The Case For Coach Pruitt

#51
#51
We’re really in the same spot we were gonna be in anyway with Pruitt- waiting to see how 2021 goes. Had we beaten UK & ARK to go 5-5, we’d still question whether Pruitt is the one to get us over the hump.

IMO, most of the criticism of CJP is fair and well-deserved. However, we all knew it would be 4 years before we could reasonably make a change, given the AD’s financial situation, how badly the roster needed upgrading, etc.

Not to mention we’re already seen as a toxic environment by a wide majority of coaches. Giving Pruitt the hook after Year 3 would mean we can say goodbye to landing the elite coaches we should’ve pursued post-Dooley. Too quick on the trigger.
 
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sjsmith87 said:
We’re really in the same spot we were gonna be in anyway with Pruitt- waiting to see how 2021 goes. Had we beaten UK & ARK to go 5-5, we’d still question whether Pruitt is the one to get us over the hump.

IMO, most of the criticism of CJP is fair and well-deserved. However, we all knew it would be 4 years before we could reasonably make a change, given the AD’s financial situation, how badly the roster needed upgrading, etc.

Not to mention we’re already seen as a toxic environment by a wide majority of coaches. Giving Pruitt the hook after Year 3 would mean we can say goodbye to landing the elite coaches we should’ve pursued post-Dooley. Too quick on the trigger.
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Hopefully out of the blue CJP will quit.
 
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Vol8188 said:
2017 class-2 remaining blue chip players (Smith and Chandler). Obviously this was due to horrible recruiting by CBJ.

2018 class-4 remaining blue chip players (Banks, Emerson, Taylor, and Carvin). Not entirely his fault because he didn’t have long to put the class together.

2019 class- First full cycle and 10 blue chip players remain on the team (Darnel, Henry T, Wanya, Crouch, Jaylen M, Tyus Field, Gray, Harrison, Keyton, Lampley).

2020 class- 14 blue chip players remain on the team.

This isn’t counting multiple blue chip transfers such as Mays. Seems like he has 100% improved the roster. Granted I still worry about his to coach and his ability to hire coaches
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No development. Hard pass
 
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Acuna_Matata said:
No development. Hard pass
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Isn’t it pretty normal for sophomores to not develop? It’s so common there’s a phrase for it, sophomore slump. He seemed to get the most out of a lot of guys who hadn’t done much for CBJ in 2019
 
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photovol said:
To win consistently in the SEC , teams must have players that are bound for the NFL and Tennessee doesn’t currently have many NFL type players.
When Tennessee was a force in the SEC, they were loaded with NFL talent
It is what it is, either get the players or continue to be a bottom feeder
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Just another opinion but the talent is coming in. It is not being coached up and improved. Tenn is not getting players drafted, but they probably lead all of CFB in the # of UFAs. When Tenn players get an opportunity to get into an NFL camp the talent shows and they are signed
 
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Vol8188 said:
The case is simple. He lacks talent in the upper class and it’s not really his fault, but he’s significantly improved the roster since taking over.
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The coaching is worse than Butch Jones coaching if that's even possible.
 
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hog88 said:
On paper he has but the results on the field where it matters he has not.
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I agree but how much of that is due to the lack of upper class men talent? That part I can’t blame him as much for.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I agree but how much of that is due to the lack of upper class men talent? That part I can’t blame him as much for.
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I would say hardly none is due to lack of upper class talent. Our upperclassmen (on paper) are better than GA State, BYU, KY, AR and Vandy and not 20 plus points worse than UF and UGA.
 
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I cant defend Jeremy Pruitt and im sure he gives two craps what we think anyways. But you dont lose to the teams he has by the way hes has.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Idk if judging any coach off the production of sophomores is what we should be going after. And I agree staff changes are a must. Not playing Chandler made 0 sense to me
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Actually not playing Chandler seemed like the smart move. Just an average RB with no wiggle whatsoever. Should have been Gray, Small/Beckwith.
 
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Vol8188 said:
2017 class-2 remaining blue chip players (Smith and Chandler). Obviously this was due to horrible recruiting by CBJ.

2018 class-4 remaining blue chip players (Banks, Emerson, Taylor, and Carvin). Not entirely his fault because he didn’t have long to put the class together.

2019 class- First full cycle and 10 blue chip players remain on the team (Darnel, Henry T, Wanya, Crouch, Jaylen M, Tyus Field, Gray, Harrison, Keyton, Lampley).

2020 class- 14 blue chip players remain on the team.

This isn’t counting multiple blue chip transfers such as Mays. Seems like he has 100% improved the roster. Granted I still worry about his to coach and his ability to hire coaches
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If you have to “make the case” for him to stay, there is no case. Dont let recruiting distract you from the disaster on the field.
 
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DownNDirty said:
The case for Pruitt.......

Only needing a win over a mediocre Missouri team or woefully bad Vandy team in year one Gomer's team is blown out 50-17 at home versus Missouri then goes to Nashville and is beaten down 38-13.

Year two, he only "practices" for the Georgia State game a couple of days with no real gameplan for them thinking it will be a cakewalk. Not only was it not a cakewalk, his team loses 38-30. Georgia State has 213 rushing yards to Tennessee's 93. Georgia State was up 38-23 until Tennessee scored a garbage time TD with 2 seconds to go. Then, the next week, Gomer's team loses to BYU 29-26.

