Doping in any other sport would possibility warrant a lifetime ban. He maybe worthy and may have the numbers but he should never win the trophy.

UT would not make the FCS playoff field today. This is a little extreme and pre-judgmental. Last years team I agree. This years way to early to tell.

So the ugly amounts to the last 10 years of what we have experienced since CPF left or ran off ---- LOS, the trenches, Fix these areas and the turn around will began....The AD and CJP know this and you can't fix it in one recruiting cycle and one wipe of a wand.

 

[Shakinthefat]

Ugly...1st and goal on the 1 and we could not score on 3 plays, lost yards. If we can’t hand the ball off to a TB who follows a FB to the hole created by Trey Smith and get 1 stinking yard...that’s butt ugly.

 

[ALLVOL1997]

From game 1:

The Good...
I was not embarrassed by the coach.
The drive in Q2 offered promise.
QB play was adequate.
WRs showed promise.
There were more plays than bubble R, bubble L, sweep, punt if no turnover.

The Bad...
For the most part, the OL.
RBs could not get momentum.
No DL pressure.

The Uuuuuugly...
DBs were absent.
A cheater (Grier) is being touted for Heisman while Pete Rose can't make the HOF.
Hopes of the masses were shut down.
UT would not make the FCS playoff field today.
Alabama is flooded with drool at the thought of playing UT.

The good. Is that we got out of there without any major injuries. That has to be worth something right?

 

[TitanicVolz]

Those refs we're Fu*kn horrendous don't care how u cut it.Watched a hit on a defensless players smack dab in front of a ref.Watched JG get yanked down hard by horsecollar,ref rite there did nothing.Then their was numerous holds,no calls which made have lead to a sack or two.Each time Grier got out the pocket,I watched WV oline almost rip their jerseys off no call.No making excuses just pointing out sum obvious stuff but still frustrating.Those calls can change games,or in this case sumone could have gotten hurt.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Those refs we're Fu*kn horrendous don't care how u cut it.Watched a hit on a defensless players smack dab in front of a ref.Watched JG get yanked down hard by horsecollar,ref rite there did nothing.Then their was numerous holds,no calls which made have lead to a sack or two.Each time Grier got out the pocket,I watched WV oline almost rip their jerseys off no call.No making excuses just pointing out sum obvious stuff but still frustrating.Those calls can change games,or in this case sumone could have gotten hurt.

In no way would it have affected the outcome, but I agree 100% on the missed targeting, horse-collar, and holding calls. I really couldn't believe they didn't go to a review on the first.