The game is changing.

#51
#51
feathersax said:
Winner, winner...chicken dinner!:eek::cool:
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Umm how does that explain improved offense’s?

“if” covid has hindered team A’s ability to gel on D..........wouldn’t it have the same effect on team B’s O?

At the very least both the O and D would have been hindered equally......right?
 
#52
#52
feathersax said:
Thanks, Mr. Biden.
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Lol I don’t think I was rude. I mean I could have said you were dead wrong but I didn’t.

Because you were......totally wrong. If the Rona caused teams defense to “not be great”.......then it would have had the same effect on teams offense.

Some of you can’t take it. When you can’t fight the message......you simply take it out on the messenger.

Child like name calling......silly. Why not simply come back and defend your point. If you can’t just let it go.
 
#53
#53
JoAllan said:
Lol I don’t think I was rude. I mean I could have said you were dead wrong but I didn’t.

Because you were......totally wrong. If the Rona caused teams defense to “not be great”.......then it would have had the same effect on teams offense.

Some of you can’t take it. When you can’t fight the message......you simply take it out on the messenger.

Child like name calling......silly. Why not simply come back and defend your point. If you can’t just let it go.
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Guess what?
 

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#55
#55
BruinVol said:
I have been disappointed with the D and decided to look at some trends in the SEC. This info is a little different than just pts allowed and i thought worth sharing.

I have looked at all the SEC vs SEC games in 2016, 2019 and then this year and here is what I found.


2016:
41% scored 30 or more pts in the game played

21% scored 40 or more pts in their game


2019:
41% scored 30 or more pts

22% scored 40 or more pts

2020:
48% scored 30 or more pts
27% scored 40 or more pts

I find it interesting that from 2016-2019 those % didn’t move much at all and keep in mind LSU was a big part of those 2019 higher numbers.

I find it perplexing that the numbers have skyrocketed this year with a league full of inconsistent or down right bad QBs.
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Apparently the spread is working. Butch was just ahead of his time.
 
#56
#56
JoAllan said:
Of the past 6 National Championship winners 4 of them scored 42 or more points (in that game). Only one time did the winner score less than 35 points.

Coaches can easily see what is winning now days.......offense.

If teams like Bama, Clemson, Ohio ST....ect are trying to improve their offense, and playing more of an offensive minded game.......everyone else has to as well......or be left behind.
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You've got to tip your hat to Saban, it took only one embarrassing blow out loss to OSU for the NC to change his program. He was up until that point known for being a defensive minded hard nosed coach and his Bama defenses reflected that at the time, no longer. Since that loss name OCs only, best players if there's a question which side of the ball they go to are sent to the offense. QBs at Bama are no longer McElroy game managers, they are dynamic part of their high scoring machine.
 
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#58
#58
feathersax said:
Feel NO need to "defend my post". Play on, McDuck.:rolleyes:
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Lol.....because you can’t!

You took the time to respond to me. Took the tome to try and cut me down.

If you could...you would. You and everyone else knows my original statement was right. You simply felt butt hurt and couldn’t take it and lashed out as best you could.....but in a civil manner.

Man people now days can’t take being wrong in the least......heck I’m wrong all the freakin time.
 
#59
#59
JoAllan said:
Lol.....because you can’t!

You took the time to respond to me. Took the tome to try and cut me down.

If you could...you would. You and everyone else knows my original statement was right. You simply felt butt hurt and couldn’t take it and lashed out as best you could.....but in a civil manner.

Man people now days can’t take being wrong in the least......heck I’m wrong all the freakin time.
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Go ahead on. Hope you feel better soon.:rolleyes:
 
#60
#60
BruinVol said:
I have been disappointed with the D and decided to look at some trends in the SEC. This info is a little different than just pts allowed and i thought worth sharing.

I have looked at all the SEC vs SEC games in 2016, 2019 and then this year and here is what I found.


2016:
41% scored 30 or more pts in the game played

21% scored 40 or more pts in their game


2019:
41% scored 30 or more pts

22% scored 40 or more pts

2020:
48% scored 30 or more pts
27% scored 40 or more pts

I find it interesting that from 2016-2019 those % didn’t move much at all and keep in mind LSU was a big part of those 2019 higher numbers.

I find it perplexing that the numbers have skyrocketed this year with a league full of inconsistent or down right bad QBs.
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Think Dick Saban has already covered this last week or so
 
#62
#62
USAFgolferVol said:
One of the things that bothers me about this team are it's silly mistakes. That's coaching. You don't see Alabama or Clemson making silly mistakes. They play with intelligence. That's entirely coaching and player development.

