The final straw

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UTP69 said:
What is the final straw will it take to break the camel's back? What else has to happen before he is shown the door? I've never seen such a train wreck that has unfolded before our eyes. Someone please tell me that there is something positive going on. I'm not able to see it. AM I negative or just realistic?:loco:
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The final straw for me was when he threw the ball 3 times on the Florida 1 yard line.

Last year I saw it with Butch playing Hurd over Kelly and Kamara as you can see in the thread I created last year and I got attacked over. Is Hurd a waste of down?
 
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andywilson001 said:
Assuming the camel's back is still intact, I would say any loss other than Alabama should do it.

That being said, I believe the decision has already been made.
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I totally agree. I think there’s too much pressure from the fans and the outside to let it play out to the end of the season, which is probably what they’d like.
 
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mike099 said:
It is really sad that this program will probably take a recruiting hit and take another 5 years to be competitive.

I wonder what would have happened if we just let Fulmer stay. Probably not another NC, but consistent and competitive.
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No it won't.

Not if we sign the right guy.

We can compete worth Georgia next year for the east with the talent on hand.
 
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Booker512 said:
GT was playing a converted WR as their QB against us.

Close enough for ya?
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We won... so no.

Not to mention GT is just a better team in general. They have beaten Pitt and UNC pretty handedly since we played them. I fully expect them to hang with Miami for most part f their game this week.

Not really comparable to 2011 UK team that didn’t make a bowl.
 
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UTP69 said:
What is the final straw will it take to break the camel's back? What else has to happen before he is shown the door? I've never seen such a train wreck that has unfolded before our eyes. Someone please tell me that there is something positive going on. I'm not able to see it. AM I negative or just realistic?:loco:
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He has an eight million dollar buyout until UT is eliminated from a bowl game this season, Butch isn't going anywhere, the administration is just too cheap.
 
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VFLBerg said:
The final broken straw has already occurred. They are just deciding the date.
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Georgia was the final straw.

You can tell that Butch's family knows that he's on the way out from their remarks to the media. In seriousness I would say everyone needs to try to treat him and his family with respect though. He did his best and rebuilt the depth chart to the point that I think whoever follows him will be very successful.

On the other side of that Butch just needs to stop with the cliches and motivators. It's helping no one now.
 
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YorkVol said:
I'm one of the most positive people I know and I got off the bus early this season. The Florida game was just awful and UGA was gut wrenching. And it wasn't the losses, I can handle a loss in a game that has an oblong ball. It was the overall lack of effort from the players, lack of creativity by the coaches and the no motivation to even try anything to change things around.
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And you left out the excessive number of injuries this team has year after year!
 
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rocketskates said:
It's broken we are just waiting now. This all started last season against App State, the most talented Vol team we've had in years and they barely won that game and lost two this they should've won for sure (South Carolina and vandy). It was a sign of the locker room not being on the same page and it starts with the coach.
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I think you are dead on. Something happened between the bowl win and that App State game that changed Butch's control of this program forever. It was clear from that game forward that his teams were never completely ready to play for him anymore.

Maybe somebody can shed some light on that offseason for us.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
If he’s been told he’s done then the buy out is his whether he stays or goes.

You don’t tell an employee they are fired then allow them to work 2 more months and potentially torpedo your business from the inside.

Rare instances like Fulmer will a coach choose to finish out the regular season for his players and HIS University.
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What if you tell them they will be let go at the end of the season? They are at your mercy.
 
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Rgntddybrvol91 said:
....and, that is pretty much what VOLNATION is for...idle talk.

Nothing we say here affects the outcome in the the big picture, so let's not pretend like it does. So quit coming down on fans if they want to discuss their opinion of the state of affairs at UT..

GBO!!:hi:
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Josh Smith said in his interview yesterday that the fans have had an effect on the team, but what does he know:crazy:
 
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you have to think they are just letting Butch stick around for the 70-0 loss that is coming to bammer then they will let him go..
why put that stigma on an interim coach.
 
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#116
It's not the last straw that is important, it's the big straw. And the big straw is Jon Gruden, and he will be the straw that stirs the Vols to return to the top. :)
 
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MWR said:
It's not the last straw that is important, it's the big straw. And the big straw is Jon Gruden, and he will be the straw that stirs the Vols to return to the top. :)
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:) Gave a "like" just because you Gruden guys are some of the most persistent folks I've seen...
 
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DenmarkVol said:
6-6, with one of the losses being to Vanderbilt in Neyland. He will not survive such a scenario.
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The SAD fact is, if we go 6-6, we'll go bowling. With the ridiculous number of second tier bowls that have popped up, if you win 6-"You deserve a bowl game". In some cases even a 5 win can get you a bowl. The jones fan-boys will be screaming, "Look how great jones is, we're going to another bowl.....". It is really sad.:hi:
 
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