The Doug Dickey Rule = Hire Kiffin (Must Read -- Not Too Long)

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Bluetic said:
Imagine the excitement around UT football if Lane was introduced as the next coach of the Vols! Big orange-white game sales, trolling other teams, Halloween Jerseys and best of all, totally forgetting about all this garbage...knowing we finally got a big name SEC caliber coach!
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Imagine the embarrassment about UT football by same fans. You know,people who want a guy that hasn't been a joke every stop he's made.

You Kiffin love boys are a curious bunch.
 
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Thread of the day yesterday in a thoroughly exhausting day. Keep hope alive. Hop on the Lane Train. Signed: #TiredofMediocrity
 
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Karma is right. This is poetic justice. We are both to blame for the situations in which we now find ourselves respectively, UT for the insane mismanagement of its athletic program and Kiffin for the sins of youth. Both are looking for a second chance to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and make another run at greatness. The most disheartening thing about this is that the possibility is right in front of us for the taking. If it does not work out we can be in no worse condition than we are in currently.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
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Your otherwise wonderful analogy has one glaring fault. Doug Dickey was always--as a player, a coach, and an athletic director--an honorable man of integrity and class. Meanwhile, Lane Kiffin is a disease composed of no integrity, low values and great immaturity.

They both left Tennessee to return to their dream jobs. Got it. If only that were the full story. Eh?
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Your otherwise wonderful analogy has one glaring fault. Doug Dickey was always--as a player, a coach, and an athletic director--an honorable man of integrity and class. Meanwhile, Lane Kiffin is a disease composed of no integrity, low values and great immaturity.

They both left Tennessee to return to their dream jobs. Got it. If only that were the full story. Eh?
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Agree all day.

I'm not saying that it isn't tempting to bring him in right now. He can call plays and he is a known commodity. But don't we know enough about him at this point?

What I don't understand is the repeated sentiment by those who say "Lane has changed" "Lane knows what he did" "Lane has overcome the mistakes of his youth".

Based on WHAT exactly? The Kim Jong Un tweet? Flirting publicly with another employer while his team is still playing? Trolling UT for years on Twitter? Mocking his former employer like a spurned 10th grader?

And I'm sorry but the guy took off in the middle of the night while contacting our recruits, trying to decimate our recruiting class. He wasn't 25 when that happened. He was 35. He agreed to take the job at what was, at that time, was one of the best jobs in his profession and he didn't give a da##.

How many of you would open the door for a hot ex-wife who left you and the kids for her ex with a Porsche who she reconnected with on Facebook? And then spent the next 8 years mocking you to your friends? Oh, and she ran up all of your credit cards before she left.

To make things worse, the only woman who will have you after she drags you is Derrick effin Dooley.

Have some pride and realize that the only "growing up" this guy has done was while he was pinned under Saban's thumb at AL and was forced to keep his mouth shut.

Again, I get it. He can call plays and he's popular. But I haven't seen any data to say he has changed.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Your otherwise wonderful analogy has one glaring fault. Doug Dickey was always--as a player, a coach, and an athletic director--an honorable man of integrity and class. Meanwhile, Lane Kiffin is a disease composed of no integrity, low values and great immaturity.

They both left Tennessee to return to their dream jobs. Got it. If only that were the full story. Eh?
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How many current day HCs are more than used-car salesman.

The man knows how to win. That's his job. That's what we'd pay him for. Mack Brown could teach Sunday School, but not Oklahoma or Alabama.
 
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Guyute said:
Agree all day.


What I don't understand is the repeated sentiment by those who say "Lane has changed" "Lane knows what he did" "Lane has overcome the mistakes of his youth".

Based on WHAT exactly? The Kim Jong Un tweet? Flirting publicly with another employer while his team is still playing? Trolling UT for years on Twitter? Mocking his former employer like a spurned 10th grader?

And I'm sorry but the guy took off in the middle of the night while contacting our recruits, trying to decimate our recruiting class. He wasn't 25 when that happened. He was 35. He agreed to take the job at what was, at that time, was one of the best jobs in his profession and he didn't give a da##.

How many of you would open the door for a hot ex-wife who left you and the kids for her ex with a Porsche who she reconnected with on Facebook? And then spent the next 8 years mocking you to your friends? Oh, and she ran up all of your credit cards before she left.
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First answer- Saban hired Lane and Lane has admitted that working for Saban was best thing for his career.

Two- you would have done the same thing. Coaches recruit players for themselves. All coaches to take better jobs always try to get their recruits to follow. You’re lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

Last- if everyone else didn’t use the “runaway girlfriend” analogy, would you? That has to be the most idiotic and fake comparison i have seen. UT made it very easy for Lane to leave. Not his fault. So foolish.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Last- if everyone else didn’t use the “runaway girlfriend” analogy, would you? That has to be the most idiotic and fake comparison i have seen. UT made it very easy for Lane to leave. Not his fault. So foolish.
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Missed place anger. Instead of being made at Lane, they need to be mad at Hamilton for allowing such a low buyout. If you want to go further, the reason why Lane was even hired was because Fulmer was fired and had the program slipping since 2005.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
"The worst decision I ever made," were the words Doug Dickey said to me at church one Sunday in 1984 when he was working a day job in Lakeland, Florida.

