The coaching was good enough to win!

[TNnative]

Jones has always tossed the kicker out there when its clear he isnt very good from distance. At least he tried a different kicker this time.

Well, like I said, if we weren't making long field goal tries all day long because of whatever bogs down the offense, this issue would not be so magnified. Not like Florida's defense was all that good, our offense was just poorly focused.

 

[BTS]

Well then who you hiring big guy? All I was saying is it has and surely could be worse. I wanna win it all too you know. You aren't the only one who wants to win. So who you got? I agree with the guy on here who wrote the fans should be able to pick for a couple years and see how they do. It's so easy to ***** about what someone else did even if you yourself would have done the same thing. Shoop ring any bells? Great hire EVERYBODY said, how you like him now?
Guys we were an after thought for a few years, now we're getting back into the top 25 (not where we want but a damn site better than we were), still recruiting well and CBJ should be learning a few things along the way.Are you SURE you want to go down this road again and count on the AD to hire the savior?

Wasnt trying to start an argument . I just get tired of hearing the old stability argument. I remember seeing people say the same thing about dooley that if we fired him that it would set us back . It didn't because dooley sucked LOL . With that said i not sure their is a homerun hire out there. I also dont think Jones is ever going to get us where we want to be . I think its better to try to improve with another coach rather than still be having this same talk another year from now.

 

[TienesayFayan]

Coaching decisions are worse than any of those. Players make mistakes all the time. It's the coaches, the PROFESSIONALLY PAID millionaires that shouldn't be making the same mistakes in year 5 that they made in year 1. Butch is a joke.

What coaching decisions? The ONE play from the one yard line is the ONLY play call questionable.

 

[Chad F]

GO VOLS! I love this team too much to let my frustrations with the coaches get me down. Plus, I've got enough Jack Daniels to numb any pain that might arise.

 

[BTS]

What coaching decisions? The ONE play from the one yard line is the ONLY play call questionable.

What about Jones clock management. We ran 3 plays and kicked a field goal from the 9 yard line on the last drive . We had 3 timeouts left and they had 2 left . i think all 4 of the those plays took like 20 seconds off the clock . You have to run the ball at least once to drain the clock and or force them to burn a time out. It would be better to run 2 running plays to drain the clock or it makes them burn both of their timeouts . you still have one to run whatever you want to for the go head win if not you kick the field goal and tie the game. You have taken time off the clock that you didn't throwing 3 incomplete passes and the opposing team has no timeouts. every coach in America understands this from peewee to pro football. well except ******** JONES

 

[IPleadInsanity]

While I admit that the coaches have plenty of room for improvement, they did a good enough job to get the W. At some point players have to make the plays they're brought here to make. As good as John Kelly played, he has to make that catch for the go ahead TD. Josh palmer also had a pass go right through his hands for a TD. Abernathy has to stay deeper than the deepest, its just that simple, you know it, I know it, and he knows it. The FG kickers have to make some FG's. Like I said, the coaches have plenty of room for improvement but lets not act like they didn't put the players in position to win the game multiple times.

Its the agonizing way the game was lost and not scoring 1st and g from the 1/2 yard line that has people upset. Why can't we cover the Hail Mary type play, even if it was for 20 yards to prevent the field goal? If you want to stay employed you have to find a better way to lose.

 

[17Vols]

While I admit that the coaches have plenty of room for improvement, they did a good enough job to get the W. At some point players have to make the plays they're brought here to make. As good as John Kelly played, he has to make that catch for the go ahead TD. Josh palmer also had a pass go right through his hands for a TD. Abernathy has to stay deeper than the deepest, its just that simple, you know it, I know it, and he knows it. The FG kickers have to make some FG's. Like I said, the coaches have plenty of room for improvement but lets not act like they didn't put the players in position to win the game multiple times.

After watching Greg McElroy breakdown the goal line series, I kinda agree.
Still doesn't make me feel any better though.

 

[17Vols]

But then again, how is it possible that in our entire offensive playbook we don't have a single package where the QB lines up under center?? A package that we can run a sneak, run the back, or a play action pass? Maybe roll out the QB on an RPO?

 

[Vol Catdaddy]

I don't get a lot of u guys! Let me just say this 3 red zone attempts 9 pass plays! Let that sink in. Better yet what would CPF or cut in that situation! I will wait for your answer.

 

[ericberry4heisman]

While I admit that the coaches have plenty of room for improvement, they did a good enough job to get the W. At some point players have to make the plays they're brought here to make. As good as John Kelly played, he has to make that catch for the go ahead TD. Josh palmer also had a pass go right through his hands for a TD. Abernathy has to stay deeper than the deepest, its just that simple, you know it, I know it, and he knows it. The FG kickers have to make some FG's. Like I said, the coaches have plenty of room for improvement but lets not act like they didn't put the players in position to win the game multiple times.

