The fair way to judge Fulmer's coaching

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One of the fair ways to judge Phillip Fulmer's coaching ability is to measure the effort put forth by his players. I see no quit in this team. Even against Florida, I felt they put up a good effort.

You can say he's not recruiting well and that would probably be a fair judgement. Having said that, I think recruiting is harder than it's ever been. I do think he's on thin ice on Rocky Top, and if he gets canned, it would be justified. I just don't think he's this incompetent coach some people do.
 
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Redlegs said:
One of the fair ways to judge Phillip Fulmer's coaching ability is to measure the effort put forth by his players. I see no quit in this team. Even against Florida, I felt they put up a good effort.

You can say he's not recruiting well and that would probably be a fair judgement. Having said that, I think recruiting is harder than it's ever been. I do think he's on thin ice on Rocky Top, and if he gets canned, it would be justified. I just don't think he's this incompetent coach some people do.
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Kentucky can have him
 
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i do like the players' effort. Minus crompton. He looks like he has no clue what he's doing. On several occasions he was first in line for gatorade after a 3 and out.
 
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Voldaddy said:
Right. That's why we leave a functioning retard in as QB.
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I have to reserve some judgement 'til I've evaluated what the others do. If Stephens/Coleman are only marinally better (or God forbid worse) it'll be tough to skewer the coaches for it.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
i do like the players' effort. Minus crompton. He looks like he has no clue what he's doing. On several occasions he was first in line for gatorade after a 3 and out.
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Please. Crompton is playing hurt and scrambling for first downs. Effort isn't the issue.
 
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hndog609 said:
I have to reserve some judgement 'til I've evaluated what the others do. If Stephens/Coleman are only marinally better (or God forbid worse) it'll be tough to skewer the coaches for it.
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If that's the case, we'll be lucky to win 5 games.
 
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kptvol said:
Please. Crompton is playing hurt and scrambling for first downs. Effort isn't the issue.
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I agree. Jonathan Crompton gives it his all, effort-wise.

The problem is that apparently he's a practice QB who can't function when the game speeds up and the green jersey comes off.

Crompton's "all" isn't enough to win in the SEC.
 
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TroyCG said:
I agree. Jonathan Crompton gives it his all, effort-wise.

The problem is that apparently he's a practice QB who can't function when the game speeds up and the green jersey comes off.

Crompton's "all" isn't enough to win in the SEC.
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Some guys just don't cut it when the lights come on.
 
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Recruiting class rank vs win/loss record against top 20 ranked teams and the Big Four of the SEC; Georgia, Florida, Alabama and LSU. Look at the 90's compared to 2000 to present. Enough said. :drive2:


Volzilla
 
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Redlegs said:
One of the fair ways to judge Phillip Fulmer's coaching ability is to measure the effort put forth by his players. I see no quit in this team. Even against Florida, I felt they put up a good effort.

You can say he's not recruiting well and that would probably be a fair judgement. Having said that, I think recruiting is harder than it's ever been. I do think he's on thin ice on Rocky Top, and if he gets canned, it would be justified. I just don't think he's this incompetent coach some people do.
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Year after year he gets outcoached by refusing to make adjustments during the game. Sure, the players give him good effort because he is their coach and there is a bond there. I don't question him as a players coach, I question him on his coaching ability. It is just time for him to move on.
 
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My preference for the NI game is that both Coleman and Stephens share the snaps....use this game to determine who gets the nod for the starting position.

JC should be finished for the year.

At least the Fans will back off of Phil (a bit), and the Offense can then move forward, simply because it is IMPOSSIBLE to take any more steps backwards at QB. Its a win-win situation!
 
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I'd say the fair way to judge his abilities is look at his record against the current SEC coaches. It's pathetic. Also, look what he did without this generation's best football player and a defense full of NFLers.
 
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NEVolFan said:
My preference for the NI game is that both Coleman and Stephens share the snaps....use this game to determine who gets the nod for the starting position.

JC should be finished for the year.

