The Divided Fanbase / Stop Panicking / Negativity Thread (merged)

#52
#52
peytonwhat said:
Let me just say, some of you on here with you optimism. Just stop it, look at Notre Dame football over the past 10 years. Seriously that is where we are headed.

I personally have no bad feeling towards Dooley. He seems to be nice and honest. But honestly does this guy even exist, and if he does, I do not believe it is going to be him who turns this thing around.

****Tennessee is now a forgotten football program in all top high school recruits minds****
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And it's all Dooley's fault, right? Blame the guy who has only been here a few months without him even getting through 2 spring practices. No team is entitled to having a good year, every year. It has to be earned, and the last couple of years have made it hard for success in the few years to come. That's just the way it is. Every team goes through a time like this.
 
#53
#53
A fan base divided it is. That's what happens after you waller in mediocrity for as long as we have. Ticket sales were up, there were butts in the seats and money was good. Most saw no need to change anything. I'll say it again, it would have took someone with some football smarts to understand what was going on with the program. You want ticket sales , big fancy facilities, sky boxes and smoozing with the big shots , then Mike Hamilton is the AD for you. A football savy AD would have made the necessary changes years ago to avoid going this long without anything. This guy just can't read between the lines. That's why there were USC highlight films being shown to potential recruits too come to Tennessee. A direct smack in the face of the traditions here , but yet it was allowed. I would have **** canned Lane's butt right after i saw that garbage. He just don't get it and that's why it and he failed.
 
#54
#54
The fan base has been divided since 2005 and will be until we are back in the SECCG! There is alot of blame to go around starting with the mega boosters and Hamilton, CPF should have been gone after 05 but either the boosters (read good 'ol boys) wouldn't support it or MH didn't have the guts to do it.

LK was a risky hire but I have to give MH the credit for having the stones to make it but like with every chance you take it can blow up in your face and it did. CDD, I believe was a desparation hire. He may turn out to be the best thing since sliced bread but I doubt it. Hammy made the school look desprate by hiring CDD and we are paying for it, he should have let Kippy be the interm HC this year, took his time and lumps then hired a home run coach this spring or after the 10 season.
 
#55
#55
I think negative people are just more vocal, So it seems to be more of them.
 
#56
#56
hmanvolfan said:
I'm personally just sitting in a lawn chair, drinking a beer and waiting to see what's gonna happen.
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The right approach. As I recall, the Vols lost 6 times last season, and the sun rose the morning after every one of them.

Rebuilding stinks, but it is where we are. There are no shortcuts to getting back, but rebuilding one piece at a time.

I am waiting to see what we do on the field next season. I don't expect a world beater, but I am hoping for a positive step forward.
 
#57
#57
VolsRule said:
Because of the bare cupboard he started with, dooley should get at least 3-4 years to win big.
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Agreed assuming he and his staff prove to be outstanding recruiters. If he lays a couple of recruiting eggs over the next year or two get some butter 'cause he's probably toast.

If this staff proves to be effective and consistent recruiters then I'll hold my assessment for 3-4 yrs assuming they can coach as well as they recruit.

This program has been through hell the past 18 months -- and arguably since the big bust of 2005 -- and is still going through hell. Add to that volatile situation rejections by proven coaching candidates and a fall back high risk hire and yea the natives are going to be restless.

I'm personally going to root real hard for Dooley to do well until he proves otherwise.
 
#58
#58
LK's unceremonious departure left a ton of fans seriously jilted and no hire other than General Neyland incarnate would've been good enough for some. Too, the fact that CDD's previous employer, resume to this point, and old-school mentality resemble the old regime all too much.

I prefer to listen fast and speak slowly.

Winning cures all ills. Let's play some football before we martyr CDD.
 
#59
#59
Daddy Gee said:
You make a good point eric.... I know there were some who disliked fulmer and majors during their tenures, but it didn't seem divided like it does now...... some feel beaten down and some disagree about kiffin and now dooley...
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Are you kidding??? The anti-Fulmer voices started grumbling after the SECCG 2nd half melt down against LSU, got a bit louder the next year after the Peach Bowl embarassment and even louder after the very next Peach Bowl embarassment and really peaked after the 2005 implosion. Every message thread on every board seemed to degenerate into a Fulmer debate and for every positive thing the team did in 2006 and 2007 there seemed to be a corresponding negative that just kept the fires stoked until the final implosion in 2008.

From my subjective survey of the boards, I'd say we're less divided now then during the final 4-5 years of the Fulmer era. But I'd say there's a lot of angst, fustration, uncertainty and disappointment that are all to be expected.

I'm going to hold my powder on Dooley as it seems he's about the best we could get at the time without going backwards with Cutcliff or the unproven Kippy. Message to the frustrated...there were no big name coaches lined up to take the Tennessee job apparantly at any reasonable price. Given that, I'd just as soon take a chance with prospect like Dooley than a fall back/holding position of Cutcliff or Kippy. If you think recruiting is difficult now how do you think it would be if the message to recruits was that the HC was just a temporary position until we can find someone better.

Might as well roll the dice which is what Hammy did.
 
#60
#60
peytonwhat said:
Let me just say, some of you on here with you optimism. Just stop it, look at Notre Dame football over the past 10 years. Seriously that is where we are headed.

I personally have no bad feeling towards Dooley. He seems to be nice and honest. But honestly does this guy even exist, and if he does, I do not believe it is going to be him who turns this thing around.

