The future of the Tennessee Vols football program (11/6/11)

how confident are you in the direction and future of the football program?

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#151
#151
killacamoh9 said:
Correlation is not causation. It could be the abysmal recruiting that took place from 07-09. Have a you taken a glance at our 2 deep in the last few years? We would've been better off on probation than dealing with Kiffin and the late Fulmer.

When a vast majority of the team isn't made of underclassmen then we can have a reason to b**** and moan. There have been plenty of silly and stupid mistakes that probably shouldn't have happened, but if you would've told me that Hunter, JJ, Lathers, and Bray would get hurt or not be on the team then I would've said we'd be lucky to get to a bowl and here we are.

Who would you have as our HC to lead us to the promise land?
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even counting JJ in this discussion is a joke. but yes, the Fulmer and Kiffin stuff didn't help, but we wouldnt even have bray if it weren't for Kiffin. but that doesn't take away from the fact that a lot of our players JUST AREN'T VERY GOOD! you guys blame it all on youth, but our OLine problems aren't because of youth, our speed at linebacker isn't because of youth, and our lack of a run game isn't because of youth.

SLOBBER_KNOCKER_U said:
That shows you where our program is right now.We are relying on fr. And sophs. Why cant you understand that?
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so all these players are going to magically be world beaters next year? in that case, hell, why isn't Poole the leading SEC rusher?

thestrip said:
Playing quarterback and running back is the same?

I just think we are a bad team right now, and when you take a top ten team to the wire, it's a good showing. It's not satisfying or what I want, but it's not the same losing to LSU by 2 and Kentucky by 2.

That's all I wanted, thank you
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And so AJ committed to UT and not Kiffin then?
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you guys claim how young we are. do you realize that our 3 best players that are Sophomores could all be gone after next year? then what will the excuse be?

no, but their guy performed and our guy sucked. doesn't get much more obvious than that. position doesnt really matter when one guy played really well and the other one got yanked before the end of the game.
 
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#152
#152
Indianavol4eva said:
give me a break. so the kid came here and committed under Kiffin, but he is a Dooley guy because he signed for Dooley? then doesn't that make the entire class Dooley guys?

Lane makes a bigger impact than Poole so that makes him an impact player? lol i'll borrow a comparison from Vollygirl and say that's like calling someone rich because they have twice as much money as their brother when their brother only has a dollar. Neither of these 2 has done jack **** to be called an impact player. you are basing that completely off of Lane's hype.

a lot of people expected 8 or 9 wins this year as well.
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No use in arguing with you. You are too hard headed... So what was your honest record prediction for this year?
 
#153
#153
Indianavol4eva said:
no, but their guy performed and our guy sucked. doesn't get much more obvious than that. position doesnt really matter when one guy played really well and the other one got yanked before the end of the game.
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lol. it's just as hard to overcome a terrible quarterback as it is a terrible running back then I suppose
 
#158
#158
and for those claiming Lane's greatness and obvious dominance over Poole, here you go.


T. Poole M. Lane
Carries: 145 59
Yards: 513 197
AVG: 3.5 3.3
TDs: 4 2
 
#161
#161
Indianavol4eva said:
your point was that Dooley recruited a ****ty QB to be our backup? i mean okay, but im not sure how that works toward the common argument of Dooley being the right guy for the job?
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So you are on record as saying that Worley is a ****ty quarterback?
 
#162
#162
Indianavol4eva said:
your point was that Dooley recruited a ****ty QB to be our backup? i mean okay, but im not sure how that works toward the common argument of Dooley being the right guy for the job?
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I don't think your cardiologist would approve of your current level of stress.

It's just a game.
 
#164
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ImportedVoL said:
10.. There is no doubt in my mind Dooley is going to be a 20 year coach for us with Multiple NC. I understand why many on here are worried right now but it will all start to come together next year and culminate into an amazing year in 2013. I still believe this is a 9-3 team this year without the injuries, not just the plays they would be making but by how they could lead the rest of the team by being on the field.
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if you think ya'll were a 9-3 team this year w/out the injuries you're a truefanV4L. i saw people on here who thought ya'll were gonna beat florida. now, i know kentucky isn't a football state, but you can look at ur roster and at florida's and know, ya'll ain't gonna beat florida, unless there's a bar fight in gainesville the night before and not everyone can make bail. same with lsu, bama, usc, and pretty much everyone else but kentucky.

