The 3-4 front is not working...

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#26
At this point Tennessee should probably coincide the run.........teams are going to get their yards and everyone else’s......they have for years.

I say line up 11 DB’s and safety’s
 
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#27
There was no push from the line to begin with. Games are won in the trenches and neither the offensive nor defensive line made their presence known.
 
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rocketskates said:
There was no push from the line to begin with. Games are won in the trenches and neither the offensive nor defensive line made their presence known.
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This. There are gigantic LOS problems on both sides of the ball. Yet the single biggest talking point about this team (outside of a general lack of effort, which I believe does exist) is about how bad JG is.
 
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GoVols15 said:
If ou think the biggest problem on this team is the 3-4, I have a bridge on Rocky Top I want to sell you! Nothing works on this team! It's a CLUTURE PROBLEM that Pruitt has FAILED TO DEAL WITH.
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What if I were to tell you losing to GSU was part of him dealing with it?
 
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SanFran1966 said:
Tennessee simply does not have the personnel or talent level for this scheme. Can’t hold the line of scrimmage and LBs lack talent.

If they don’t tweak the defensive line and front, it will be Sal Sunseri bad in league play.
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It's going to be as bad or worse than Sunseri this year. Deal with it. Let him get his players in and teach his defense. Stability, we need it.
 
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We played nickel 99% of the game against GaST. I assume we will play more base defense (3-4) against BYU based off their personnel.
 
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We I can’t find any snaps from game cut ups of us in 3-4 outside of red zone for a few snaps most plays are in nickel or dime packages. Most teams are in nickel most of time because of the spread offense.
 
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Correction on 3 and 1 at 5:41 of second quarter we were in 3-4 outside of red zone they where on 33 yd line.
 
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Stopping the run in a 3-4 defense is largely on the ILB's filling their gap assignments. D line didn't play amazingly, but the linebackers did not know where in the everliving hell they were. On multiple plays, I watched them running to a gap that was filled, running into each other, or standing completely still. Consequently, that RB had a field day running through massive holes.

To'oto'o is a true freshman calling the D (and he missed badly on some assignments in the run game), and Jeremy Banks had no idea what the hell he was doing. ILB's in the 3-4 HAVE to fill their gaps or you'll see exactly what we saw on Saturday all season long.

Don't know if Bituli coming back suddenly fixes that (might) but it absolutely cannot be worse than what we saw.

Emerson needs to grow up in a hurry as his push in the middle makes the gaps an awful lot smaller if he's commanding a double.

We will have to wait and see.
 
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SanFran1966 said:
Tennessee simply does not have the personnel or talent level for this scheme. Can’t hold the line of scrimmage and LBs lack talent.

If they don’t tweak the defensive line and front, it will be Sal Sunseri bad in league play.
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The team and coaches aren’t working.
 
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Joe Dirt said:
Stopping the run in a 3-4 defense is largely on the ILB's filling their gap assignments. D line didn't play amazingly, but the linebackers did not know where in the everliving hell they were. On multiple plays, I watched them running to a gap that was filled, running into each other, or standing completely still. Consequently, that RB had a field day running through massive holes.

To'oto'o is a true freshman calling the D (and he missed badly on some assignments in the run game), and Jeremy Banks had no idea what the hell he was doing. ILB's in the 3-4 HAVE to fill their gaps or you'll see exactly what we saw on Saturday all season long.

Don't know if Bituli coming back suddenly fixes that (might) but it absolutely cannot be worse than what we saw.

Emerson needs to grow up in a hurry as his push in the middle makes the gaps an awful lot smaller if he's commanding a double.

We will have to wait and see.
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I don’t care how good the ilb’s Are if you don’t have a monster nose tackle demanding double or triple teams the whole system fails. The lb core is to open to free releasing guards without a dominate anchor at nose.
 
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butchna said:
Let’s go back to that 4-2-5. Panthers would have tripled their rushing yardage.
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Tennessee played the defense that they did because the didn't trust the players. You could tell that when the announcers questioned why the didnt even attempt to put pressure on a sunbelt QB. Tennessee played basically a prevent defense but for the whole game instead of being up 4 touchdowns.
 
