The FUN is gone…..

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Apply that same biblical energy to university presidents and TV executives.

Given your profession I trust you’ll gladly accept the next lowball offer for your client, and not put money above all else.

1) Ok, it has been applied. My statement remains the same.

2) Realtors don’t accept offers, nor reject them, nor counter them.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

1) Ok, it has been applied. My statement remains the same.

2) Realtors don’t accept offers, nor reject them, nor counter them.

1) Noted.

2) Very well then….if you are a buyer’s agent I’m certain you would advise your client to accept a ridiculously high offer, or if you are a seller’s agent you would advise your client to list their property well below market value, so as not to put money before all else.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

There’s a reason the Bible has very specific things to say about putting money above all else.

It becomes a disease that wrecks everything when it finds itself as the top priority.

Except nothing is being "wrecked". It no longer being something some people like as much doesn't remotely equal "wrecked". It seems to be doing just fine. Just because you might think it's "wrecked" doesn't mean it actually is.

People conflating their own opinions about things seems rather prideful to me...which I believe the Bible has something to say about too.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

1) Noted.

2) Very well then….if you are a buyer’s agent I’m certain you would advise your client to accept a ridiculously high offer, or if you are a seller’s agent you would advise your client to list their property well below market value, so as not to put money before all else.

Well buyers don’t accept offers… they make the offer. But the listing analogy is absurdly senseless. Asking them to list the house way above market would be putting money before all else, such as actually getting the house sold, and that strategy would fail.

This is an arbitrary exercise though.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Except nothing is being "wrecked". It no longer being something some people like as much doesn't remotely equal "wrecked". It seems to be doing just fine. Just because you might think it's "wrecked" doesn't mean it actually is.

People conflating their own opinions about things seems rather prideful to me...which I believe the Bible has something to say about too.

I don’t know how to help you see that this is causing a pretty big downward spiral for college football. It’s still fresh enough that attention to the sport is relatively unchanged, but the overwhelming majority seems to all have the same opinion on this whole NIL/portal fiasco. This has to change or interest is going to nose dive.

Your “pride” zinger isn’t worth acknowledging due to lack of any sensible use of that word.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Well buyers don’t accept offers… they make the offer. But the listing analogy is absurdly senseless. Asking them to list the house way above market would be putting money before all else, such as actually getting the house sold, and that strategy would fail.

This is an arbitrary exercise though.

It‘s also an exercise in hypocrisy.

CFB will be just fine whether you continue to watch or not.

 

[utchs81]

Yep, I don’t follow recruiting much at all anymore, let alone the portal…way too many moving parts these days.

Just tell me who’s on the roster after the last fall practice, and that’s who I roll with.

Until they decide it is a good idea to have another transfer Portal session right before season kicks off.

 

[CAVPUT]

Until they decide it is a good idea to have another transfer Portal session right before season kicks off.

Didn't we see a kid from UNLV walk out on his team during the season or am I imagining that? You know holdouts are coming. Some agent somewhere will try to put the squeeze on a school/program at some point.

 

[vols 30]

The Thrill is gone......

 

[deezvols]

I agree, but mostly when it comes to football. Oddly enough, I’m enjoying other sports more each year and football less.

 

[05_never_again]

I suppose this might reveal itself in time, but the whole "they're ruining the sport" stuff sure hasn't shown up in TV ratings and athletic department revenues. They are both higher than ever, and we're now 4 years into the new Portal and 3 into NIL.

 

[05_never_again]

I agree, but mostly when it comes to football. Oddly enough, I’m enjoying other sports more each year and football less.

I think that might have something to do with Tennessee being better at those other sports than football.

 

[05_never_again]

I don’t know how to help you see that this is causing a pretty big downward spiral for college football. It’s still fresh enough that attention to the sport is relatively unchanged, but the overwhelming majority seems to all have the same opinion on this whole NIL/portal fiasco. This has to change or interest is going to nose dive.

Your “pride” zinger isn’t worth acknowledging due to lack of any sensible use of that word.

In your opinion. TV ratings and various other metrics would seem to suggest that the masses at large disagree with you.

 

[MAD]

The fun is gone?

For second straight year America's College Sports City led the country in combined attendance across football and men's and women's basketball.

 

[deezvols]

I think that might have something to do with Tennessee being better at those other sports than football.

Probably has something to do with it, but as someone mentioned, it’s getting harder to stay invested in the revolving door of college football when there’s 40-50 (over-exaggeration) new players on the roster every season.

 

[StarRaider]

The Thrill is gone......

 

[05_never_again]

Probably has something to do with it, but as someone mentioned, it’s getting harder to stay invested in the revolving door of college football when there’s 40-50 (over-exaggeration) new players on the roster every season.

I can understand that. Basketball and baseball are like that too, but the rosters are smaller, so it is easier to remember names.

 

[miket4god]

Didn't we see a kid from UNLV walk out on his team during the season or am I imagining that? You know holdouts are coming. Some agent somewhere will try to put the squeeze on a school/program at some point.

