The case against Pruitt

#51
#51
why do this? we can create a why *** is not the answer for anyone they decide to hire.

We need to look ahead and be happy it's not a coach that we'd end up paying more for but would bomb worse - like some currie was talking to

also, don't believe everything you hear... Leach and Brohm weren't close to being a possibility
 
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djohnnyg said:
So how many head coaching jobs did Kirby Smart have before taking his team to the BCS playoffs at Georgia ? Oh...was he the DC at Alabama too? Horrible idea and Georgia is obviously paying dearly for it.
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The new coach MUST have prior head coaching experience in order to be successful. Just like Lyle.
 
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VolsFreak18 said:
Sorry but Mark Richt, Nick Saban, and Jumbo Fisher were recruiting those classes. Most recruits could careless if a coordinator leave a school but if the HC leaves you see recruits almost immediately open up their recruitment.
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Actually, the coordinators and position coaches "recruit" the players and then the head coach comes in a "closes" the recruit. It is a combination of the entire staff not just the head coach.
 
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Pruitt is crooked as hell when it comes to recruiting. That said I think he's a better option than Steele or tucker. I guess devinner will be welcome back on campus if we get Pruitt in? Seriously though I'd rather be good for a while then go on probation then to suck with those other two coaches. Expect Tennessee recruiting to take the next step in a few years and start having consistent top five classes if we hire Pruitt.
 
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MR_VOL said:
Just because Miss St passed on Pruitt does not make him a bad coach or a bad hire. There are numerous reasons why Miss St went for a different coach.......[1] the AD maybe an Offensive guy, [2] the AD may have wanted certain coaches retained, [3] the AD may have given Pruitt a "courtesy interview" just to get Pruitt's opinion as to why Miss St defense is pitiful, [4] Pruitt may have demanded more money, [5] Pruitt may have wanted more control, [6] there could have been a general or specific disagreement between Pruitt and the AD as to Miss St football and its next step, etc, etc. I can speculate all day, but in the end, who really know why Pruitt wasn't hired other than the Miss St AD.

Regardless, you hire the best person available, and at this time Pruitt is the best coach being mentioned for the UT Head Coaching job.
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Pathetic.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
The only knock I have against him is that he has no HC coaching experience. Some of that "knock" is tempered by the fact he has worked for a group of really good and proven coaches.

Look no the bright side, he doesn't have a losing record as a HC!
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And he will always have Fulmer for advice.
 
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MR_VOL said:
Just because Miss St passed on Pruitt does not make him a bad coach or a bad hire. There are numerous reasons why Miss St went for a different coach.......[1] the AD maybe an Offensive guy, [2] the AD may have wanted certain coaches retained, [3] the AD may have given Pruitt a "courtesy interview" just to get Pruitt's opinion as to why Miss St defense is pitiful, [4] Pruitt may have demanded more money, [5] Pruitt may have wanted more control, [6] there could have been a general or specific disagreement between Pruitt and the AD as to Miss St football and its next step, etc, etc. I can speculate all day, but in the end, who really know why Pruitt wasn't hired other than the Miss St AD.

Regardless, you hire the best person available, and at this time Pruitt is the best coach being mentioned for the UT Head Coaching job.
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My understanding was Pruitt didn't sign the mou because he wanted the Tennessee job.
 
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djohnnyg said:
So how many head coaching jobs did Kirby Smart have before taking his team to the BCS playoffs at Georgia ? Oh...was he the DC at Alabama too? Horrible idea and Georgia is obviously paying dearly for it.
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While I don't subscribe to the idea that just because it worked for one it will work for the other, I do think hiring a coordinator is a good thing. I think a lot of coordinator's taking on their first HC job may be a little more aggressive trying to establish themselves. Could certainly explain why a lot of these guys come in and start winning pretty quickly. Also worth noting our last 3 hires have been sitting head coaches, none of them worked out, so I am more than willing to see if a hungry young coordinator can take us in a new direction.
 
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Pruitt has a ton of experience at the highest level. The guy is a great coordinator and coach. Can he be a great head coach? Nobody knows, just like nobody knew until Dabo or Kirby or Lincoln gave it a shot. Those guys are doing pretty good for first time head coaches.
 
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Bluetic said:
Pathetic.
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You can b!tch, moan, and shake your head all you want, but the fact is, we are in need of a head football coach and of the names being mentioned Pruitt is the best.

Obviously, Pruitt is not your choice nor do I believe Pruitt was anyone's first choice, however, this is where the coaching search has led us. Again, you hire the best available coach..........whether you like it or not, Pruitt is that coach.
 
