The Deportation of Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia

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NashVol11 said:
Without due process, there's nothing stopping the government from saying any of us is illegal and putting us on a plane. Or "aiding and abetting terrorists" because you don't support deporting college protestors (or on the flip side, because you don't condemn January 6)
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What due process was he not given? He actually had a deportation order (prior process) that was stayed, and he had other processes he could have potentially used but didn't.
 
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hog88 said:
Just an immigration judge and no jury would be involved so no, it wouldn't amount to a conviction in any sense of the word.
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Finding that to be true and sufficient cause for punishment (deportation) is exactly tantamount to a conviction.
 
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just bob said:
Trump asks, Bukele sits back and laughs Scarface style and says nah bro. That should be the end of their crying, right? Of course not. haha
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If we actually asked and meant it, El Salvador would not say no to us. Very easy for us to pressure them to give him back, and it likely wouldn't even take pressure

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NashVol11 said:
If we actually asked and meant it, El Salvador would not say no to us. Very easy for us to pressure them to give him back, and it likely wouldn't even take pressure
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Why would the U.S. ask to return a person that has been determined to be an illegal in the country, and than successful ejected?
 
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NashVol11 said:
Without due process, there's nothing stopping the government from saying any of us is illegal and putting us on a plane. Or "aiding and abetting terrorists" because you don't support deporting college protestors (or on the flip side, because you don't condemn January 6)

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That's insane.
 
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NashVol11 said:
If we actually asked and meant it, El Salvador would not say no to us. Very easy for us to pressure them to give him back, and it likely wouldn't even take pressure
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Do you know who Bukele is? What do you want to see Trump do, ask "And mean it"? That's it? Why do you want to waste more tax dollars on this pos?
 
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NashVol11 said:
9-0 decision from the highest court in the land is more than enough reason
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That dealt with the immigration deportation order bro, it has nothing to do with how he was ejected i.e. AEA. See Trump v J.G.G.

He was ejected via AEA, what the court is saying is he is entitled to due process in the immigration case but the only controversy there is destination but he has already been deported, so now that court lack any real authority.
 
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just bob said:
Do you know who Bukele is? What do you want to see Trump do, ask "And mean it"? That's it? Why do you want to waste more tax dollars on this pos?
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You honestly believe we, a global superpower, have no power to make El Salvador do whatever we want them to? We are wasting taxpayer dollars leaving him there AND openly defying the Supreme Court on top of that
 
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NashVol11 said:
You honestly believe we, a global superpower, have no power to make El Salvador do whatever we want them to? We are wasting taxpayer dollars leaving him there AND openly defying the Supreme Court on top of that
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The Supreme Court said the lower court most likely will not have authority to order anything. The three Stooges is a problem because they are idiots. You have a reading problem.
 
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NashVol11 said:
You honestly believe we, a global superpower, have no power to make El Salvador do whatever we want them to? We are wasting taxpayer dollars leaving him there AND openly defying the Supreme Court on top of that
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That's really your position? We need to "Bully" other countries into sending us their own citizens at our whim? Woooooooowwwwww.. Even when they are exactly where they belong? Also, do you know who Bukele is and what he did to clean up El Salvador? Doesn't seem like you do.
 
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