Yeah his name is Nico.

 

[sami]

I suppose this might reveal itself in time, but the whole "they're ruining the sport" stuff sure hasn't shown up in TV ratings and athletic department revenues. They are both higher than ever, and we're now 4 years into the new Portal and 3 into NIL.

That's true, but I don't think anyone is taking into account what an immense factor legalized gambling is playing in the upsurge of sports viewership in the last 5-6 years. The powers that be saw interest and viewership slowly dwindling as older traditional fans tired of the direction that the major sports were headed, and brought in a younger fan base with a ton of discretionary spending money.

Hell, stadiums and arenas are being retrofitted with scoreboards catering to gamblers, and proper bet info is constantly displayed on the bottom of screens during games. All the networks have their own freaking sports books to get in on the action. I've met many younger fans whose loyalty lies with their 'fantasy' teams and whoever they happen to be betting on that day or night.

Gambling was once seen by sports leagues as the devil, the forbidden zone, to the point of fearing to put teams in Las Vegas. In an instant, that changed as leagues now openly embrace and promote gambling on their sacred events. The legalization didn't just happen by accident, and along with media rights fees it is becoming the biggest revenue source in pro and big time college sports.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

It SUCKS to admit it.
— But, The fun is gone.

The Competition is still there. — But, who knows “who’s playing who” next….

The fun is gone for all of the Universities that represent, sponsor, and promote all of the school’s sports programs.

The fun is gone for all of the coaches (in ANY sport) that used to enjoy recruiting, developing, and mentoring / teaching / training the players.

The fun is gone for college players that just want to WIN games.

The fun is gone for students & Alumni - because they can’t even count on “who’s gonna be on the team This / Next year”.

Example: Baylor lost their ENTIRE men’s basketball team. - EVERY Single Player…GONE!

The fun is gone for the fans that just want to support & cheer for their school. (Tickets, souvenirs, & even parking prices are outrageous, now).

— And whoever heard of having to “subscribe” to a Net-work just to see your favorite team play a game?

The fun is gone — My sons don’t even want a jersey with a player’s name on it, anymore….

NIL, The transfer portal, and “opting out” of ANY game has killed college sports! — And it’s only gonna get WORSE!

If I was a high-school athlete that was offered a scholarship (or even a walk-on) at a major university - I would be THRILLED! — And, I would be “dedicated” to that school just for the opportunity!

But, the fun is gone. - because it’s all about money, now……

Nor even. It's more fun than ever. Following posts like this is part of it.

 

[05_never_again]

That's true, but I don't think anyone is taking into account what an immense factor legalized gambling is playing in the upsurge of sports viewership in the last 5-6 years. The powers that be saw interest and viewership slowly dwindling as older traditional fans tired of the direction that the major sports were headed, and brought in a younger fan base with a ton of discretionary spending money.

Hell, stadiums and arenas are being retrofitted with scoreboards catering to gamblers, and proper bet info is constantly displayed on the bottom of screens during games. All the networks have their own freaking sports books to get in on the action. I've met many younger fans whose loyalty lies with their 'fantasy' teams and whoever they happen to be betting on that day or night.

Gambling was once seen by sports leagues as the devil, the forbidden zone, to the point of fearing to put teams in Las Vegas. In an instant, that changed as leagues now openly embrace and promote gambling on their sacred events. The legalization didn't just happen by accident, and along with media rights fees it is becoming the biggest revenue source in pro and big time college sports.

Much like NIL, I think legalized gambling is just taking what happened under the table and bringing it onto the table. I don't know anybody who watches sports who didn't used to gamble on them because it was illegal, and now does it because it's legal. Everybody I know who bets on apps was betting offshore or through a bookie previously.

 

[sami]

Much like NIL, I think legalized gambling is just taking what happened under the table and bringing it onto the table. I don't know anybody who watches sports who didn't used to gamble on them because it was illegal, and now does it because it's legal. Everybody I know who bets on apps was betting offshore or through a bookie previously.

I'm sure you're right, but an entirely new fan base was created with the advent of online gambling, proper bets, etc. The sports leagues jumped in head first too quickly, which is a pretty clear signal they knew the ship was beginning to leak water a bit, and the traditional fan base was aging and were not being 'replaced' at a fast enough pace to justify the growing revenue outlay by media networks. A jolt was needed, and gambling provided that and then some.

 

[05_never_again]

I'm sure you're right, but an entirely new fan base was created with the advent of online gambling, proper bets, etc. The sports leagues jumped in head first too quickly, which is a pretty clear signal they knew the ship was beginning to leak water a bit, and the traditional fan base was aging and were not being 'replaced' at a fast enough pace to justify the growing revenue outlay by media networks. A jolt was needed, and gambling provided that and then some.

Anecdotal, but I'm not sure a brand new fanbase was created. It's just talked about openly now and it wasn't before.