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This year, Cherokee purple, San Marzano, big beef, and a cherry tomato are starting from seeds. Also, red bell, gypsy, giant Marconi, and poblano peppers from seed. Not sure what will complete the makeup of my garden bed - basil, marigolds, sunflowers? Store bought plants?

I will try growing haricot vertes in a large planter that gets full morning sun and dappled sunlight through the heat of the day.
 
Thinking about starting a 4x8 raised planter box or 2 this year. Any websites or anything you’d recommend for beginners?

Veggies to plant together? Easier ones to grow in east tn? Ones to avoid?
I'm not much into raised bed gardening myself. Can get expensive. Thought about doing some 12" high ones before but not the tall ones. If you want the look, but the goodness of direct to soil garden, just build up your soil a little if it needs conditioning. Trim it out with some short boards or something for hte look. Mulch it good. Leaves, straw, clean wood chip mulch. Anything that will decompose into the soil and just re-top each year. Less watering and weeding.

Agree on starting off with maters and peppers. If you like squash, get some resilient yellow and zuchini.

Plant basil and marigold with your tomatoes. Controls insects. Look up companion planting. Most of us in this thread like heirloom type tomatoes, but throwing in a dependable Better Boy will ensure you have some success because heirlooms can either over flow the counters with fruit, or make you scratch your head. But, the first bite is worth it. Try to find a local to get your plants from. I always do a couple reds each of atleast two varieties. Cherokee Purple. And and Orange/Yellow. And a cherry of some sort. I planted some Goliath red last year. Over 8' tall and a grand red for flavor. So make sure you read the growth habit of what you pick. Better Boys can be grown in a cage. Most heirlooms will need a trellis type suspension cause they get tall.

Most important if this is first time is start small so you will come back for year 2. See what you like and can handle, and expand a little the next year. We highly recommend some kind of mulching and weed suppression. An unptotected garden uses more water, and the weeding can end many a gardening adventure. And if you just want to grow for fresh eating or work towards putting veggies up for the winter. Canning and such. We have one gardener in here whose entire veggie patch is the foundation beds around the house and grows great gardens. You are limited only by your creativity
 
This year, Cherokee purple, San Marzano, big beef, and a cherry tomato are starting from seeds. Also, red bell, gypsy, giant Marconi, and poblano peppers from seed. Not sure what will complete the makeup of my garden bed - basil, marigolds, sunflowers? Store bought plants?

I will try growing haricot vertes in a large planter that gets full morning sun and dappled sunlight through the heat of the day.
Really got to get my seeds going in the next week. I did Goliath last year for my main red. They were great. Very tall too. Hence hte name.

This year gonna go back to a better boy for my safety net. Then Missouri Pink Love Apple, Cherokee Purple, Dr. Wyche's Yellow. Might throw in another or a cherry. Thinking about skipping the orange peach this year. Fantastic mater though.

For peppers probably a mad hatter or two, a bell, and my son will pick out some hots.

Will add squash, okra, green beans, cukes, and some melons. Prob skip the corn. I can never get it to grow. And switching off to some skinny french style bush green bean this year for a change. Give the pole bean a break.

This will be my 3rd season on alot of my berries, and grapes and figs, so hoping to finaly get some harvest going. My berry bushes just seem small though still. Prob need to replace my peach though. in about a month. It just never came back from that buck attack last year. Lot of black on the trunk. Prob took disease after he carved it up with his antlers.
 
Got some seeds in the trays now.

Missouri Pink Love Apple
Orange Hat
Cherokee Purple
Dr. Wyche's Yellow
Gonna just go pick up a couple Better Boys for insurance. Or Goliath.
Mad Hatter Sweet Pepper
Bull Nose Bell Pepper
Some kind of crossed Cayenne. Kept seeds from plant bought at nursery last year.
Some kind of small green Japanese eggplant
And a dwarf green for my neice's patio

i think that's all for now. Got some more to do for later.
 
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Yes, I’m old, but I have grandchildren.

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Up till this past saturday I had 3 jobs myself. But, I got time for my Garden Thread buddies. And she's the queen of gardening.
 
Left my part time gig at the bowlng center after 8-1/2 years. So, first Saturday off in all that time for reasons other than occasional travel yielded a little satisfaction.