The players made some mistakes. Florida's players made just as many. But ANYONE that thinks the "coaching was good enough to win" is clueless.

 

[TVOL71]

While I admit that the coaches have plenty of room for improvement, they did a good enough job to get the W. At some point players have to make the plays they're brought here to make. As good as John Kelly played, he has to make that catch for the go ahead TD. Josh palmer also had a pass go right through his hands for a TD. Abernathy has to stay deeper than the deepest, its just that simple, you know it, I know it, and he knows it. The FG kickers have to make some FG's. Like I said, the coaches have plenty of room for improvement but lets not act like they didn't put the players in position to win the game multiple times.

The problem with the coaches is that they did not do a good job of utilizing the talent they had on offense. By the second half the OLine was performing well and Kelly was doing great, should have run in the red zone. On D, on the last play they made a similar mistake to what they did against GA last year, and apparently did not learn from that play. Yes, there were some problems attributable to the players, but the coaches play calling was a big issue.

 

[BigC]

Florida is trash and they were missing key players. Losing this game, even on the road, was a giant failure. Of course we were in position to win. Why was Florida in position to win?

Ummm...because we also had key players out DK, TK, EB...not to mention JJ
Yes the out come sucked but we had the chance to win and didn't execute we had a few bad play calls yes but over all execution fell short...We as fans have to do like the players are doing put it behind us and support the players and coches!!!

 

[Vol@PennState]

Don't you guys feel that a lot of the coaching decisions that seem ridiculous were actually caused by execution issues?

For example, we get first and goal from the 9 at the end. Scott has a play in his pocket he knows will work. JK against a linebacker, and he's been abusing them. They get exactly what they want, and it should be a walk in touchdown. But the execution fails, and now you have 2nd and goal from the 9. We run another good play on 2nd down that we'd expect Callaway to come down with 8 times out of 10. Through his hands. 3rd down we have to go for the TD.

I guarantee you that if we run twice after 1st down like all the hindsight prophets want and get stuffed, then lose in OT, all the critics would be saying, "Same old conservative Butch cost us another game! You gotta go for the win there!"

Same thing happened on the earlier goal line failure. 1st and goal at the 1, and Jack Jones flinches early. Then Dormady hits Palmer in the hands and he drops it. Now it's 2nd and goal from the 6. Maybe we should've run it here, but again it's execution. You've got single coverage in the slot and Palmer HAS to get inside.

tl;dr: The execution issues on actually decent play calls are what necessitated the frustrating lack of JK runs in the red zone.

 

[JoAllan]

Maybe it was maybe it was not. Tennessee has been built back, we have talent, speed and size; however we still loose to unranked teams, and lose most of the ranked games.......that is coaching. If you can not develop your players, win the games you should, and win some you should not, after a while it is off the players and off the situation, and becomes the fault of the coaches. This is no longer year 1 or 3. Butch has done a great job of getting us back, but he can never EVER get us to a consistent 10+...........and Tennessee is ready to win 10+ on a yearly basis (bad years being 8 or 9.....not the good years).

 

[djohnnyg]

Many would argue we've dominated the last 4 years and only won once. That's what we are tired of. It's not just this game that is pissing people off.

YES. Now we have to wait a whole year for redemption. It's a crucial season defining game.....and saps the life out of the rest of the season. And Butch has lost 3 of the 4...and should have won ALL of them. That should not be tolerated. It wouldn't be anywhere else where winning is important. Disappointing to hear the new AD excusing it.

It's obvious that Currie is ok with losing as long as our boys "fight". Pffft.

 

[gobigorange91]

We should have beaten this team just as badly as we beat them last year. The one game he has beaten a halfway decent team badly was Florida last year. He shouldn't be beating these teams by close scores. We should be curb stomping them.

 

[KingtUT]

The players made some mistakes. Florida's players made just as many. But ANYONE that thinks the "coaching was good enough to win" is clueless.

Lol. Hi, i'm "clueless", nice to meet you.

Now look at there, "clueless" and "insert insulting name here" are now friends!

 

[photovol]

While I admit that the coaches have plenty of room for improvement, they did a good enough job to get the W. At some point players have to make the plays they're brought here to make. As good as John Kelly played, he has to make that catch for the go ahead TD. Josh palmer also had a pass go right through his hands for a TD. Abernathy has to stay deeper than the deepest, its just that simple, you know it, I know it, and he knows it. The FG kickers have to make some FG's. Like I said, the coaches have plenty of room for improvement but lets not act like they didn't put the players in position to win the game multiple times.

Thank You Mrs. Jones

 

[KingtUT]

Thank You Mrs. Jones

I find it hilarious that people get tore up about someone saying the coaches and the players are to blame for losing.