The Beatles . . .

#26
#26
egotisticalmoron said:
i'm pretty much infatuated with everything the beatles did. the earlier stuff is cool, just because of the beats and the way john and paul screamed....and then the later stuff was mindblowing.
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Musically speaking, they moved from basic 3 & 4 chord arrangements to using much more complicated/advanced ochestral guitar chords as well as more complete background orchestration.
 
#27
#27
If the Beatles were around today, their music would be like Paul McCartney's current stuff, which is complete crap. Like that "Call me Al" song. What the heck was that all about?
 
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jamesd1628 said:
If the Beatles were around today, their music would be like Paul McCartney's current stuff, which is complete crap. Like that "Call me Al" song. What the heck was that all about?
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That depends on do you mean be a band today at their ages when they started in the early 60's? I think they would still be a major factor, perhaps not so innovative, but then if they were debuting now, all their influence on music since the 60's would not exist, truely a bummer.
 
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The thing I like about music from that era and later bands like Led Zeppelin (among others) was that the music wasn't "sterilized" in the studio. (over produced if that makes any sense)
 
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jamesd1628 said:
If the Beatles were around today, their music would be like Paul McCartney's current stuff, which is complete crap. Like that "Call me Al" song. What the heck was that all about?
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go to youtube and watch jenny wren from chaos and creation. came out about two years ago and it might be the best he's had in 20 years. the whole album is beautiful.
 
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KB5252 said:
Is it just me or were the Beatles kind of like the Backstreet Boys of their time only talented and with much more longevity.
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It's just you. Beatles were nowhere close to being like the backstreet boys. The Beatles changed music and the history of it. My degree is in music and when I was in undergrad, our teacher would actually discuss the influence of the Beatles' music, and that was in a classical music history class.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
SUCK! There, I said it. I’m bracing myself for the onslaught of hockey sticks that I’m sure is headed my way, but I just don’t get it. Yes, there are a few Beatles tunes that I actually like, but the number has to be less than five. Aside from those very few, I just don’t get it. The past two weeks on American Idol (yes, I confess, I watch it – don’t deny it, you do to), the singers have been forced to sing Beatles songs, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard such lame songs in all my life. Bizarre melodies, left-wing messages - pathetic. Some songs have decent lyrics, but the melody is so strange that I just can’t enjoy it (e.g., Blackbird). Others have good melodies, but the message is so far off from my personal beliefs that I find it intolerable. The perfect example of this is Imagine. Good melody, but I have never in my life heard a more atheistic, left wing, new age pile of crap in all my life.

All I can figure is that the Beatles were a product of the times, the 60s, when the peace/free love/hippie movement ruled the music scene. Maybe I’m just too young to understand (I’ll be 37 this year). Some of you ol’ timers help me understand, because I just don’t get the Beatles.

Oh, and by the way, for all of the socialist/communist/left wing propaganda peppered throughout their songs, they sure did (and do) make a damn lot of money, and I don’t see them giving any of that away for the greater good.
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I guess my question would be, if you had to choose a favorite band, who would it be?
 
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OWB said:
It's just you. Beatles were nowhere close to being like the backstreet boys. The Beatles changed music and the history of it. My degree is in music and when I was in undergrad, our teacher would actually discuss the influence of the Beatles' music, and that was in a classical music history class.
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Again just being sarcastic, but I did expect this kind of reaction because I do understand their influence and peoples affinity to them. Did they ever discuss Pink Floyd?
 
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KB5252 said:
Again just being sarcastic, but I did expect this kind of reaction because I do understand their influence and peoples affinity to them.
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Oh, I didn't get the sarcasm, my bad.

I never really listened to the Beatles much, but I have a good appreciation of what they did for music after learning about it. To me, the fact that their music was actually being discussed in a class that focused on most of the greatest composers in the world spoke volumes about their music.
 
#36
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OWB said:
Oh, I didn't get the sarcasm, my bad.

I never really listened to the Beatles much, but I have a good appreciation of what they did for music after learning about it. To me, the fact that their music was actually being discussed in a class that focused on most of the greatest composers in the world spoke volumes about their music.
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I edited the last post. Did they ever discuss any Pink Floyd? To me they have a very classical sound and arrangement using modern instruments.
 