Used the gift card they gave me to go purchase a nicely developed Contender Peach Tree to replace the one the buck tore up rubbing the previous fall before I got the trunk protectors back on. Tried to restore it over the past year, but it developed that black bark and all. So, got that in the ground ahead of all this rain, so it should hopefully adjust easily with little stress. Loaded with buds. Still need to water the ball a few times a week for a while even with the rain. Chose a slightly smaller better developed tree over a larger tree with less form and branch development. Did some immediate light topping to encourage growth fillout. Got both apples pruned up good as well. Funny side bar on the apples. Back around 2015-2016, put two apples in. By 2017-2018, one died and the other kept growing. Knocked the dead one over with mower and got it up. Over course of summer, decided the other one wasn't gonna do anything w/o a pollinator, so tried to run it over and it survived and spent next several years growing at a 45. In 2024 decided since it was so tough and was a chore to mow around, we hooked a rope to it, latched it to the hitch on the truck and pulled it up straight. Beat the ground around it with a sledge to try and force dirt down around disturbed roots. Drove a steel T post next to it and tied it off, and it remains tied off as long as needed to not lay back over. In two years the top has recovered to erect growth. A pllinator was added two years ago when I straightened it back up. So, now I have a tough as nails Gala and a young Liberty.

Afterwards, my attempt at getting a strawberry patch going last year by the greenhouse needed attantion. So I dressed half the bed with composted garden soil, moved the everbearer strawberries in place over and prepped the other side to receive a batch of Sea Scape Everbearer that I hope to pick up at lunch today. That'll give me half a bed of Eversweets and half a bed of Sea Scape Everbearers. Seems half my bed of everbearers from last year disappeared. I didn't have them marked, and can't recall what everbearer I bought to fill in with the Eversweets last year, so I am assuming the survivors are Eversweets, but my gut tells me they may be the other. THe first year I started them two years ago was in a run of old tires. They didn't do well. Then last spring I moved them next to the green house and likely planted those on the left side of hte bed and bought others to fill in. The survivors I think came from Those bins at Lowe's, maybe Walmart but can't remember the variety and they went in on hte right half, and those are the ones I moved over and replanted. But, local garden center only has Sea Scape Everbearers and cheaper than Gurney's and from everything I've read is an excellent everbearer.

Though my blueberry plants are still "small" (close to mid-thigh) they are loaded with buds right now. Prime Ark blackberry is fixing to take off. Triple Crown blackberry not broke ground yet. Heritage Raspberries are breaking ground. Might still be some Caroline Raspberry mixed in. Apples and figs yet to begin showing life. If you are considering black berries, I highly recommend you find and try Prime Ark Ponca. Large, incredibly sweet berries. Grows more like a central trunk bush. Not a brambler. Fast growth. I might have errantly over pruned it last year and killed its impending production. I'm still learning how to prune such a plant as bramblers like the Triple Crown can just be clipped to the ground each fall if you choose. I leave the Prime Ark bushed out, but learning to prune from there forward is not diffcult, but still need to perfect how and what to prune so as not to rob it of its production.

One tomato has already busted though in the seed tray after only a little over a week, and is about a inch tall.
 
going to work on my garden this week in Atlanta GA.

tomatoes are a must, and do well. but I won't be doing cherry tomatoes again, they did too well and tried to take over the whole garden last year. they produced a ton, but were vining out ten plus feet, and choked out a couple other plants before I started hacking at it.
peppers have been hit or miss but I will try again with bell and maybe poblanos.
Peanuts did good so I will do those again.
beans/peas/cucs/onions have not done well in two years so I am giving up on them.
Thinking about potatoes and carrots, never have tried them, so we will see.
may also throw in okra for the missus.
 
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going to work on my garden this week in Atlanta GA.

tomatoes are a must, and do well. but I won't be doing cherry tomatoes again, they did too well and tried to take over the whole garden last year. they produced a ton, but were vining out ten plus feet, and choked out a couple other plants before I started hacking at it.
peppers have been hit or miss but I will try again with bell and maybe poblanos.
Peanuts did good so I will do those again.
beans/peas/cucs/onions have not done well in two years so I am giving up on them.
Thinking about potatoes and carrots, never have tried them, so we will see.
may also throw in okra for the missus.
For carrots I have done New Kodura the last couple years in 1x3 cloth grow bags. Shorter and stubbier so don't require deep prep. Would have done better with more patience to let grow to maturity. Haven't mastered that yet on carrots. Flavor and carrot sweetness is very good.

