The Crazy Thing No One is Considering: Frost is Still Available

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Florida's top candidate after Chip Kelly rejected them was Scott Frost. Frost refused to interview till after the conference championship game on Saturday. Florida saw that Tennessee was interviewing Dan Mullen, panicked, and hired him immediately in fear that Tennessee would land him first. Then Tennessee panics and inexplicably tries to hire Greg Schiano.

But the crazy thing ... Frost is still out there and we now have a better chance at landing him. And the competition is now weaker with Florida out of the field. Of course, Currie seems dead-set on panicking, but if he'd actually slow down and have some patience, he has a chance to sell a generational talent coach on the University of Tennessee.

The idea that Frost to Nebraska is a done deal is hogwash. Nebraska is the toughest "prestige program" job in the nation. It's a nightmare to recruit there. There's no blue chip talent in Nebraska. There's no blue chip talent in any states neighboring Nebraska. The closest markets for blue chip talent are Chicago (not that great) which is over 500 miles away and Dallas (pretty good) which is over 600 miles away. Nebraska made a huge mistake moving into the Big 10 as it's also made Texas more difficult to recruit for them, so they have to rely on weaker Big 10 recruiting grounds.

Meanwhile, Tennessee is producing more and more blue chip talent every year. We have top 3 facilities in the nation. Knoxville is within 200 miles of one of the top 3 recruiting markets (Atlanta) and is also nearby other great recruiting areas (Virginia, North Carolina) where it has a competitive advantage. Fan support is incredible. The Tennessee job is one of the best in the nation. A great coach at Tennessee can bring in top 5 recruiting classes annually and regularly compete for a national title, whereas Nebraska struggles to bring in top 25 classes even with good coaches (like Bo Pelini.) Even Derek Dooley (a terrible recruiter) got top 25 classes at Tennessee.

Many coaches have said that Scott Frost is more pragmatic than people realize. He'd consider jobs like Florida and Tennessee over Nebraska. I didn't think we had a chance because he'd pick Florida over us (he's already recruiting there), but with Florida out of the picture, suddenly Scott Frost may actually be a more realistic possibility.

I know ... I'm dreaming, because Currie is a Jimmy Haslam puppet who wants to make a panic hire rather than take his time to get the hire right. Currie wants to bring in "his guy" rather than sell a truly great coach on being here. But this would actually be a potentially golden opportunity for a competent AD. Tennessee is now the best job available and Scott Frost is still out there.
 
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I could get on board with this. The question is can Frost resist the call of what Coach Bryant called "Momma"?
 
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Frost to Nebraska.

And for sake of argument, even if not the case, why would he torpedo his career and sign on to the mess that is Tennessee.
 
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I mean no one is even going to know who their boss is for crying out loud.

Currie and who knows how many others will lose their job over this.

It’s a train wreck
 
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99gator said:
Frost to Nebraska.

And for sake of argument, even if not the case, why would he torpedo his career and sign on to the mess that is Tennessee.
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Because he has a better chance of winning at Tennessee...? Like OP said, Nebraska doesn't have the resources Tennessee has.
 
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I just saw Chris Low's take on ESPN.
Surprisingly, he was very measured in his brief discussion. He stated the facts of what happened and explained why we protested. He didn't bury Schiano or UT fans.
 
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I would love Scott Frost as HC. I don't see him choosing us over Nebraska, but at the same time we'd be foolish not to at least try.
 
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bhouston79 said:
I would love Scott Frost as HC. I don't see him choosing us over Nebraska, but at the same time we'd be foolish not to at least try.
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I'd say we have better odds than people think, but Nebraska would still be the favorite. Still, money and resources are important. If Frost visited UT, saw the facilities, saw everything in Knoxville, I think he'd realize that Tennessee is a much easier sell to top talent than Nebraska.

But you're right ... we're foolish not to try. Unfortunately, Currie is dead-set on hiring as quick as possible, rather than waiting till the conference championships games are played and doing a full coaching search. It's also why he's probably not considering Norvell ... he'd have to wait a whole 6 days for him to become available. This is the absolute worst of short-term thinking. Hire the right coach ... don't worry about the recruiting class.
 
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ukvols said:
Thank you.

I like an outsider who blames this leadership instead of taking an easy shot at our fans.
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Well, it’s not a one time deal. Look at every program at the school.

And with all the people out there to pick, you find a guy that damn near starts a riot.
 
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99gator said:
Frost to Nebraska.

And for sake of argument, even if not the case, why would he torpedo his career and sign on to the mess that is Tennessee.
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That's my concern. Even if Tennessee is now the top job opening, there is suddenly a huge perception problem with the UTAD. Either they were mind-bogglingly off on reading the room or the AD is not the man in charge. And when something this embarrassing takes place on a national stage, there has to be a lot of turmoil left in its wake inside the Athletic Dept.


Edit: Oops, looks like you kinda covered that in your next post. My refresh hand is slow.
 
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As for my voice. No on Frost.

You have to prove more than he has in my opinion.

He has certainly done a fine job in his time at Central Florida but and he "seems" the part but this is another potential Butch Jones and we can't take the risk with a person who has such a short resume.

Tennessee needs to make a fair amount of splash with this hire or we will wallow in mediocrity for another 5 years.
 
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pismonque said:
That's my concern. Even if Tennessee is now the top job opening, there is suddenly a huge perception problem with the UTAD. Either they were mind-bogglingly off on reading the room or the AD is not the man in charge. And when something this embarrassing takes place on a national stage, there has to be a lot of turmoil left in its wake inside the Athletic Dept.
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The problem is it’s not a “perception problem”. That **** is real.
 
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VolnTEARS? said:
As for my voice. No on Frost.

You have to prove more than he has in my opinion.

He has certainly done a fine job in his time at Central Florida but and he "seems" the part but this is another potential Butch Jones and we can't take the risk with a person who has such a short resume.

Tennessee needs to make a fair amount of splash with this hire or we will wallow in mediocrity for another 5 years.
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For sake of argument, if you could get him, you should get down on your knees and thank the lord for his kindness and mercy.

But, he’s going to Nebraska
 
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