The biggest disappointment...

#77
#77
GAVol said:
I think you completely missed what happened. They didn't quit. They simply did what we were afraid they would do . . . got overcome by the depth of a quality opponent.

I had a coach tell me a couple of weeks ago that where the depth would hurt us most would be on special teams in the 2nd half. Boy was he right.
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Im gonna have to respectfully disagree. When Simms threw that pick 6 the team for the most part quit. I think James got lucky when he broke a tackle and nobody was on the other side of the field when he cut it back and took it all the way. But when they took the punt back the team had quit. That was lousy coverage. Who goes straight up the middle untouched? I will say however that I didnt think the D didnt COMPLETELY give up after it was 34-13. They had a little fight in em left. But the offense and especially the playcalling in the 2nd half was AWFUL. We got way to conservative. I thought Chaney should have utilized a little more 4 wide set thru shotgun w/ hunter and D. Rogers. The play-action out of I formation was just setting simms up for failure. I was totally impressed w/ the first half tho. If we can get consistent and the Offense can stay on the field longer to give the D a breather then I think this can be a pretty good bunch.
 
#79
#79
Neyland'76 said:
How can I say he coaches were at fault?

Because I spent about 15 years coaching youth league basketabll, soccer, baseball and gisrls' softball.

And whenever we lost, and particularly when we lost in a poor fashion, I knew it wasn't because of the kids. It was because I didn't prepare them right, or didn't make the right adjustments, or didn't train or condition them enough, or just made bad decisions.

My team was my team. I was supposed to prepare them and put them in a position to do their best. If I didn't, and they played as well as they could and still lost, it was my fault.

And I did that for free.
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Since you know it all and have the answers. Please tell me what, and when you would have done different. Oregon was going to make Matt Simms beat them, And he couldn't do it. It was a cascade failure. If he could have made just 3-4 plays we would have been in the game till the end. We will not be able to beat any of the better teams we play until, or if Simms can make plays. Right now he is the weakest link on the team. Be prepared now for a steady diet of 8 in the box and long 3rd down conversion attempts. Many more pick 6s and sacks to come I am afraid. It is what it is and nothing but time and Brays hopeful improvement is going to change it. No coach is going to make Simms have that ability. The coaches tried to put him in position to succeed and he failed.
 
#80
#80
VOLCLASSOF2014 said:
Im gonna have to respectfully disagree. When Simms threw that pick 6 the team for the most part quit. I think James got lucky when he broke a tackle and nobody was on the other side of the field when he cut it back and took it all the way. But when they took the punt back the team had quit. That was lousy coverage. Who goes straight up the middle untouched? I will say however that I didnt think the D didnt COMPLETELY give up after it was 34-13. They had a little fight in em left. But the offense and especially the playcalling in the 2nd half was AWFUL. We got way to conservative. I thought Chaney should have utilized a little more 4 wide set thru shotgun w/ hunter and D. Rogers. The play-action out of I formation was just setting simms up for failure. I was totally impressed w/ the first half tho. If we can get consistent and the Offense can stay on the field longer to give the D a breather then I think this can be a pretty good bunch.
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The team was running on adrenaline and the crowd the whole time. When Simms threw the pick-6 the air came out of the whole building. I can't fault exhausted, overmatched players for failing to maintain that level of intensity. Adrenaline can only carry you so far.
 
#81
#81
...against a team with plenty. Hard to compete when tired legs are up against fresh legs. I don't think the Vols gave up as much as they got tired. Oregon's 2nd string unit marched down the field for that last touchdown drive. If the Vol's D was fresher, that wouldn't have happened. It was a good game, and had us Duck fans scared for a while! The Vol's are a good young team. Give them some time to gel, and they'll do some things!

Good game Vol's! See you when you come to Autzen!

:victory:
 
#82
#82
Neyland'76 said:
How can I say he coaches were at fault?

Because I spent about 15 years coaching youth league basketabll, soccer, baseball and gisrls' softball.

And whenever we lost, and particularly when we lost in a poor fashion, I knew it wasn't because of the kids. It was because I didn't prepare them right, or didn't make the right adjustments, or didn't train or condition them enough, or just made bad decisions.

My team was my team. I was supposed to prepare them and put them in a position to do their best. If I didn't, and they played as well as they could and still lost, it was my fault.

And I did that for free.
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You can't make chicken salad out of chicken Sh*t.
 
#83
#83
I will be out there. Wife and I almost moved to Portland a decade or so ago. We've had that date circled on the calendar for years.
 
#85
#85
Vercingetorix said:
Your experience coaching girls' softball is exactly the same thing as professional college coaches trying to beat a top 10 team with a woefully depleted roster. Thank you for your valuable coaching insight.
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And you have coached at what level?

No greater sacrifice than coaching youth leagues for nothing but your time, nerves, and passion.

You have no clue. May you live the rest of your life with crotch rot and toe jam.

Sanctimonious fool.
 
