The bitch thread, what's your beef?

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#652
It blatently praised those who use those terms and justify their actions by saying the essentially classic, "Well they say it" mentality.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
KB5252 said:
Yep, we have had some recent problems in and around Nashville recently as well. Our kids these days just don't seem to be getting it.[/QUOTE]

Understatement of the decade. This is my 5th year as an educator/coach in public schools and I have never seen a more messed up culture of young people.
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How old are these kids? This says a lot to me about the state of affairs in the community at large. Are there tensions in the neighborhoods these kids live in?
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TXVOL07 said:
The latter of the two. It basically was a document that praised the ideology of it "Not being considered Racisim if blacks or other ethnic groups call whites Honkies ect...." It went on to elaborate on all the racial terms that are commonly used towards a broad collection of minority groups. Listing them at one point I might add.


The kid was sent back to class after a mere, "I'm sorry."
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Thats just nuts. Not that jokes would have been appropriate by any means, but that crap is uncalled for. I understand where you're coming from.

My wife is a kindergarten teacher, and, as usual, parents chaperone field trips. The following day at school, one girl told my wife, matter of factly, Miss xxxx, my dad says xxxx is a "Sand *******" Unbelievable.
 
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#656
No, not really. They play like its 1970 still. Play together on Friday nights, but know your role come Saturday morning. And both sides are cool with that. I dont live here nor would I ever due to the nature of the beast.

I teach Freshman in HS so 15-17yrs old.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
No, not really. They play like its 1970 still. Play together on Friday nights, but know your role come Saturday morning. And both sides are cool with that. I dont live here nor would I ever due to the nature of the beast.

I teach Freshman in HS so 15-17yrs old.
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Amazing. I went to high school in south Nashville and for a year or so tensions between black and white students got pretty tense. There were more than a few fights between groups of the two of us at school. A few weeks later we all just got together behind a closed grocery store and had it out with each other. No more problems after that. I even saw a couple of them around up until a few years ago and we were friendly.
 
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#658
It's the mentality and the blatent condonment of said mentality by an AP. I'm not calling for the kids head here, but I feel it is a much larger issue than how it was treated. And the undermining of my personal feelings on the topic by such a brash and unremorsefull statement capitalizes on the entire issue. I know that is a tough job, but we're not too busy to have this dealt with much more extensivly.

I'm damn mad about it....,thats all I can say. I gotta run pretty quick so, thanks for letting me vent.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
It's the mentality and the blatent condonment of said mentality by an AP. I'm not calling for the kids head here, but I feel it is a much larger issue than how it was treated. And the undermining of my personal feelings on the topic by such a brash and unremorsefull statement capitalizes on the entire issue. I know that is a tough job, but we're not too busy to have this dealt with much more extensivly.

I'm damn mad about it....,thats all I can say. I gotta run pretty quick so, thanks for letting me vent.
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No problem.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
It's the mentality and the blatent condonment of said mentality by an AP. I'm not calling for the kids head here, but I feel it is a much larger issue than how it was treated. And the undermining of my personal feelings on the topic by such a brash and unremorsefull statement capitalizes on the entire issue. I know that is a tough job, but we're not too busy to have this dealt with much more extensivly.

I'm damn mad about it....,thats all I can say. I gotta run pretty quick so, thanks for letting me vent.
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at least he was upfront about it and you can deal with those types. It the ones who hide it that are the real problem.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
Allright, so one of my students brings to me a document promoting racism towards virtually every ethnic group and religion. He brought it thinking I would find it humorous. I dont even slightly, so I marked it offensive and gave it to an AP here at school. I told him I found it offensive and said can you take care of this. I was utterly shocked when the student returned with him. The AP asked him to apologize to me and return to class. That was it.

Look I get that the paper was offensive to you but he's a freakin kid. And like someone said he is outwardly angry so thank God for that. It's these maniacal inwardly hostile kids that are the real threat. And if he was trying to impress you or make you laugh or whatever, he clearly is just confused about what is funny. Take a breath and look at it as an opportunity to help him. He clearly likes and trusts you as he brought something inappropriate to you and dropped it at your feet like you would think it was great. If you've ever had a cat bring you a dead bird, squirrel, snake, rat, etc, then you understand that this offering is a compliment. You can't abandon him now. He trusts you and you have the opportunity to teach him and lead him. I know you'll forgive him and do what needs to be done to change his life forever. I still send my highschool/academy teachers Christmas cards, thank God they didn't give up on me. I wasn't a racist but I had boy trouble big time! But I'm a girl, so boys and girls act out differently.

