The best part isn't happening - No Running through the T

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Pride85 said:
Have you ever played an instrument? Do you realize how much tubing the moisture has to travel through. 99% or better ends up trapped in the instrument and has to be cleared using one of the drain valves. Even my saxophone wouldn't let droplets of moisture travel into the T. A trumpet sounds hilarious when the tubes are full of liquid.
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Guitar---rarely has to be drained. Hey, maybe they could form the T out of a bunch of mask wearing guitar players. BTW, the post wasn't meant to be serious.
 
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Pride85 said:
I know there are a lot on here that criticize and belittle those of us on here that were in the Pride of the Southland Marching Band . . .
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I would really like to think that you are wrong on this point. In any case, you and all members of the Pride of the Southland Marching Band (past & present) have my enduring respect.
 
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How about a stand-in opponent mascot running out on the field and David Crockett comes out, licks his thumb and wipes his sights and blasts the offender? Oh, never mind. I was wiping down my AK and got carried away.
 
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If the POTS cannot be on the field pregame and halftime, then let’s support their 5th quarter post-game show like the future depends on it.
 
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DonDiego said:
Guitar---rarely has to be drained. Hey, maybe they could form the T out of a bunch of mask wearing guitar players. BTW, the post wasn't meant to be serious.
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I know it wasn't, hence my gurgling trumpet comment. I have actually seen high school bands with a member playing the bass guitar in uniform on the sidelines. Really scary when it is raining:eek:
 
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vik said:
I would really like to think that you are wrong on this point. In any case, you and all members of the Pride of the Southland Marching Band (past & present) have my enduring respect.
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Unfortunately there are those on this site that have as much respect for the present and former members of the Pride as others do JG. It is a lot of hard work under stress of dismissal at simple mistakes. There are not a lot that are boisterous, but enough to irritate at least myself. I thank you for the sentiment. I would not trade my time in the band for anything.
 
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The BEST part is winning. I love the running through the T and it is exciting. But, it isn't the best part. ;)
 
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vik said:
I would really like to think that you are wrong on this point. In any case, you and all members of the Pride of the Southland Marching Band (past & present) have my enduring respect.
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Ditto..the Band is a huge part of the gameday experience.
 
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savannahfan said:
Yeah, another let's just blame it on C-19, and pocket the difference in losing money and not going about life as usual. I know, but some way or other schools have figured out ways to make money from this ailment. Don't believe me?? just see how many refunded room and board or tuition for the missed part of spring classes. Not only that but look and see how many have raised all prices for this coming fall classes And cut them short (some at thanksgiving). Some and at least one very close to us VolNationers are having students one campus but having them take classes on-line, not in classroom. So if you don't have the expense of band travel,!, we will save money and it's C-19's fault. Just another thought, wonder how many professors were laid off when they had no one to teach in the late spring and summer???
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Ok, let's go through this point-by-incorrect-point.

- Virtually every school, including UT, refunded a prorated portion of room and board for the spring semester. Yes, staffing costs went down, but the fixed costs on housing (mostly debt service on the buildings and utilities) did not decrease, so schools actually lost money rather than saving or making it.

- Tuition went up slightly, but it was an increase in line with past years.

- Classes were not "cut short" for this fall. They simply eliminated fall break and moved up the end of the semester. The total number of instruction days remained the same.

- There is little cost savings for the school in online classes versus in-person. The biggest cost remains staffing and they're paying the same number of instructors to teach the same number of classes.

- Band travel is an insignificant number for the athletics department, who funds most of the band travel. Due to performance restrictions that opponents put in for a normal year, the full band would have only traveled once this season and it wouldn't have been an overnight trip. A pep band would have made overnight trips to Oklahoma and Arkansas. The cost savings for the band not traveling this year is less than $100k. Does UT need that money? Sure. But it's a drop in the bucket in a $140 million budget.

- No professors were laid off by Tennessee this spring/summer. Professors are on annual salaries, no matter how many classes are taught. But UT offered the same number of summer classes as always, they were just online. Instructors were responsible for the same number of classes as in a usual year.
 
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KBVol said:
So damn stupid and unnecessary.
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It appears all we can do in a crowd is protest. I know we have a legal right to protest, but there are other rights being trampled on that are important as well. Just use the same guidelines for all of our rights not just one.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Ok, let's go through this point-by-incorrect-point.

- Virtually every school, including UT, refunded a prorated portion of room and board for the spring semester. Yes, staffing costs went down, but the fixed costs on housing (mostly debt service on the buildings and utilities) did not decrease, so schools actually lost money rather than saving or making it.

- Tuition went up slightly, but it was an increase in line with past years.

- Classes were not "cut short" for this fall. They simply eliminated fall break and moved up the end of the semester. The total number of instruction days remained the same.

- There is little cost savings for the school in online classes versus in-person. The biggest cost remains staffing and they're paying the same number of instructors to teach the same number of classes.

- Band travel is an insignificant number for the athletics department, who funds most of the band travel. Due to performance restrictions that opponents put in for a normal year, the full band would have only traveled once this season and it wouldn't have been an overnight trip. A pep band would have made overnight trips to Oklahoma and Arkansas. The cost savings for the band not traveling this year is less than $100k. Does UT need that money? Sure. But it's a drop in the bucket in a $140 million budget.

- No professors were laid off by Tennessee this spring/summer. Professors are on annual salaries, no matter how many classes are taught. But UT offered the same number of summer classes as always, they were just online. Instructors were responsible for the same number of classes as in a usual year.
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I understand what you are saying about UT, however I have a 2 grandchildren in other schools and know for sure about what has happened in those schools. I now have another grandchild at UT and yes, Ut seems to be doing things along the lines you lay out. However "online classes" for anyone living on campus is BS. If they are there it is because that's the way they want their education
in person, not in front of a TV screen. If they had wanted to (I speak not only for mine but anyone's child on campus) to get educated by TV teaching methods, then they could have enrolled in that New Hampshire school or the on in AZ. NOT UT!!! aS TO Band expenses, yes UT Ad does foot the bill, but not so in most other universities to my limited knowledge and don't tell me band travel etc. is an insignificant expense. Load up 2-300 people with all equipment and tell me it's insignificant. That's why the whole band doesn't travel to every away game!! I will stop here, but glad you took the time to explain another side of this situation me, THANKS..
 
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