The Atlanta Braves

[Kingston Vol]

Newk has most trade value because he’s left handed, he is freaking huge (more likely to be durable), and I believe he has more service time remaining

I would be more than happy to go into next season with Folty, Newk, Touki, Gaus and Julio with Wright in wings and Fried in high leverage bullpen role

I would not hesitate to trade any one of them though for the right price

If we’re serious about contending then that rotation needs a true ACE. Folty doesn’t have the temperament and Newk doesn’t have the consistency.

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

I would not trade Newk without getting a kings ransom .. he has the most trade value IMO

Dbake (RIP) completely changed my tune on Newk. You don’t give up on someone with his frame and talent.

 

[AV_12]

Too many walks for Newk for me. I’d move him as well

 

[AV_12]

Dbake (RIP) completely changed my tune on Newk. You don’t give up on someone with his frame and talent.

I hope he proves me wrong. He didn’t exactly dominate in the postseason as Brown makes it seems, and he was terrible for the majority of the year

 

[Kingston Vol]

Too many walks for Newk for me. I’d move him as well

I wouldn’t trade him but I wouldn’t want to ever be in the position to depend on him to keep a series alive again.

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

I hope he proves me wrong. He didn’t exactly dominate in the postseason as Brown makes it seems, and he was terrible for the majority of the year

The walks is why I was out on him to begin with, definitely concerning. I give him another year tho.

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

If we’re serious about contending then that rotation needs a true ACE. Folty doesn’t have the temperament and Newk doesn’t have the consistency.

The good news is they don’t have to be aces. At least 2 young bucks will pass the up imo.

 

[AV_12]

Newk has most trade value because he’s left handed, he is freaking huge (more likely to be durable), and I believe he has more service time remaining

I would be more than happy to go into next season with Folty, Newk, Touki, Gaus and Julio with Wright in wings and Fried in high leverage bullpen role

I would not hesitate to trade any one of them though for the right price

If this is true for Newk, then I’m cashing in asap

 

[zjcvols]

Newk has most trade value because he’s left handed, he is freaking huge (more likely to be durable), and I believe he has more service time remaining

I would be more than happy to go into next season with Folty, Newk, Touki, Gaus and Julio with Wright in wings and Fried in high leverage bullpen role

I would not hesitate to trade any one of them though for the right price

You also have Soroka and Wilson and Gohara all in AAA if none get traded too.

 

[zjcvols]

This is my top 20 prospect list right now

1. Toussaint
2. Soroka
3. Pache
4. Anderson
5. Riley
6. Wright
7. Waters
8. Wilson
9. Contreras
10. Gohara
11. Mueller
12. Jenista
13. Wentz
14. Sobotka
15. Allard
16. Beck
17. Tarnok
18. Ynoa
19. Jackson
20. Weigel

 

[TBrown]

You also have Soroka and Wilson and Gohara all in AAA if none get traded too.

Too many options to depend on people who arent healthy. Wilson behind wright for me

 

[zjcvols]

Too many options to depend on people who arent healthy. Wilson behind wright for me

I’m just hoping it was all precautionary. I’m a huge Soroka fan though so my opinion can’t be trusted fully

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

This is my top 20 prospect list right now

1. Toussaint
2. Soroka
3. Pache
4. Anderson
5. Riley
6. Wright
7. Waters
8. Wilson
9. Contreras
10. Gohara
11. Mueller
12. Jenista
13. Wentz
14. Sobotka
15. Allard
16. Beck
17. Tarnok
18. Ynoa
19. Jackson
20. Weigel

Pache too high

 

[Regulator]

Newk has most trade value because he’s left handed, he is freaking huge (more likely to be durable), and I believe he has more service time remaining

I would be more than happy to go into next season with Folty, Newk, Touki, Gaus and Julio with Wright in wings and Fried in high leverage bullpen role

I would not hesitate to trade any one of them though for the right price

Replace any one of those guys with deGrom, slot him first (obviously) and let the others fall in behind him. That’s a pretty good rotation.

 

[LotteryPick]

This is my top 20 prospect list right now

1. Toussaint
2. Soroka
3. Pache
4. Anderson
5. Riley
6. Wright
7. Waters
8. Wilson
9. Contreras
10. Gohara
11. Mueller
12. Jenista
13. Wentz
14. Sobotka
15. Allard
16. Beck
17. Tarnok
18. Ynoa
19. Jackson
20. Weigel

Add CJ Alexander on that list between 15-20 and I agree. Also think Anderson is 3.

 

[zjcvols]

Add CJ Alexander on that list between 15-20 and I agree. Also think Anderson is 3.

I knew i would forget someone

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

Pache too high

Riley too high too

 

[zjcvols]

Pache too high

Definitely guys with higher upside but a guy who’s probably gonna be a 3-4 win player on the low end can’t be outside your top 3-4

 

[AV_12]

Definitely guys with higher upside but a guy who’s probably gonna be a 3-4 win player on the low end can’t be outside your top 3-4

Who is just beginning to physically mature

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

Definitely guys with higher upside but a guy who’s probably gonna be a 3-4 win player on the low end can’t be outside your top 3-4

His OBP terrifies me

 

[LotteryPick]

My top 5 is probably

1. Touki
2. Soroka
3. Anderson
4. Wright
5. Coin flip between Riley/Pache/Waters

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

Who is just beginning to physically mature

Like him a lot, I’d just put the first 3 pitchers below him, above him on Z’s list. He has got to learn to take pitches or he will be ate alive in the show. Still a lot of time there tho.

 

[TBrown]

I’m just hoping it was all precautionary. I’m a huge Soroka fan though so my opinion can’t be trusted fully

Like him a lot but the greatest ability is availability

 

[zjcvols]

His OBP terrifies me

Me too. It’s the one thing that has me nervous but they’ve also pushed him aggressively. I believe his bat is at least average. He’s already the best defender in the system (including the parent club). So at worst you get Byron Buxton or Ender Inciarte which is still really valuable.

 

[05_never_again]

Uhhh have you seen Folty’s two seamer? It’s nasty

I saw him throw poorly located, straight-as-an-arrow fastballs that consistently left Dodger Stadium in Game 1, I know that. Both he and Newcomb just walk way too many people, and they are at an age (especially Folty) where I don't really expect significant, leaps and bounds improvement. It isn't like they are both 21 or 22 years old.

I've just never been impressed with any of the arms we've acquired since the rebuild campaign started a few years ago. The jury is still out on a guy like Toussaint or Fried, and Gohara is perpetually hurt, but none of these guys we've acquired (Wisler, Folty, Newcomb, Tyrell Jenkins, etc.) appear to be world-beaters. Jenkins and Wisler were flat-out busts, and the others look like they might be solid pitchers but not bonafide aces. Given the amount of arms we acquired, you'd like for at least one of them, and ideally a few of them, to turn out to be top of the rotation type guys.