Okra - I normally do Heavy Hitter with great success. Plus you bread them up with fresh tomatos a skillet saute. Life and taste bud changing. Heavy Hitter is a dehybridized clemson spineless. In goo growing seasons i've had them head high. By end of season can barely put hand around base. Shovel is a must to remove plants after dying.

Tomatoes - Tried a red last year as an insurance tomato. Goliath. First time seeing or growing. As good and dependable as a Better Boy. Flavor was fantastic for a red. Vines are huge growing up to 8 feet. Worth the trellising hastle, and i'd describe it as a indterminate Better Boy for all around quality. Haven't done a better boy in a long time and was always a fav because of my gramps and how he grew them. His better boys were grown in mushroom compost straight from the grower and blood red and always hte best tomatoes of the season. Want to grow some this year, but going and getting a Goliath for insurnace is causing me a delimna in my decision.
 
For carrots I have done New Kodura the last couple years in 1x3 cloth grow bags. Shorter and stubbier so don't require deep prep. Would have done better with more patience to let grow to maturity. Haven't mastered that yet on carrots. Flavor and carrot sweetness is very good.

Okra - I normally do Heavy Hitter with great success. Plus you bread them up with fresh tomatos a skillet saute. Life and taste bud changing. Heavy Hitter is a dehybridized clemson spineless. In goo growing seasons i've had them head high. By end of season can barely put hand around base. Shovel is a must to remove plants after dying.

Tomatoes - Tried a red last year as an insurance tomato. Goliath. First time seeing or growing. As good and dependable as a Better Boy. Flavor was fantastic for a red. Vines are huge growing up to 8 feet. Worth the trellising hastle, and i'd describe it as a indterminate Better Boy for all around quality. Haven't done a better boy in a long time and was always a fav because of my gramps and how he grew them. His better boys were grown in mushroom compost straight from the grower and blood red and always hte best tomatoes of the season. Want to grow some this year, but going and getting a Goliath for insurnace is causing me a delimna in my decision.
Are you growing tomatoes in mushroom compost?
 
Are you growing tomatoes in mushroom compost?
No. Unfortuantely. Not like he did. I don't have access like he did. There was a mushroom plant in Knoxville years ago down on John Sevier near the river toward Strawberry Plains. He'd get a bulk load delivered from there when expendable. He didn't do a big garden. Most i remember was grapes that made wonderful unfiltered grape juice. His wine making was crap. But he;d make fresh milled grape juice unfiltered and freeze it. Childhood memory. We just don't do stuff like that anymore. But, I will when I get a crop of grapes cause I got the juicer for my kitchenade. And tomoatoes. He had two beds out of rail road ties. Two long and one accross. One down by the woods edge. And one by the house. Each spring he'd shovel them out and have another load delivered and fill them back up. Better Boys and Big Boys is all he grew. And that mushroom soil was tomato magic. Color. Flavor. Unreal what it did to hybrid tomatoes. I did have a better growing season last year up here than I've had the past couple. Green Beans was only thing that struggled. Which is odd cause mine usually do quite well. In any event, I'm switching off the old family pole bean this year except for a few plants for extra seed. Got two varieties of french style filet bush beans I'm gonna give a whirl.

Now, I do by a bag at store when i plant my plants and I will mix in a little in each hole. It helps, but it's not the same. And I'm not sure how pure that bagged mushroom compost is compared to his mushroom soil delivery from hte source. I'd say it's good verses way better. At my home in GA at one time, I would dig up my perennials and clear out my front flower beds each year and till in bags of mushroom compost. Did that for 3 seasons then left it and never did anything else but mulch. Stuff went crazy in those beds from there out. Turned red clay into dark brown magic those 3 years.