Year three, get obliterated by a crappy Kentucky team at home 34-7. Get beaten by first year coach Sam Pittman's Arkansas team who was 0fer the SEC for the previous couple of years until this year.

Then a couple of stats that makes a definitive case for Pruitt - for his firing:

Tennessee did not score in the 2nd half from 2:52 left in Q3 vs Bama until 4:07 left in Q4 vs Auburn. That would be 73 minutes and 45 seconds between 2nd half scores for Tennessee.

Tennessee only has beaten four Division 1 teams by 21+ points in 3 years - in 2018 he beat a 1-11 UTEP team 24-0. In 2019 beat 9-5 UAB 30-7. This year beat a coach in his first ever game at Missouri who finished 5-5 35-12 and beat an 0-9 Vandy team that fielded about 37 players and a female kicker 42-17. Biggest win over a D1 team ever against the worst Vandy fielded squad in history.

Pruitt led Vols teams have been beaten by 21+ points 13 times in his tenure so far making him statistically the worst coach in the SEC in that category in many, many years. Worse than the likes of Joker Phillips. Worse than Houston Nutt at Ole Miss. Even Curley Hallman at LSU - who was a complete trainwreck and dumpster fire - only lost 7 games by 21+ points in his first 3 years.

There's no way IMO it can be argued that he should be retained because all retaining him does is set the entire program back another year for an even harder rebuild for the next coach. This guy's got to go.
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Preach!
 
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#68
"Improved the roster"

...goes 3-7

WHAAAAT? Look at the games, not stars beside names. He is ONE HUNDRED points worse than Dooley after 3 years. Beat that case.
 
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DownNDirty said:
The case for Pruitt.......

Only needing a win over a mediocre Missouri team or woefully bad Vandy team in year one Gomer's team is blown out 50-17 at home versus Missouri then goes to Nashville and is beaten down 38-13.

Year two, he only "practices" for the Georgia State game a couple of days with no real gameplan for them thinking it will be a cakewalk. Not only was it not a cakewalk, his team loses 38-30. Georgia State has 213 rushing yards to Tennessee's 93. Georgia State was up 38-23 until Tennessee scored a garbage time TD with 2 seconds to go. Then, the next week, Gomer's team loses to BYU 29-26.

Year three, get obliterated by a crappy Kentucky team at home 34-7. Get beaten by first year coach Sam Pittman's Arkansas team who was 0fer the SEC for the previous couple of years until this year.

Then a couple of stats that makes a definitive case for Pruitt - for his firing:

Tennessee did not score in the 2nd half from 2:52 left in Q3 vs Bama until 4:07 left in Q4 vs Auburn. That would be 73 minutes and 45 seconds between 2nd half scores for Tennessee.

Tennessee only has beaten four Division 1 teams by 21+ points in 3 years - in 2018 he beat a 1-11 UTEP team 24-0. In 2019 beat 9-5 UAB 30-7. This year beat a coach in his first ever game at Missouri who finished 5-5 35-12 and beat an 0-9 Vandy team that fielded about 37 players and a female kicker 42-17. Biggest win over a D1 team ever against the worst Vandy fielded squad in history.

Pruitt led Vols teams have been beaten by 21+ points 13 times in his tenure so far making him statistically the worst coach in the SEC in that category in many, many years. Worse than the likes of Joker Phillips. Worse than Houston Nutt at Ole Miss. Even Curley Hallman at LSU - who was a complete trainwreck and dumpster fire - only lost 7 games by 21+ points in his first 3 years.

There's no way IMO it can be argued that he should be retained because all retaining him does is set the entire program back another year for an even harder rebuild for the next coach. This guy's got to go.
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And there it is. Pretty simple. The blue chippers that OP mentioned should be mopping the floor with less talented teams by now, yet they aren't. That's all coaching. We have talent but it isn't being utilized.
 
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If I recall correctly, didn’t Jennings call for a players only team meeting last year after Georgia state? He prob chewed their arses out. We don’t have any leaders like that on this team. We have some who would follow the domino effect, but no players who are willing to initiate it. I get that it is Pruitt’s job, but the team needs players to step up and lead too, all great teams do.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It’s very unlikely that CJP could win this fan base back.
He’s just done too much damage to ever be liked.
I believe past performance is an indication of things to come but not a absolute prediction. It’s more likely, judging from the past the CJP will lose more games he should win than win more games he should lose. I think because of money CJP gets another year and sadly I think next years standard is making a bowl game.

So I’m left hoping he figures out how to coach while expecting him not too as that’s the quickest return to winning.
The rest of me realizes that the administration is terrible at hiring so the next guy is likely just as big a project.
The whole situation is sad.


Go Vols.
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Oh he’ll win the fans over if the team wins, if not he’ll be done. One good season and the fans will turn so quick there will be an epidemic of whiplash.
 
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Did all of you know that Coach Pruitt has only been a HEAD FOOTBALL COACH in ONE place? Thats right. The Tennessee job is the FIRST head coaching position in his LIFE! That's right. THIS is his on-the-job training. He is not up to managing head coach position of an SEC school. Heck, we aren't sure he could manage HC at Hoover HS. Be gone buddy. We have made you a multi-millionaire.. Enuf
 
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