****Tennessee is now a forgotten football program in all top high school recruits minds****
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GTFO stupid troll
 
#64
#64
VolinDawgland said:
Are you kidding??? The anti-Fulmer voices started grumbling after the SECCG 2nd half melt down against LSU, got a bit louder the next year after the Peach Bowl embarassment and even louder after the very next Peach Bowl embarassment and really peaked after the 2005 implosion. Every message thread on every board seemed to degenerate into a Fulmer debate and for every positive thing the team did in 2006 and 2007 there seemed to be a corresponding negative that just kept the fires stoked until the final implosion in 2008.

From my subjective survey of the boards, I'd say we're less divided now then during the final 4-5 years of the Fulmer era. But I'd say there's a lot of angst, fustration, uncertainty and disappointment that are all to be expected.

I'm going to hold my powder on Dooley as it seems he's about the best we could get at the time without going backwards with Cutcliff or the unproven Kippy. Message to the frustrated...there were no big name coaches lined up to take the Tennessee job apparantly at any reasonable price. Given that, I'd just as soon take a chance with prospect like Dooley than a fall back/holding position of Cutcliff or Kippy. If you think recruiting is difficult now how do you think it would be if the message to recruits was that the HC was just a temporary position until we can find someone better.

Might as well roll the dice which is what Hammy did.
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Great great great post. Agree on all points.
 
#65
#65
Except for a few rival fans on here, I think most of us CLAIM to be Volunteers. Big Orange fans for the last few years have "been through the ringer". Lets give the 2010 team a chance to prove MOST everybody wrong. I like many of you thought "what are we going to do" when Peyton graduated after the '97 season. Tee Martin? Oh, its going to be a long year. So we start off beating Syracuse and Florida. We lose Jamal Lewis in the Auburn game, OMG, we can't win without Jamal. We all know how the '98 season played out. CLK leaving was definitely a set back, lets not kid ourselves, look at his recruiting class. Dont kid yourself into thinking we're not going to miss Bryce Brown either. He was the overall #1 player, and did a hell of a job last year. We have what we have. We are again fielding a young team, and have a heck of a schedule next year. But who is to say that this wont be a memorable season. As bad as it hurts to say it, KY has a young basketball team, and somebody said there pretty good. Dont lose hope Vol fans, every team in the nation has been through lean years, we'll get through ours. No matter what, ITS GREAT TO BE A TENNESSEE VOL.
Go Big Orange!
 
#67
#67
Tennessee will definitely be back. No doubt about that. If UT basketball can survive through Wade Houston and Buzz Peterson, UT football can survive this.

I just have doubts that it will happen under this staff, that's all.
 
#68
#68
I predict that DD will be a Vol for at least 10 years (unless he is lured away to UGA). Book it!!
 
#69
#69
Long time reader, first time post.

I think a lot of people need to realize that "great" coaches don’t always move from school to school. Most great coaches build a program from scratch or bring it back from the brink. I think if we give CDD a chance and support him as fans, he can bring the Volunteers back to the big stage. From what other coaches around the country have said, he has the class and smarts to be a big time coach, let’s see what kind of results he produces on the field before tearing the man down.

GO VOLS!
 
#70
#70
UTChicagoV said:
Long time reader, first time post.

I think a lot of people need to realize that "great" coaches don’t always move from school to school. Most great coaches build a program from scratch or bring it back from the brink. I think if we give CDD a chance and support him as fans, he can bring the Volunteers back to the big stage. From what other coaches around the country have said, he has the class and smarts to be a big time coach, let’s see what kind of results he produces on the field before tearing the man down.

GO VOLS!
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Well said.
 
#72
#72
UTChicagoV said:
Long time reader, first time post.

I think a lot of people need to realize that "great" coaches don’t always move from school to school. Most great coaches build a program from scratch or bring it back from the brink. I think if we give CDD a chance and support him as fans, he can bring the Volunteers back to the big stage. From what other coaches around the country have said, he has the class and smarts to be a big time coach, let’s see what kind of results he produces on the field before tearing the man down.

GO VOLS!
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Great first post. Welcome to the board:hi:
 
#73
#73
UTChicagoV said:
Long time reader, first time post.

I think a lot of people need to realize that "great" coaches don’t always move from school to school. Most great coaches build a program from scratch or bring it back from the brink. I think if we give CDD a chance and support him as fans, he can bring the Volunteers back to the big stage. From what other coaches around the country have said, he has the class and smarts to be a big time coach, let’s see what kind of results he produces on the field before tearing the man down.

GO VOLS!
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Agreed. This thing will not be fixed overnight, especially with the schedule we have for the next 2 years. I think that he learned a lot from his old man and from Saban. Somethings he will do similar and some things he will do his own way. I don't think we can judge him this year or even next year. Welcome to Volnation, by the way and a very good opening post!
 
#74
#74
I predict that I will still get just as hammered as I always do on Saturday and scream at the TV or scream in Neyland.

Whatever's clever. I just love being a Vol fan.

You can't get too wrapped up in people being divided. Vols fan are always *****ing about something.
 
#75
#75
UTChicagoV said:
Long time reader, first time post.

I think a lot of people need to realize that "great" coaches don’t always move from school to school. Most great coaches build a program from scratch or bring it back from the brink. I think if we give CDD a chance and support him as fans, he can bring the Volunteers back to the big stage. From what other coaches around the country have said, he has the class and smarts to be a big time coach, let’s see what kind of results he produces on the field before tearing the man down.

GO VOLS!
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Most great coaches also don't go 17-20 against some of the worst competition in college football. Just saying.
 
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