Been slowly improving my TN garden. Began mulching with straw and leaves about 3 years ago to reduce weeds and give it something to rot in over the year. I am not at a shortage for leaves. Blow them with moer in fall to a particular area and let them winter and then haul them on a tarp to garden. What that does cover gets straw bales. About 3 inches. And plant through that. Time to start hauling this week as weather allows. Been finding plenty of worms when I dig around so i'm getting there. May even forgo tilling this year. If you can get ot that point and stay mulched you don't re-expose the weed seed and life gets easier. Plus, less watering and eventually just mother nature. Tilling is always the beginning of a laborious season.

Tip for grape growers or eaters. Even for store bought seedless reds. To preserve just freeze whole in a container. They thaw pretty well for eating. Can even eat them frozen for a sweet frozen snack. They don't realy get ice cube solid. Kicks up the sugar content and you get a sweet preserved grape out of a bland grape you someyimes get from hte store.
 
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I drive to Monterey Mushroom down in Loudon TN a couple times every year to get a trailer and truck bed full of their compost. I plant my tomatoes directly in it. I have some metal 55 gallon drums cut in half and I fill them about 3/4 up with the compost. Tomatoes seems to love it. I also turn it into the garden and wife uses it in her flower beds. It’s pretty inexpensive considering what you get. A few weeks ago I got a full load on my 10’ trailer and also a dump into the bed of my Tundra for $125. They don’t advertise and I usually call ahead to make sure they’re allowing pickups that day. When you get there, the guard at the gate will tell you where to go…they load on a hill up behind the plant.

Right off I75, exit 72.
 
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I drive to Monterey Mushroom down in Loudon TN a couple times every year to get a trailer and truck bed full of their compost. I plant my tomatoes directly in it. I have some metal 55 gallon drums cut in half and I fill them about 3/4 up with the compost. Tomatoes seems to love it. I also turn it into the garden and wife uses it in her flower beds. It’s pretty inexpensive considering what you get. A few weeks ago I got a full load on my 10’ trailer and also a dump into the bed of my Tundra for $125. They don’t advertise and I usually call ahead to make sure they’re allowing pickups that day. When you get there, the guard at the gate will tell you where to go…they load on a hill up behind the plant.

Right off I75, exit 72.
Yeah, used to go there when we lived in Knoxville. You could get either fresh or old compost. I always got aged except one time I got fresh to mix with a lot of leaves.
 
3 mater seedlings up, so expecting more the next few days. Tried a new trick. 1" seedlings have a long tap root with just a few fiber branches. Very feeble at this stage of course. All 3 in one cup sprouted, so instead of throwing away when I thinned it to one, I poked a hole in cups that haven't sprouted yet and dropped them in those. To my surprize they are just as spritely and surviving. Didn't even lay over. No peppers or okra peeking through yet. One Broccoli Rabe. No cauliflower yet. Need to get me some lettuce seed in. Was gonna try seeding in a roughly 14x20ish rectangular picking basket that's about 6-7 inches deep. Small slot openings. Just fill with soil and seed it. let it grow for cut and come again harvesting instead of letting them head up. Did that with my parsley with success. Cleaning up that bed I discovered the parsley had survived winter and was coming back like a perrenial. Really strong and beefy root base at the ground. So clipped them all the way down and lightly covered in potting soil. Now have two nice parsley heads mounding up. Oregano and Thyme easily came back.

Just now pulled up left over sunflower stalks. Heads empty. Gonna pull back straw and see what's on ground or if birds found it, then cover with a light layer of potting soil and let them germinate. I did save some so I may scatter them out for insurance. Cutting back to two jobs is quite fun so far. Every night at home during week to play, and no more weekends after 8 plus years.

Got all my fruit tree and fruit bush pruning done.

Strawberry patch is getting off to an amazing start. Half the bed that survived from last year popped right up. Last week, dug them all up, conditioned the bed, replanted them and filled out the bed with a bundle of Sea Scape Everbearers. Now in day 7 of managing the bed, the returning strawberries have doubled, and already busting with blooms and small green berries. Seems early but i'm not complaining.

also seeing some green nodes on the figs getting ready to branch up.
 
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Hope the snow and freeze did not hurt the miniscule buds on my Figs that woud become my seasons growth. They would replace them if so, but would be too late to fruit.

Got a protective tunnel over the strawberries in time. Used tree mesh netting. May leave it for a little while longer. Berry plants seem to like it and it keeps me from finding my dog's prints in the bed.