People keep saying Pruitt is good at player development. There's simply no real evidence of that at this point in actual games. He's never been anything but an assistant coach and coordinator
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Great players tend to either hide mistakes or make them irrelevant.
 
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BruinVol said:
I have been disappointed with the D and decided to look at some trends in the SEC. This info is a little different than just pts allowed and i thought worth sharing.

I have looked at all the SEC vs SEC games in 2016, 2019 and then this year and here is what I found.


2016:
41% scored 30 or more pts in the game played

21% scored 40 or more pts in their game


2019:
41% scored 30 or more pts

22% scored 40 or more pts

2020:
48% scored 30 or more pts
27% scored 40 or more pts

I find it interesting that from 2016-2019 those % didn’t move much at all and keep in mind LSU was a big part of those 2019 higher numbers.

I find it perplexing that the numbers have skyrocketed this year with a league full of inconsistent or down right bad QBs.
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We are aiming for Big 12 like play
 
#67
#67
D-rock said:
Especially when we go hurry up. Let’s give the ball back super fast and get our D back out there. That weighs on the mind of the defense. It’s frustrating.
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I Hate the hurry up but it’s clear we are going to use it.



My suggestion is that we don’t use it until we get a first down and then get into it. That would at least give a little longer break for the D if we do go 3 and out
 
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#68
BruinVol said:
I have been disappointed with the D and decided to look at some trends in the SEC. This info is a little different than just pts allowed and i thought worth sharing.

I have looked at all the SEC vs SEC games in 2016, 2019 and then this year and here is what I found.


2016:
41% scored 30 or more pts in the game played

21% scored 40 or more pts in their game


2019:
41% scored 30 or more pts

22% scored 40 or more pts

2020:
48% scored 30 or more pts
27% scored 40 or more pts

I find it interesting that from 2016-2019 those % didn’t move much at all and keep in mind LSU was a big part of those 2019 higher numbers.

I find it perplexing that the numbers have skyrocketed this year with a league full of inconsistent or down right bad QBs.
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go to any football camp these days and look at the TE and WR #’s compared to LB and defensive backfields. Offense is definitely winning at all levels these days. Will look like Big 12 more and more.
 
#69
#69
BruinVol said:
I Hate the hurry up but it’s clear we are going to use it.



My suggestion is that we don’t use it until we get a first down and then get into it. That would at least give a little longer break for the D if we do go 3 and out
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I agree
 
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#72
#72
Defense is still very important, the teams that win championships have very good defenses in the SEC. Things change, in the Pros after the first few weeks scoring has gone down overall. Also as players get older running that non stop tempo is hard and eventually I think the game will return more traditional with some of the spread still around. I don't think most teams in the pro's are equipped to run up tempo effectively. Defenses were also affected more than offenses by all the covid bs this year also. I don't need the score to 62-55 for a good game, I enjoy at 31-28 game a good 24-20 game. Spread offenses still get stopped sometimes. In fact most people I talk to wish and hope they have quit making rules that always help the offense entirely. You hear how folks just want to see scoring these days, well I think it's media hype most want to see good offense and defense these days. Good defenses are fun to watch also. In fact they are a few rule changes from turning people away all together, they need to allow the Db's to be able to knock reciever off ball 10 yards. Better would make it like it used to be where until the ball left qb's hand a db could hit the wr. They would put that rule in if they really cared about player safety as Wr's wouldn't have free reign at wide open speed across the middle where head to head impacts are usually the worst kinds. I like offense also, but I think more folks would rather see the defenses get a few rules in their favor than seeing a 70-63 game. That's just what the nfl is trying sell and promote. People want to see defense too, and on the college level also. In fact in the NFL defense still usually is what wins the superbowl. More than offense or defense it's good balance of both. That's what true football is and what most people want, a good balance of both.
 
#73
#73
D-rock said:
Especially when we go hurry up. Let’s give the ball back super fast and get our D back out there. That weighs on the mind of the defense. It’s frustrating.
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If a defense is stopping a tempo offense with 3 and out's it kills the other defense. Alos the spread often translates into lighter rb's running laterally and against fast defenses that doesn't work. That's why I wish we would go back to I-formation with bigger running backs and run fast hitting running plays and play action. In corporate a fullback in alot of your offense. I still keep some tempo around for certain times. Finesse offenses only work so long in the sec, and if you don't have a good defense at the end of the day your going to lose plenty no matter how good your offense is. See Mississippi, Arkansas won that game because their defense got them off the field and arkansas had a good balance of run and pass and kept the ball from mississippi. Arkansas defense is why they won that game though, stopping ole miss left and right for a good bit of the game.
 
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