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TBrown said:
Ozzie has 2 cheap years left and the Braves have always valued him more than the rest of baseball so I’d be shocked if he were moved

Also, nothing remotely close to replacing him.

This is a team likely to contend this year and definitely intending to contend next year, and the year after, etc.

Moving people who aren’t on expiring contracts without replacements makes no sense.
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You lost me at contending this year and definitely intending to contend next year. Based off of what exactly or is it just what you are hoping for? In which case, I hope they contend as well but this team has a lot of glaring holes that haven’t been addressed and won’t be solved with healthy players
 
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volsarelife1 said:
Oh that contract is going to be an absolute disaster

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Two thoughts

1) We are never, ever, ever signing an elite player in the free agent market ever.

2) Cohen has completely changed the game with the Soto pursuit. Ohtani getting $700M but Soto getting $765M has completely reset the market. What is Gunnar going to get in FA in 5 years if he continues being an 8 WAR player? $900M?
 
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AA not being able to project the market and not even attempting to go after a guy like Harper in 2019 makes me physically ill.
 
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It’s ownership. The Braves largest contract ever, total, is almost the same as Soto’s per year value. There’s a few GMs over that period.
 
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zjcvols said:
Two thoughts

1) We are never, ever, ever signing an elite player in the free agent market ever.

2) Cohen has completely changed the game with the Soto pursuit. Ohtani getting $700M but Soto getting $765M has completely reset the market. What is Gunnar going to get in FA in 5 years if he continues being an 8 WAR player? $900M?
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I don’t think the current trend is sustainable. Something will give.
 
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Weezy said:
It’s ownership. The Braves largest contract ever, total, is almost the same as Soto’s per year value. There’s a few GMs over that period.
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Rude, how dare you forget B.J. Upton's $75M free agent deal
 
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raw dog said:
The chasm is becoming way too wide between the haves and haves not.
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It was going to end up like this once someone broke the $500M barrier. Nobody had gotten $400M in new money (Everyone says Trout got a $426M extension which isn't actually true, he already had two years guaranteed on that deal) until Ohtani and it blew it out of the water. But you could make a case that was a special, one-time event, like A-Rod getting $252M in 2000 (who was also, at the time, a perfect baseball player). When Soto, an awesome player going into age 26 season but still with flaws, got $700M+ I knew we were in big trouble moving forward.
 
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#232,621
I'm not sure we will ever see a player like A-Rod hit the market again. Going into his Age 25 (!!!) season, awesome defensively, no flaws with the bat, premier athlete with zero injury concerns. A true once in a lifetime free agent.
 
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zjcvols said:
Two thoughts

1) We are never, ever, ever signing an elite player in the free agent market ever.

2) Cohen has completely changed the game with the Soto pursuit. Ohtani getting $700M but Soto getting $765M has completely reset the market. What is Gunnar going to get in FA in 5 years if he continues being an 8 WAR player? $900M?
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It just can’t keep going up, something has to give. There’s also no way the majority of these end up being remotely good deals
 
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AV_12 said:
It just can’t keep going up, something has to give. There’s also no way the majority of these end up being remotely good deals
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It’s almost to the point where superstars only have a 3 or 4 “market” suitors who will then bid against each other to make the market even more outlandish. The problem is there is no nuance, Ohtani is cultural smash and once in a century dual talent. That contract should be an outlier. But it’s not.

Also, gotta do something about the insane deferrals ha
 
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