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#68,933
#68,933
Florida Stanley said:
Reads different as parent, huh? Although that is tough read for anyone. Just aren’t many words to say after reading that. Makes you thankful.
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My oldest kid spent the first 10 days of his life in intensive care. The first night of his life a doctor walked into my wife's room at 3 am and told us there was a real chance he might die. The drive home without him when my wife got discharged from the hospital was exactly as miserable as you can imagine. Everything turned out to be fine, thankfully, but I don't think I've ever completely recovered from what that felt like. The worrying never stops.

in a related note, he 's going to get his permit and start learning to drive this week. God help me.
 
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#68,935
Kingston Vol said:
It’s awful. A real kick in the ass.

I understand the discussion around Kobe being mixed. But that situation happening to damn near anyone would be heartbreaking.
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It just seems like such a frigging waste. For all I know helicopter travel might be statistically safer than driving, but "don't try to fly over the mountains west of town in a thick fog" seems like such a grotesquely obvious principle to have broken. And bang, nine people are dead. It's awful.
 
#68,936
#68,936
Vercingetorix said:
It just seems like such a frigging waste. For all I know helicopter travel might be statistically safer than driving, but "don't try to fly over the mountains west of town in a thick fog" seems like such a grotesquely obvious principle to have broken. And bang, nine people are dead. It's awful.
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Yeah, every one of these plane or helicopter crash stories always ends with “well, it wasn’t great conditions” or “the plane had been sputtering for a couple days” or “service records hadn’t been logged in years” etc. They’re almost always avoidable.

I’m sure the pilot assumed they were fine because 99.9% of the time they would have been - even if the risks were higher than usual.

Early reports are mixed about what happened - we’ll know more soon I’d imagine - but witnesses say they heard the engine sputtering like there was something wrong mechanically. And the air control in the area said the pilot was essentially depending on them to be his eyes because he couldn’t see through the fog - and they kept telling him he was flying too low to be picked up by their radar systems.

So was he flying too low because he couldn’t see or judge his height due to the fog? Or was he flying too low because the engine was failing?
 
#68,938
#68,938
Kingston Vol said:
Yeah, every one of these plane or helicopter crash stories always ends with “well, it wasn’t great conditions” or “the plane had been sputtering for a couple days” or “service records hadn’t been logged in years” etc. They’re almost always avoidable.

I’m sure the pilot assumed they were fine because 99.9% of the time they would have been - even if the risks were higher than usual.

Early reports are mixed about what happened - we’ll know more soon I’d imagine - but witnesses say they heard the engine sputtering like there was something wrong mechanically. And the air control in the area said the pilot was essentially depending on them to be his eyes because he couldn’t see through the fog - and they kept telling him he was flying too low to be picked up by their radar systems.

So was he flying too low because he couldn’t see or judge his height due to the fog? Or was he flying too low because the engine was failing?
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Believe he was flying at a certain altitude because he was flying SVFR. SVFR because visibility was poor at a certain altitude and the pilot was probably not IFR qualified.
 
#68,940
#68,940
Kingston Vol said:
Yeah, every one of these plane or helicopter crash stories always ends with “well, it wasn’t great conditions” or “the plane had been sputtering for a couple days” or “service records hadn’t been logged in years” etc. They’re almost always avoidable.

I’m sure the pilot assumed they were fine because 99.9% of the time they would have been - even if the risks were higher than usual.

Early reports are mixed about what happened - we’ll know more soon I’d imagine - but witnesses say they heard the engine sputtering like there was something wrong mechanically. And the air control in the area said the pilot was essentially depending on them to be his eyes because he couldn’t see through the fog - and they kept telling him he was flying too low to be picked up by their radar systems.

So was he flying too low because he couldn’t see or judge his height due to the fog? Or was he flying too low because the engine was failing?
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I've never been in one, and I don't think I'll ever get in one. The owner of Leicester City died in one a couple years ago after taking off from inside the stadium.

Several years ago my parents went to Hawaii for vacation and did a helicopter tour one day they were there. A few days after they got back home, the tour company they flew with had a chopper go down, but on a different island than they were on. Killed everyone. The winds around those mountains/volcanoes is so unpredictable. There was one just a few weeks ago around Christmas. It seems like they have one go down once every couple years there.
 
#68,942
#68,942
I would never get in a helicopter. I occasionally fly on a 10 seat private plane and that’s unsettling enough for me.
 
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