Indianavol4eva said:
if he is only recruiting middle of the pack for the SEC, how will we get better? and since when did we figure out how to predict the future to know for a definite fact that we have a top 10 class?
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as a ky fan, i'll bring my expertise :neener: to this one. you can't recruit middle or bottom of the pack in the SEC and ever expect to be relevant/contend. trust me. i've lived thru it for 29 years.

Indianavol4eva said:
i thought the common Dooley supporter argument was that "stars don't matter?" seems like a contradiction to me, Skippy.
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ya'll are just .14 behind bama in average stars per player, so clearly dooley's not coachin' em up...

thestrip said:
I was just trying to get your opinion how much better UT would be with Saban this year than with Dooley. Don't see why that's such a bad question. That's as fair to ask as it is to make a poll about where UT is headed.
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with saban or miles ya'll would be a **** ton better. saban and miles aren't gonna suck, just don't know how to do it. saban and miles can guarantee a kid will go pro if a kid will come in and work their ass off to get there...dooley doesn't have the stats to back that up. same thing with gillispie and cal....gillispie came in and tried his best, but just wasn't the right man for the job. cal came in and has landed some of the best classes in NCAA history... bigtime programs need bigtime, already experience, and able to offer the full package, coaches. idk that that's what ya'll got. how many years does he have to right the ship is the answer. his rope is longer than muschamps imo, he just better hope he gets more opportunities than houston did
 
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#168
Indianavol4eva said:
your point was that Dooley recruited a ****ty QB to be our backup? i mean okay, but im not sure how that works toward the common argument of Dooley being the right guy for the job?
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Yeah that's what I said. Go ahead and just quote it so it's right here.
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But, let's pretend if we're in a fantasy land, I might have said something along the lines that I would much rather have been a team with a serviceable 5th string running back than with multiple injuries in different positions highlighted by the loss of the only decent option at quarterback
 
#170
#170
thestrip said:
Yeah that's what I said. Go ahead and just quote it so it's right here.
:whistling:

But, let's pretend if we're in a fantasy land, I might have said something along the lines that I would much rather have been a team with a serviceable 5th string running back than with multiple injuries in different positions highlighted by the loss of the only decent option at quarterback
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and who's fault is it that we only have one decent option at QB? hell, remember when we didn't even have a decent option at QB with Crompton? Kiffin put that kid in the ****ing NFL.
 
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#173
SLOBBER_KNOCKER_U said:
There are a whole lot of variables involved in outcome of those stats. lane is better IMO
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so your opinion trumps stats. the point is that in order to be considered an "impact" player, you gotta be making a big impact. if you are the backup running back posting the same stats as the starter who isn't considered very good, you aren't an impact player. Da'Rick and Hunter are impact players. Rainey and Demps are impact players. Alshon and Lattimore are impact players. Lane is not an impact player.
 
#174
#174
SLOBBER_KNOCKER_U said:
So what are you crying about? We still have a shot at 6 and 6. And you made this prediction before j.j, lathers, hunter and bray went down.
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JJ never ****ing went down. jesus he got kicked off the team! you can't count him at all! and okay, so i predicted that we would be just as ****ty with hunter, bray, and lathers all uninjured. what's your point? my prediction is what it is because i don't think Dooley is a good coach and i don't think our team is any good outside of a few players.
 
#175
#175
Indianavol4eva said:
so your opinion trumps stats. the point is that in order to be considered an "impact" player, you gotta be making a big impact. if you are the backup running back posting the same stats as the starter who isn't considered very good, you aren't an impact player. Da'Rick and Hunter are impact players. Rainey and Demps are impact players. Alshon and Lattimore are impact players. Lane is not an impact player.
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How many ypc do you think Richardson or Lattimore would have behind this o-line minus T. Bray and J. Hunter?
 
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