The difference between Pruitt and Smart

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BeardedVol said:
Weak in comparison to who? I don't care if you a QB can throw the ball 100 yards if he can't pick up pressure, protect the ball, and make plays.

Give me the guy who can think like an actual QB, read defenses, and evade pressure, but whose "weak arm" can only throw a 50 yard pass.
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Reading does't get it done if you can't make the deep and out throws.
 
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Kirby Smart inherited a program with far greater talent that was already a top 10 program rather than one that went 0-8 in the SEC.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I think that Kirby has put Georgia in a really bad position as far as qb is concerned. I can't believe he was not able to get or keep a quaterback with the talent that team has. At this point I think he would take JG in a heartbeat. I think Alabubba beats Georgia with Bennett at qb.
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Kirby would take JG. LOL. He was licking his chops all week. Look at the game stats. between JG and Bennett and then consider the plays Bennett made with his legs. I believe you should just read posts on VN and never post on your own so you do not look silly.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I think that Kirby has put Georgia in a really bad position as far as qb is concerned. I can't believe he was not able to get or keep a quaterback with the talent that team has. At this point I think he would take JG in a heartbeat. I think Alabubba beats Georgia with Bennett at qb.
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The dude with a stable of 5 stars has resorted to the most average QB of all time in Jake Fromm and a crappy game manager walk on who can scrape by and let their defense win games.

This is the guy we are supposed to be emulating.

Kind of shocked at the state of delerium that loss has put some people on this forum into.
 
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rikberry31 said:
Actually JG throws a good deep ball, its the shorter throws that he struggles witrh.
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No he doesn't:
in terms of accuracy rate, he actually ranks last among FBS quarterbacks with at least 160 pass attempts that traveled 10 or more yards since 2018. He has, however, taken very good care of the football. Since 2018, his turnover-worthy play rate ranks 11th of 90 FBS quarterbacks.

You want it to be true because he has a handful good passes in his career, but on a whole he's terrible at actually hitting the target beyond 10 yards, and he'd be even worse if guys like Jennings and Callaway weren't such ballhawks.
 
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hog88 said:
Pruitt is getting 5 seasons but can you agree that after his 5th season if he hasn’t gotten a W over GA, FL or Bama he needs to go?
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If he’s 0-15 against the big 3, absolutely. I know the other day sucked, but I think we’re better now than at any point of the previous 3 seasons. I think the first half scoreboard tells us that.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
The dude with a stable of 5 stars has resorted to the most average QB of all time in Jake Fromm and a crappy game manager walk on who can scrape by and let their defense win games.

This is the guy we are supposed to be emulating.

Kind of shocked at the state of delerium that loss has put some people on this forum into.
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I agree totally, Kirby really botched his qb room. As far as the forum, a lot of unrealistic and delusional people on here. They remind me of my wiife's fandom, she doesn't really undstand what she is watching and screams louder than anyone else. I was really excited to watch the defense. We threw the ball away four times on offense, you are going to lose every time doing that.
 
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BeardedVol said:
No he doesn't:
in terms of accuracy rate, he actually ranks last among FBS quarterbacks with at least 160 pass attempts that traveled 10 or more yards since 2018. He has, however, taken very good care of the football. Since 2018, his turnover-worthy play rate ranks 11th of 90 FBS quarterbacks.

You want it to be true because he has a handful good passes in his career, but on a whole he's terrible at actually hitting the target beyond 10 yards, and he'd be even worse if guys like Jennings and Callaway weren't such ballhawks.
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He's very good at throwing a particular type of deep ball - a long, arcing 50/50 ball to a WR down the sideline in single coverage. They aren't always caught by the WR, but he almost always places the ball that gives his guy a chance to come up with the catch and minimize the chances of an INT. He's awful at longer throws down the middle of the field, particularly if he tries to drop the ball in between safeties or in between a safety and a corner, because that depends more on reading a defense and proper timing.

I imagine he's really good at these because it's the closest thing to a "practice throw" that can happen in a game. It's usually a one-read play, and he doesn't have to read a defense. He can just instinctively and quickly make the throw, and he's good at it because he doesn't have to think.
 
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BeardedVol said:
No he doesn't:
in terms of accuracy rate, he actually ranks last among FBS quarterbacks with at least 160 pass attempts that traveled 10 or more yards since 2018. He has, however, taken very good care of the football. Since 2018, his turnover-worthy play rate ranks 11th of 90 FBS quarterbacks.