All due respect, you have one of the hardest, most thankless jobs there are, but you have no idea the impression you are making until later. You sound like one of the good ones, don't burn out yet. And don't give up on this kid.
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Thanks for the vent session yesterday. I have a new day ahead and a fresh start with the whole deal. I am putting this one aside as I have determined that my actions towards the situation will have a greater impact on that type of mentality with this young man. I intend on reflecting the morals and standards that all of us should have to him and hope for the best. I'm not making this a personal crusade, however I feel certain that my impact is far greater than those who merely brush this aside. I am going to do my best to be a positive role model for these guys and hope for the best. At the end of the day, that's all I can do. I appreciate those of you who offered sound advice on the matter and wanted to thank you all. Teaching is tough, but I'm in it for the long haul. Afterall, we may gripe from time to time, but we love our jobs, or co-workers, and our students. Sometimes I need to step back and take a breath.

Thanks Nation. This is why I come here.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
Thanks for the vent session yesterday. I have a new day ahead and a fresh start with the whole deal. I am putting this one aside as I have determined that my actions towards the situation will have a greater impact on that type of mentality with this young man. I intend on reflecting the morals and standards that all of us should have to him and hope for the best. I'm not making this a personal crusade, however I feel certain that my impact is far greater than those who merely brush this aside. I am going to do my best to be a positive role model for these guys and hope for the best. At the end of the day, that's all I can do. I appreciate those of you who offered sound advice on the matter and wanted to thank you all. Teaching is tough, but I'm in it for the long haul. Afterall, we may gripe from time to time, but we love our jobs, or co-workers, and our students. Sometimes I need to step back and take a breath.

Thanks Nation. This is why I come here.
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Kidding aside. I hope there are more teachers like you out there. It is a tuff job. I sure I could not handle it.:salute:
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Kidding aside. I hope there are more teachers like you out there. It is a tuff job. I sure I could not handle it.:salute:
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Especially as an English teacher. :)

I taught high school math for two years. I tip my hat to all teachers out there. :hi: It is a tough and often thankless job.
 
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vader said:
Especially as an English teacher. :)

I taught high school math for two years. I tip my hat to all teachers out there. :hi: It is a tough and often thankless job.
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Have you checked out the 50 yrs. of Math thread?
 
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vader said:
Especially as an English teacher. :)

I taught high school math for two years. I tip my hat to all teachers out there. :hi: It is a tough and often thankless job.
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Just another reason I majored in science, actually if I could do it all over, I would take a typing class. However, after a couple of glasses of wine, I cannot see very well...
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Just another reason I majored in science, actually if I could do it all over, I would take a typing class. However, after a couple of glasses of wine, I cannot see very well...
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My senior year of high school, I took typing in lieu of Physics as an elective (they were offered at the same time). The reasoning was that I was coasting through the last semester of my senior year.

After working as an engineer for 10 years (ugh), I made the right decision for the wrong reasons.
 
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If I knew back then that I would be spending 95% of my time on a computer, it would have been a no- brainer. I have 3 computers in my office. By the end of the day, my eyes are drained.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
Understatement of the decade. This is my 5th year as an educator/coach in public schools and I have never seen a more messed up culture of young people.
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my GF teached at public school and took the type of abuse you are refering too. She had multiple parents call her a racist because she gave her kids bad grades whent hey wouldn't do the work. The principle actually asked her if she was a racist rather than having her back. Right she's a racist, that's why she teaches in the inner city. There were lots of incedents that no one seemed to care about. She's been teaching at a catholic school for 2 years and loves it. Private school while it pays less, is a much more enjoyable experience. Kind of sad because she desperately wanted to help these public school kids because they needed her more, but at some point you have to think about your quality of life.
 
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droski said:
my GF teached at public school and took the type of abuse you are refering too. She had multiple parents call her a racist because she gave her kids bad grades whent hey wouldn't do the work. The principle actually asked her if she was a racist rather than having her back. Right she's a racist, that's why she teaches in the inner city. There were lots of incedents that no one seemed to care about. She's been teaching at a catholic school for 2 years and loves it. Private school while it pays less, is a much more enjoyable experience. Kind of sad because she desperately wanted to help these public school kids because they needed her more, but at some point you have to think about your quality of life.
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Maybe she should help you with your spelling and grammar...
 
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