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SanFran1966 said:
Tennessee simply does not have the personnel or talent level for this scheme. Can’t hold the line of scrimmage and LBs lack talent.

If they don’t tweak the defensive line and front, it will be Sal Sunseri bad in league play.
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To be fair, there are a lot of things not working
 
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rocketskates said:
There was no push from the line to begin with. Games are won in the trenches and neither the offensive nor defensive line made their presence known.
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That's what I thought at first but I rewatched and the DL and entire defense looked good the first half with exception of first post turnover. Go back and rewatch, pay attention to just the DL and OL. There is hope (I thought there was none).
 
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Our players on the DL lost their match ups against GA ST’s OL. If we run a 4-3 or 3-4 does it really matter if we can’t win match ups with lesser opponents? Our DL had one sack! They were absolutely manhandled. There was some serious coaching malpractice that took place this past Saturday.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Our players on the DL lost their match ups against GA ST’s OL. If we run a 4-3 or 3-4 does it really matter if we can’t win match ups with lesser opponents? Our DL had one sack! They were absolutely manhandled. There was some serious coaching malpractice that took place this past Saturday.
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Our DL actually had a lot of pressure in the 1st half. I thought the same as you until I rewatched. Rewatch the 1st half and pay attention to both DL and OL play. They were much better than I initially thought.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
Our DL actually had a lot of pressure in the 1st half. I thought the same as you until I rewatched. Rewatch the 1st half and pay attention to both DL and OL play. They were much better than I initially thought.
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My eyes may eternally bleed if I watch even a second of that game ever again. I love to be optimistic if possible, but it is nearly impossible to put a positive spin on that horrendous loss. I can only hope there is monumental improvement against BYU. I will be cheering on the VOLS regardless.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
My eyes may eternally bleed if I watch even a second of that game ever again. I love to be optimistic if possible, but it is nearly impossible to put a positive spin on that horrendous loss. I can only hope there is monumental improvement against BYU. I will be cheering on the VOLS regardless.
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I did not want to watch any of it again as well. Do yourself a favor and go back and watch the entire 1st half while focusing on the line play. FF past their first score. You'll feel better
 
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Joe Dirt said:
Stopping the run in a 3-4 defense is largely on the ILB's filling their gap assignments. D line didn't play amazingly, but the linebackers did not know where in the everliving hell they were. On multiple plays, I watched them running to a gap that was filled, running into each other, or standing completely still. Consequently, that RB had a field day running through massive holes.

To'oto'o is a true freshman calling the D (and he missed badly on some assignments in the run game), and Jeremy Banks had no idea what the hell he was doing. ILB's in the 3-4 HAVE to fill their gaps or you'll see exactly what we saw on Saturday all season long.

Don't know if Bituli coming back suddenly fixes that (might) but it absolutely cannot be worse than what we saw.

Emerson needs to grow up in a hurry as his push in the middle makes the gaps an awful lot smaller if he's commanding a double.

We will have to wait and see.
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Every defense relies on linebackers filling gaps and run fits. we only played like 10 snaps of 3-4 the rest was 4-2-5 nickle. most teams in college football and nfl are playing nickle vs spread teams.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
I did not want to watch any of it again as well. Do yourself a favor and go back and watch the entire 1st half while focusing on the line play. FF past their first score. You'll feel better
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OK so we played better in the first half but ultimately lost the game in the second half.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
OK so we played better in the first half but ultimately lost the game in the second half.
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Yep, point is I think it's more of a culture problem. They gave up in the 2d half...looked like a dumpster fire. It looks like the coaches and team are addressing that, at least I hope so. Did you see the interview with JJ today?
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Tennessee played the defense that they did because the didn't trust the players. You could tell that when the announcers questioned why the didnt even attempt to put pressure on a sunbelt QB. Tennessee played basically a prevent defense but for the whole game instead of being up 4 touchdowns.
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I wonder if having to start Burrell had something to do with that. Their QB was only 11/24 throwing the ball, but Burrell got picked on multiple times.
 
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