You want it to be true because he has a handful good passes in his career, but on a whole he's terrible at actually hitting the target beyond 10 yards, and he'd be even worse if guys like Jennings and Callaway weren't such ballhawks.
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I don't want anything true. Truth is JG had good 1st half.
Truth is Georgia has back ups that will be drafted.
Truth is JG struggles with reading blitzes especially the exotic ones Georgia was throwing at him. The crazy blitz in the second half were the story. You are not objective. You act like JG is one of your exes that dumped you, you take it real personal.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I don't want anything true. Truth is JG had good 1st half.
Truth is Georgia has back ups that will be drafted.
Truth is JG struggles with reading blitzes especially the exotic ones Georgia was throwing at him. The crazy blitz in the second half were the story. You are not objective. You act like JG is one of your exes that dumped you, you take it real personal.
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Lol, I don't even put the Georgia game on JG, it was a complete failure of the offense from the players to the coaches.

You've let your personal attraction to JG the person, get in your way of actually evaluating JG the QB.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Lol, I don't even put the Georgia game on JG, it was a complete failure of the offense from the players to the coaches.

You've let your personal attraction to JG the person, get in your way of actually evaluating JG the QB.
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I have not liked JG since the Spring Game of his freshman year. I almost threw up when spun like a hot dog around before his throw in Butch's throw it in the trash can drill. I respect him for his toughness but he is headcase. I personally hoped JTS would work out. He has the best arm on the team.
Obviously, ther is no viable alternative yet. Maybe one of the others will progress enough to take over. There is a lot foolish people on here who think Channey is trotting out JG while he has better options, that is delusional and they don't know what they are talking about.
 
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Its funny we talk about Smart inheriting a 10 win team lets be clear nobody on this board took GEORGIA seriously on this board when richt was there they were never really ever title contenders they jus beat the people they were suppose to beat....when smart took over there were terrible on the offensive and defensive line that was the difference between them and the elite teams
Kirby by 2018 took the team talent point total from 872 to 963.87 with a #3 class and a #1 class. That is an improvement of 91.87 points (we now sit at 991.53).

Pruitt from 2018-2020 has gone from 825.70 to 842.87 over , or an improvement of 17.17, with a #13 class and a #10 class.

They are much improved on the field, because Pruitt can in fact coach. And it is true that Kirby did start with more talent, but he then took the talent level through the roof. UTK three years in is not yet where UGA was in terms of total talent when CKS took over, and has been losing ground. Classes rated tenth or thirteenth without an elite QB don't often compete for titles, either in this league or nationally. Maybe they will turn that, and they are certainly in it with us for a lot of guys per R/J/K, but CFB is in large part about the jimmy's and the joe's. The last two weeks have been about that big time in our games. If they don't narrow the gap in talent, they very well may pick us off once in a while, but in most games they will be in it for a half, and then the end result will look like Saturday.
 
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KB5252 said:
I'm not sure we are closing the gap. We don't do that until this team can exceed expectations and compete with the big boys and win one here and there. We are finally living up to the potential of the roster but that isn't enough in this league to close the gap.
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We are closing the gap slowly: bama and uga are top 3 the last 5 years. Our average has went up from low to mid teens to top 13, so that closes it a bit.

If we can get into the top 6-7 for a few years, then we can compete against anyone.
 
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Vol_from_86 said:
Kirby isn’t afraid to change QBs when the guy on the field isn’t playing at a championship level.
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If you think Bennett is playing at a "championship level" you need to see an optometrist. JG is a better QB than Bennett. Neither are QBs that are difference makers in games, but JG is better. Had Bennett been the Vols QB Saturday, we would not have had an offensive score.
 
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BeardedVol said:
No he doesn't:
in terms of accuracy rate, he actually ranks last among FBS quarterbacks with at least 160 pass attempts that traveled 10 or more yards since 2018. He has, however, taken very good care of the football. Since 2018, his turnover-worthy play rate ranks 11th of 90 FBS quarterbacks.

You want it to be true because he has a handful good passes in his career, but on a whole he's terrible at actually hitting the target beyond 10 yards, and he'd be even worse if guys like Jennings and Callaway weren't such ballhawks.
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He’s pretty terrible at everything honestly. Sometimes he will throw a pretty deep ball. His screen passes in the past have been throw at the speed of light.
 
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OklahomaDawg said:
Pruitt isn’t “great” at this point but you obviously have forgotten the weak ass staff Butch hired and his horrendous roster managing. That’s how you go from 9 wins one season to getting shitcanned the next like he did in 2017.
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That team got Richt fired and honestly we were absurdly lucky to win that game. The team that beat us last night is an NC contender.
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None of this has made of case of why Pruitt is better than Butch. That year was also a 9 win season and we were a td drive away from beating Alabama, Florida, and Oklahoma. Do you think we are anywhere close to doing that against Bama or Florida this year? It’s fine if you still like him or have faith in him but it’s odd when people act like he’s unquestionably better than the last mediocre head coach we fired.
 
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