At least the Fans will back off of Phil (a bit), and the Offense can then move forward, simply because it is IMPOSSIBLE to take any more steps backwards at QB. Its a win-win situation!
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Nobody is going to back off of phil. 0-4 against meyer. Lost his last four against tubbs and auburn too. I don't have to get into his pitiful record against the rest of the relevant teams in the sec. I'am sure he'd like the focus to shift from him to the qb,fat chance.
 
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hndog609 said:
I have to reserve some judgement 'til I've evaluated what the others do. If Stephens/Coleman are only marinally better (or God forbid worse) it'll be tough to skewer the coaches for it.
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So you're saying you have to watch the film?

Here's my point. Put one of the kids in and let them play. Sure, there will be mistakes made, we all know that. But, we will hopefully see them get better each game. Can we say the same thing about Crompton?
 
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Voldaddy said:
So you're saying you have to watch the film?

Here's my point. Put one of the kids in and let them play. Sure, there will be mistakes made, we all know that. But, we will hopefully see them get better each game. Can we say the same thing about Crompton?
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Exactly, and when he finally does bench Crompton, the media is going to praise CPFs decision to bring in a new qb, even though we all knew it should've been done a long time ago.
 
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the.one.the.only said:
Exactly, and when he finally does bench Crompton, the media is going to praise CPFs decision to bring in a new qb, even though we all knew it should've been done a long time ago.
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Praise? He should be ridiculed for not doing it sooner if it turns out that way.
 
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Redlegs said:
One of the fair ways to judge Phillip Fulmer's coaching ability is to measure the effort put forth by his players. I see no quit in this team. Even against Florida, I felt they put up a good effort.

You can say he's not recruiting well and that would probably be a fair judgement. Having said that, I think recruiting is harder than it's ever been. I do think he's on thin ice on Rocky Top, and if he gets canned, it would be justified. I just don't think he's this incompetent coach some people do.
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The players are not quiting they are playin hard, as far as recruiting i think we have some very talented players but thier not getting a chace to make plays because Crompton cant get them the ball. Crompton should have been pulled at halftime in this game and the Florida game. Fulmer says that Crompton gives them the better chance to win and he does see them everyday in practice but there is no way that Stephens or Coleman are practicin that bad. If Crompton dont ride the bench in the Northern Ill. game and Fulmer dont rotate Stephens and Coleman to see which gets the start for Georgia hes a worse coach than i think he already is, either way i believe its time for him to go
 
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Voldaddy said:
So you're saying you have to watch the film?

Here's my point. Put one of the kids in and let them play. Sure, there will be mistakes made, we all know that. But, we will hopefully see them get better each game. Can we say the same thing about Crompton?
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I'm saying nothing of the sort. I'm saying that if the coaches haven't seen anything in practice that makes them think somebody is more deserving then I understand their reluctance to bench the guy that at least has the most experience.

I'm right in line with your second point.
 
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hndog609 said:
I have to reserve some judgement 'til I've evaluated what the others do. If Stephens/Coleman are only marinally better (or God forbid worse) it'll be tough to skewer the coaches for it.
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Shouldn't we rest assure that if we lose one more game that we are indeed out of the SEC running and maybe...just maybe we can replace Crapton with a younger QB who can actually throw a simple slant route?
 
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Oracle69 said:
Shouldn't we rest assure that if we lose one more game that we are indeed out of the SEC running and maybe...just maybe we can replace Crapton with a younger QB who can actually throw a simple slant route?
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Please, please make a change before Georgia. I have to live in this town.
 
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Oracle69 said:
Shouldn't we rest assure that if we lose one more game that we are indeed out of the SEC running and maybe...just maybe we can replace Crapton with a younger QB who can actually throw a simple slant route?
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What my comment was aimed at is if the other QB's come out and are little if any better than Crompton then what are you really blaming the coaches for? Not making a lateral move from lousy to lousy? (or worse)

Now, if Stephens/Crompton come in and there's an obvious improvement (and don't just take this as fact if they look good vs NI) then the coaches will be seriously and justifiably questioned why the change wasn't made sooner.
 
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