#86
#86
Vercingetorix said:
Your experience coaching girls' softball is exactly the same thing as professional college coaches trying to beat a top 10 team with a woefully depleted roster. Thank you for your valuable coaching insight.
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:lolabove::lolabove:


Maybe he can go into Dooley's office tomorrow and help out.
 

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#87
#87
Cartervol said:
Yeah whatever makes you sleep better. They got beat by a superior team and beat bad.
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they exposed the toilet paper thin depth the Vols have in a big way...went up tempo and the beat down started....got up two scores and then pinned their ears back and kicked them while they were down.....
 
#88
#88
volger said:
And you have coached at what level?

No greater sacrifice than coaching youth leagues for nothing but your time, nerves, and passion.

You have no clue. May you live the rest of your life with crotch rot and toe jam.

Sanctimonious fool.
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That's just funny....

...are you the softball coach?

Vercing isn't a fool...but I'll listen to the argument of those who understand the struggles of a youth league coach and those who don't....
 
#89
#89
That's just funny....

...are you the softball coach?

Vercing isn't a fool.. but I'll listen to the argument of those who understand the struggles of a youth league coach and those who don't....

:popcorn: I cant wait for this
 
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#90
#90
GAVol said:
I had a coach tell me a couple of weeks ago that where the depth would hurt us most would be on special teams in the 2nd half. Boy was he right.
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And I mentioned on vn live that special teams was where they excel.
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#91
#91
GAVol said:
I had a coach tell me a couple of weeks ago that where the depth would hurt us most would be on special teams in the 2nd half. Boy was he right.
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Makes sense when you have that many starters on special teams duty.
 
#92
#92
Unfortunately, I think we just saw a blueprint of what the remainder of our quality opponents will do to us this year.
 
#93
#93
TennTradition said:
That's just funny....

...are you the softball coach?

Vercing isn't a fool...but I'll listen to the argument of those who understand the struggles of a youth league coach and those who don't....
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Yes I coached little league baseball and assisted in football. Yes he is a fool or drunk.

Are you his butt buddy?
 
#94
#94
volger said:
And you have coached at what level?

No greater sacrifice than coaching youth leagues for nothing but your time, nerves, and passion.

You have no clue. May you live the rest of your life with crotch rot and toe jam.

Sanctimonious fool.
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I coach at about the same level as you -- I coach my son's youth league soccer team. I'm certainly not crapping on the free youth-league coaching you do, because that's what I do too; I just think it's idiocy to equate youth coaching with what Dooley and his staff are doing. It's like saying that because you know a dozen chords on the guitar that you're ready to go on tour with Metallica. For you to compare what you do with girls' softball to what Dooley and his staff are doing is just plain stupidity.
 
#95
#95
GAVol said:
I think you completely missed what happened. They didn't quit. They simply did what we were afraid they would do . . . got overcome by the depth of a quality opponent.

I had a coach tell me a couple of weeks ago that where the depth would hurt us most would be on special teams in the 2nd half. Boy was he right.
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Agree with the depth issue,but I also think some of the players gave up in the second half.
 
#96
#96
CardassianVol said:
It certainly looked like they quit. The intensity was not there after the interception. It didn't help that they are a much better team, so any drop off in our level of play was magnified. That was as ugly as the 2007 UF game.
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This.
 
#98
#98
Neyland'76 said:
How can I say he coaches were at fault?

Because I spent about 15 years coaching youth league basketabll, soccer, baseball and gisrls' softball.

And whenever we lost, and particularly when we lost in a poor fashion, I knew it wasn't because of the kids. It was because I didn't prepare them right, or didn't make the right adjustments, or didn't train or condition them enough, or just made bad decisions.

My team was my team. I was supposed to prepare them and put them in a position to do their best. If I didn't, and they played as well as they could and still lost, it was my fault.

And I did that for free.
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I've been coaching youth league sports for twentyfour years,mainly seventh grade football.It's painfully obvious when a team gives up.When Simms threw that pic-six,they quit.
 
#99
#99
are some people forgetting that we played a great team tonight? ANYONE who though we had a chance tonight was living in a fairytale land.


"I've been coaching youth league sports for twentyfour years,mainly seventh grade football.It's painfully obvious when a team gives up.When Simms threw that pic-six,they quit."

Have you ever played sports, or just coached? because it sounds like you never have played because if your getting your a$$ kicked by a team is is clearly better its pretty hard to give 100% in the 4th qt of a blowout. How about you stick to pee wee football and leave big boys alone.
 
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#100
#100
I too am an old Vol fan...born Shelby county in 55 and in Va since 68...Through the years have seen lots of good and bad. What really is upsetting to me is Dooley throwing his team under the bus (after just one bad game) in public calling them quitters and ridiculous. Basically he separated himself from his team pointing the finger at them when it is HIS team. If he wants this team to remain HIS team he best defend them and believe in them in the public and then close the door and rip them new A-holes in private. Because if he continually publicly denounces them, then who do they believe in when the chips are down. There is a reason people love to play for Bobby Cox, this is it.
 
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