Coach Dickey had beaten Bear Bryant 3 times in a row (1967-1969) as UT's head coach (3-2-1 v Bear), and won the 67 and 69 SEC Championships, but his heart lead him home to Gainesville where he'd been the QB in the early 50s. Vols felt betrayed, having given Coach Dickey his 1st head coaching job, and embarrassed because Florida was a 2nd-tier program.

Instead of UT continuing to dominate the SEC and play for NCs, Dickey's absence at Tennessee left a vacuum that put Bryant and Alabama in the record books. We've never really recovered. Dickey's coaching career was over in 9 years, after going 58-43-2 at Florida and only once finishing higher than 4th in the SEC. He was 0-4 in bowls.

Swallowing our pride, forgiving the insult and using our heads, in 1985 UT named Doug Dickey its Athletic Director, a post he occupied through 2002. His time as athletic director was notable for the improvement and expansion of the university's athletic facilities. Neyland Stadium was expanded to more than 100,000 seats, and other additions included the Thompson–Boling Assembly Center and Arena, the Lindsey Nelson Baseball Stadium, the Goodfriend Tennis Center, executive suites at Neyland Stadium, the Neyland–Thompson Football Complex, and the Thornton Athletics Student Life Center. Dickey also had the unusual experience of watching his son, Daryl Dickey, become the starting quarterback for the Volunteers in the middle of the 1985 season and leading them to a 35–7 win over #2 Miami Hurricanes in the Sugar Bowl.

For those of you with too much pride to forgive Kiffin for the poor decisions of his youth: IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU. It's about this university's great football heritage and the pitiful mess it's become. As a football coach, Kiffin is as good as anyone. Knows more about offense than Saban. Knows a lot more about coaching than he did 8 years ago. Next to Miles, Kiffin Has a better resume than anyone we have considered or are considering.

Hiring Kiffin is an easy call. He wants the job. He'll bring in a top coaching staff. We'll get our Top-5 recruiting class back. The kids will love playing for him. If he doesn't work out (unlikely), we'll make another move in 5 years not wondering whether we twice lost lightning in a bottle.
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"he wants the job".....huh? says who?the guy has done nothing but troll and make fun of Tn during this coaching search,and somehow from all the slapstick humor he's making at Tn, you and some others magically read into it that "he wants the job".The guy showed he had no commitment at all to the school by just walking away.What does it take to make you see he's not interested in the job at Tn?
 
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Guyute said:
Agree all day.

I'm not saying that it isn't tempting to bring him in right now. He can call plays and he is a known commodity. But don't we know enough about him at this point?

What I don't understand is the repeated sentiment by those who say "Lane has changed" "Lane knows what he did" "Lane has overcome the mistakes of his youth".

Based on WHAT exactly? The Kim Jong Un tweet? Flirting publicly with another employer while his team is still playing? Trolling UT for years on Twitter? Mocking his former employer like a spurned 10th grader?

And I'm sorry but the guy took off in the middle of the night while contacting our recruits, trying to decimate our recruiting class. He wasn't 25 when that happened. He was 35. He agreed to take the job at what was, at that time, was one of the best jobs in his profession and he didn't give a da##.

How many of you would open the door for a hot ex-wife who left you and the kids for her ex with a Porsche who she reconnected with on Facebook? And then spent the next 8 years mocking you to your friends? Oh, and she ran up all of your credit cards before she left.

To make things worse, the only woman who will have you after she drags you is Derrick effin Dooley.

Have some pride and realize that the only "growing up" this guy has done was while he was pinned under Saban's thumb at AL and was forced to keep his mouth shut.

Again, I get it. He can call plays and he's popular. But I haven't seen any data to say he has changed.
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The most frustrating turd that won't flush is the "get Kiffin" and "get Gruden" crowd. If both Gruden and Kiffen came out and said "tennessee sucks and I would never coach there",there would still be those who cling to the outside hope they might change their mind. Because neither of them have not shown any interest in coming,they see what the rest of us don't-that deep down both secretly can't wait to sign with Tn.Just delusional!
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
If the package Donte Stallworth claims is on the table, it's only the tenth example of criminal malfeasance exercised by UTAD in three short days.

And I hate Kiffin.
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If we could still get this deal, we should take it. And, I'm not a Kiffin fan either.
 
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Our luck, Malzan will stay at the Farm and Arkansas will hire Kiffin. The only thing worse than not hiring Kiffin is having to watch him have success in the conference again.
 
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volfeeva said:
The most frustrating turd that won't flush is the "get Kiffin" and "get Gruden" crowd. If both Gruden and Kiffen came out and said "tennessee sucks and I would never coach there",there would still be those who cling to the outside hope they might change their mind. Because neither of them have not shown any interest in coming,they see what the rest of us don't-that deep down both secretly can't wait to sign with Tn.Just delusional!
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Lane would come and be big success. We wont call him though, will never happen.
 
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volfeeva said:
"he wants the job".....huh? says who?the guy has done nothing but troll and make fun of Tn during this coaching search,and somehow from all the slapstick humor he's making at Tn, you and some others magically read into it that "he wants the job".The guy showed he had no commitment at all to the school by just walking away.What does it take to make you see he's not interested in the job at Tn?
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He was interviewed by ESPN on radio and he said he would take the job. He said "sure, people who breakup make up all the time."
 
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