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No, just the Beatles. It never really had to do with classical sound as much as it did changing music history though.
 
#38
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For a deeper appreciation of the depth of creativity involved with the music in this time period you should check out the "Smile" documentary on Brian Wilson.

I still think trying to keep up with the Beatles made him crazy.
 
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OWB said:
It's just you. Beatles were nowhere close to being like the backstreet boys. The Beatles changed music and the history of it. My degree is in music and when I was in undergrad, our teacher would actually discuss the influence of the Beatles' music, and that was in a classical music history class.
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OWB, just curious, where/when did you get your music degree? I, too, have a music degree, specifically in music composition.

As far as what I like with respect to music/musicians/bands, I would say it pretty much runs the gamut, but for me the entire process is reactionary. I listen to what I like, simple as that. The fact that the Beatles were hugely influential will not cause me to listen to them, for the simple reason that I just don’t like the sound and/or lyrics in most cases. A good comparison to classical music would probably be Beethoven. He’s easily one of the most influential musicians in all of music history, and I like some of his compositions, but for the most part, I just don’t find his music that pleasing to the ear, so I don’t listen to it.
 
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I don't think the original poster is going to list any bands he listens to simply because any band he does enjoy probably drew influence from The Beatles.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
OWB, just curious, where/when did you get your music degree? I, too, have a music degree, specifically in music composition.

As far as what I like with respect to music/musicians/bands, I would say it pretty much runs the gamut, but for me the entire process is reactionary. I listen to what I like, simple as that. The fact that the Beatles were hugely influential will not cause me to listen to them, for the simple reason that I just don’t like the sound and/or lyrics in most cases. A good comparison to classical music would probably be Beethoven. He’s easily one of the most influential musicians in all of music history, and I like some of his compositions, but for the most part, I just don’t find his music that pleasing to the ear, so I don’t listen to it.
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I graduated from undergrad in 2000 from The North Carolina School of the Arts. Then did grad work at Indiana University and University of Colorado. What about you?

It's interesting that you're degree was in composition, yet you don't like Beatles. They did stuff at the time that nobody had ever done before. But I get it, they're not appeasing to your ear. Still, they did some interesting things.
 
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OWB said:
Oh, I didn't get the sarcasm, my bad.

I never really listened to the Beatles much, but I have a good appreciation of what they did for music after learning about it. To me, the fact that their music was actually being discussed in a class that focused on most of the greatest composers in the world spoke volumes about their music.
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I don't know that the Beatles did anytying for music in an overall sense. Certainly nothing they did musically would be considered musical genius. I believe their influence would fall squarely into the pop culture and pop music arenas. The music itself couldn't really be mentioned in the same discussion with the music of the great classical composers.
 
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OWB said:
I graduated from undergrad in 2000 from The North Carolina School of the Arts. Then did grad work at Indiana University and University of Colorado. What about you?

It's interesting that you're degree was in composition, yet you don't like Beatles. They did stuff at the time that nobody had ever done before. But I get it, they're not appeasing to your ear. Still, they did some interesting things.
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I got my undergrad in music composition at UTK in 1994. I then realized that I wasn't any where near good enough to make it as a real musician, which meant that my only real option in the music world would be to become a music professor. I didn't really want to do that, so I did what all lost souls with a relatively useless undergrad degree do - I went to law school. And now I'm a lawyer and hate it.
 
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doozer said:
I don't think the original poster is going to list any bands he listens to simply because any band he does enjoy probably drew influence from The Beatles.
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I listen to a lot of bands. My favorite is probably U2. And yes, I'm sure U2 was probably influenced by the Beatles, but as I have stated repeatedly in this thread, I am in agreement that the Beatles were influental, I just don't like their songs.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
The music itself couldn't really be mentioned in the same discussion with the music of the great classical composers.
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Actually they could just because they did something with music that nobody else did. Again, I'll just mention in my music history course, it was about the history and influence, not comparing the Beatles music directly to the Classical greats.
 
#50
#50
egotisticalmoron said:
i hate bono with all of my heart, but he sang "i am the walrus" in accross the universe pretty well.
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Bono is a schlub. Any and all artists, actors, etc., should keep their damn mouths shut about political affairs. That kind of crap can really ruin an artist for me.
 
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