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papatomany said:
Certainly rather have Pruitt than Steele or Tucker. (And Tucker before Steele.) But I'd rather have Venables over any of them. I want a return to the aggressive defenses I grew up watching at UT. The relevant stat for whether a coach likes to be aggressive is tackles for loss. Sacks, too, of course, but sack totals can be skewed more by one or two great players than TFL can. So, Venables teams have averaged more than 8 TFLs per game for the last several years. Alabama is averaging only 6.7 this year; and Georgia only 6.0 after a 4.7 last year. All of those schools have great players who make plays, but Venables' scheme is the difference. The other thing I like is Venables personality. He's having a ball out there.
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This. I’m surprised by the lack of Venables talk on here. I think that guy is the best coordinator out there. Has built Clemson’s D into one of the best in the country year after year without the help of a defensive minded head coach. Pruitt would be right after Venables though on my list
 
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VolsFreak18 said:
Pruitt is not going to be the answer. I am amazed that people are even trying to defend the guy. He has coached for 3 different college teams, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida State. What do those schools have in common? They almost always have recruiting classes in the top 5. When you are that high up in recruiting and have that much talent coming in just about any coach can look promising. You can just out talent everyone else and look good.

The next thing I have an issue with is him being called a great recruiter. Again, the issue here is he coached at teams that are annually top 5 or at least top 10 in recruiting every year. Just about anyone can go to those schools and bring in a few 5 stars just because of the school. I’m sorry but national recruiting awards are about as meaningful as the Heisman award.

Finally, our problem last year was not on the Defensive side. It was 100% on the offensive side. How many times in the last 10 years have we made the comment “The defense is keeping us in this game”. We have typically had strong defenses but Tennessee has rarely had an elite offense. This is why I don’t understand why we are looking at defensive coordinators. It just seems like it is much harder to hire a great OC and is much easier to hire a great DC. In the SEC you have to play aggressive to survive and generally DCs tend to not be aggressive on the offensive side of the ball. I am just tired of us having a lead and allowing the opponent to get back into the game because we let off the gas pedal.

This hire does not excite me at all in any way. I am already seeing the sunshine pumpers trying to do what they do and build up the coach. I love Tennessee Football and always will no matter how bad it gets. I just think we are looking at Jones/Dooley 2.0 for the next 3 years. It is sickening to think about but because this is the guy Fulmer wants and everyone will give it a chance instead of voicing their displeasure before the hire is made.

Finally, i'll end one the same note as people did with almost every coach last week. If he is such a hot name in the coaching world why did I have to Google him and why were there no rumors of any interview with him at other schools? VolNation doing what it did with Dooley and Jones and that is build them up like they are the next best thing.
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Agree with a lot of what you say, but it wasn't "100% on the offense". D also struggled. I'd say it was at least 70:30, maybe 80:20 but D had issues also.
 
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VolsFreak18 said:
Pruitt is not going to be the answer. I am amazed that people are even trying to defend the guy. He has coached for 3 different college teams, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida State. What do those schools have in common? They almost always have recruiting classes in the top 5. When you are that high up in recruiting and have that much talent coming in just about any coach can look promising. You can just out talent everyone else and look good.

The next thing I have an issue with is him being called a great recruiter. Again, the issue here is he coached at teams that are annually top 5 or at least top 10 in recruiting every year. Just about anyone can go to those schools and bring in a few 5 stars just because of the school. I’m sorry but national recruiting awards are about as meaningful as the Heisman award.

Finally, our problem last year was not on the Defensive side. It was 100% on the offensive side. How many times in the last 10 years have we made the comment “The defense is keeping us in this game”. We have typically had strong defenses but Tennessee has rarely had an elite offense. This is why I don’t understand why we are looking at defensive coordinators. It just seems like it is much harder to hire a great OC and is much easier to hire a great DC. In the SEC you have to play aggressive to survive and generally DCs tend to not be aggressive on the offensive side of the ball. I am just tired of us having a lead and allowing the opponent to get back into the game because we let off the gas pedal.

This hire does not excite me at all in any way. I am already seeing the sunshine pumpers trying to do what they do and build up the coach. I love Tennessee Football and always will no matter how bad it gets. I just think we are looking at Jones/Dooley 2.0 for the next 3 years. It is sickening to think about but because this is the guy Fulmer wants and everyone will give it a chance instead of voicing their displeasure before the hire is made.

Finally, i'll end one the same note as people did with almost every coach last week. If he is such a hot name in the coaching world why did I have to Google him and why were there no rumors of any interview with him at other schools? VolNation doing what it did with Dooley and Jones and that is build them up like they are the next best thing.
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To say defense wasn’t the problem last year proves to me you truly do not know what your talking about. We allowed over 3000 yards rushing in a single season. Worst in college football and worst in school history. One thing that’s important to understand about Pruitt is he will bring the aggressive mindset back to Tennessee. It is said that Fulmer thought the football teams Butch Jones put on the field were too soft. Pruitt will change that. The only defense Pruitt put on the field that I didn’t think had an aggressive mindset was his defenses at Georgia. I think that has a lot to do with Mark Richt. Pruitt could put together an all star staff here at UT and be very successful. Is it a splash hire?? No. But neither was Kirby, Dabo, and Riley.
 
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To the op:

I would love to have a top 5 class every year, which pruitt was a part of and should be able to better deliver than butch.

You had to google him because the only names you know are Saban, kelly, and Gruden. Anyone who follows the sec and alabamas, uga, fsu success knows about Pruitt.
 
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