Just ordered me a dwarf Sweetheart Cherry tree from Online Orchards. Afterward I figured out it's the same website I ordered my Carmine Jewel bush cherry from 3 years ago that has never grown or branched out. So, I gave up on it. Maybe the bush wasn't the right choice for my area. The Sweetheart is reported to be a rather healthy grower and it's a 2 year old bare root already. Think it can go 10-15 feet as a dwarf, but is easily kept pruned to around 7'. I like Online Orchards if my local nursery doesn't have what I want because they are half the price as other's. What I was wanting size and age wise would have been around $75-100 from Gurney's and other places. $50 give or take from this place for a 4' bareroot 2 years old including shipping and tax. Should start getting cherries rather quickly. This variety starts producing at a younger age and is already 2 years old.Hope this variety does well. Has a broader growing zone range. Ran accross it looking for dwarf/mini dwarf trees. Self-fertile. For you ATL area gardeners I saw a dwarf cherry for southern yards into zone 8.
 
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Seeded maters and peppers and okra and stuff first of march. Maybe end of Feb. Got 2 mater that sprouted up real early in the trays maybe within 2 weeks. They will be ready for hardening off and planting within 2 weeks probably. The rest are pretty well on schedule as little fellas, as I was prob 2 weeks or so getting trayed up. But, since I'm usually not safe to plug the maters till later april, I should be good. Just surprised these tow were so fast. The 3rd cup of the same mater didn't even germinate.

Raspberries are lit up. Put two new Heritage in the ground last year. At lunch today, counted about 12 sprouts coming up. Ad a few of those look to be multiple canes from the same general spot.

Blackberries poised to take off soon. Figs are showing some new growth at the base, though still a little early for fast growth. Prob 1/4"+ green nubs. Peah is loaded with blooms. Apple decent blooms coming but slack. THe bigger one only has maybe 3 or 4 so far, but it may be early still (Gala). Grape is still just twigs. Strawberries still looking good. I picnhed all the blooms the other day. Loaded up and too early. That first bloom has to come off.

Got a Carmine Jewel dwarf cherry bush 3 years ago, maybe 4. Should be near full size and producing, but it never got past a center twig with zero growth or bushing out. Pulled it up and just planted a very nice bareroot Dwarf Sweetheart Cherry Tree. Bright red sweet cherry color normally seen in the tarts instead of typical dark color for seets. Bought a 2yo on sale. At planting it will be entering year 3 already. Atleast a 1" caliper and nursery pruned to a solid 4-4 1/2 feet., which is larger than the shipping desription. Very stout. Nodes already loaded to leaf up and branch out. Will keep it manicured to about 7' down the road.

Sunflower seeds and Nasturtium seeds down for garden health.

Two 2'x4'x12' metal raised beds arriving tomorrow. Will use them for carrots, radish, onions, taters, lettuce, etc. But, already got lettuce, radish and carrot in other grow bags for the season, so not sure what I'll add to these yet besides the onion and taters. Got a pack of some Japanese onion as a free pack from Baker Creek on my last order. Looks like a flat white onion. May go get a pack of garlic to add. Long wait on that and onions.
 
Will Exie be making a return this season to grace us with her presence ??
Presently, she’s just finished an exam, looking to graduate in December. Busy woman. Being busy in Asheville, the only thing she’s growing right now is forage for her 5 chickens (egg lady 😁). I passed along your best wishes and those of @PEPPERJAX .
 
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Presently, she’s just finished an exam, looking to graduate in December. Busy woman. Being busy in Asheville, the only thing she’s growing right now is forage for her 5 chickens (egg lady 😁). I passed along your best wishes and those of @PEPPERJAX .
Thanks. She'd be impressed with my advances in my garden and my new greenhouse last xmas. I hope she was able to keep up her front lawn transformation.
 
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Got my garden planted this week. Pretty much every I bought as plants. I always seem to jack up vegetable seeding.

Tomatoes, carrots and oregano on the left. Corn next to them, will be doing beans once the corn gets up. Big middle space will be potatoes, got them soaking, along with an aisle of sunflowers. Last box is peppers and okra.

Also threw in two blueberry bushes. I my limited experience they are extremely temperamental so I am not expecting anything for about 3 seasons.
 

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