That's racist!

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They do but it's so rare and with such few people it never registers past a small town police blotter.

I was reading a LEO study the other day showing if that you completely eliminated black and hispanic gun crimes in the US, the US gun violence stats would be lower than every European country (and every country in the world) but two
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
They do but it's so rare and with such few people it never registers past a small town police blotter.

I was reading a LEO study the other day showing if that you completely eliminated black and hispanic gun crimes in the US, the US gun violence stats would be lower than every European country (and every country in the world) but two
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Its crazy and the Left has gone so batsheit crazy with cries of "racist" that we cannot even have an honest discussion about it as a society. Both my little sisters are black as so is my buddy that I ride sportbikes, and share a garage with...so I clearly have no hate towards blacks. At last census they make up 13.7% of the US population, yet DOJ statistics show that they commit 52% of violent crime. That 13.7% is the males AND females too...so in reality black males make up about 7% of society and still commit about half of all violent crime. Thats a problem. For everyone, especially the black community themselves who have such a large % of their males either in prison or with convictions that will keep them from getting high level jobs for the rest of their lives. A black male is 19x as likely to kill someone as a white male in the US. Thats a very serious problem...and we will never make any progress in dealing with the issue when we cannot even discuss it on a national level without being crucified by the Left and their propaganda arm the MSM.

Pretending there isn't a problem and in fact blaming their behavior on fictional "systemic racism" and "white privilege" has done nothing but allow the problem to get worse. Idolizing career criminals like George Floyd is a symptom of the real cause, which is Leftist destruction of the family home unit, the new "plantation" of the welfare/entitlement programs etc. The Left has replaced black fathers in the home with government checks and housing, and are well on their way to doing the same thing in the Latino and white communities. Over 70% of black children are raised without a father in the home, and the % of white kids is steadily growing too. Thats not an accident. It is intentional social engineering by the Left to produce a dependent population to be captive and always voting Democrat. It will never improve unless we can talk about it honestly in government, in the press etc. Not just in anonymous message boards.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Its crazy and the Left has gone so batsheit crazy with cries of "racist" that we cannot even have an honest discussion about it as a society. Both my little sisters are black as so is my buddy that I ride sportbikes, and share a garage with...so I clearly have no hate towards blacks. At last census they make up 13.7% of the US population, yet DOJ statistics show that they commit 52% of violent crime. That 13.7% is the males AND females too...so in reality black males make up about 7% of society and still commit about half of all violent crime. Thats a problem. For everyone, especially the black community themselves who have such a large % of their males either in prison or with convictions that will keep them from getting high level jobs for the rest of their lives. A black male is 19x as likely to kill someone as a white male in the US. Thats a very serious problem...and we will never make any progress in dealing with the issue when we cannot even discuss it on a national level without being crucified by the Left and their propaganda arm the MSM.

Pretending there isn't a problem and in fact blaming their behavior on fictional "systemic racism" and "white privilege" has done nothing but allow the problem to get worse. Idolizing career criminals like George Floyd is a symptom of the real cause, which is Leftist destruction of the family home unit, the new "plantation" of the welfare/entitlement programs etc. The Left has replaced black fathers in the home with government checks and housing, and are well on their way to doing the same thing in the Latino and white communities. Over 70% of black children are raised without a father in the home, and the % of white kids is steadily growing too. Thats not an accident. It is intentional social engineering by the Left to produce a dependent population to be captive and always voting Democrat. It will never improve unless we can talk about it honestly in government, in the press etc. Not just in anonymous message boards.
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I've notice many times when CNN tries to have a discussion on race its the angry left that holler & scream over everyone else on the panel. They shout down Scott Jennings & try to have a filibuster every time he has his opinions to share. Leftist do not want the other side to have opinions different from their own. Libs want everyone to think and act like them. Nobody else matters.
 
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StarRaider said:
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Gotta be fun hating your own skin and what you see in the mirror. The random genetic lineage that you just happened to be born in. There are 3 types and none of us got to pick which body we were born into. This makes hating someone because they are different than you really stupid...but also makes hating yourself and others like you extremely stupid as well. Self loathing is still a selfish act. The clue is in the first word of the term..."self". Maybe he should pull his head out of his arse and focus on OTHER people and what he can do to help them.

White guilt and suicidal empathy by the modern Left are such a strange thing to behold. Logic and reason were cast aside for both of these self destructive belief systems. Its like poking your own eyes out with a steak knife. Democrats have lost their minds.
 
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"Suicidal empathy" didn't even exist as a term until the last few years and is so deeply stupid and evil just on its face lol. The suggestion not to have "too much" empathy just gets used as an excuse for why empathy toward anyone who isn't a right-wing darling is bad
 
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NashVol11 said:
"Suicidal empathy" didn't even exist as a term until the last few years and is so deeply stupid and evil just on its face lol. The suggestion not to have "too much" empathy just gets used as an excuse for why empathy toward anyone who isn't a right-wing darling is bad
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Suicidal empathy IS a thing and I have seen it for decades....not every where but definitely too much

The sweet 22 yr old female social worker straight out of college trying to help the poor misunderstood homeless psychotic rapist who lets down her guard and gets assaulted by him and seriously injured

I have empathy for all sorts of people, but the stark reality of how some people are doesn't mean you treat them with kid gloves either..

When you constantly fall for fraud, tricks, and sad stories time and again only to disregard motives and real consequences you are "empathic" to a fault and a risk to yourself and others

Some people are genuinely broken, some are genuinely evil, and some you will never ever help
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Suicidal empathy IS a thing and I have seen it for decades....not every where but definitely too much

The sweet 22 yr old female social worker straight out of college trying to help the poor misunderstood homeless psychotic rapist who lets down her guard and gets assaulted by him and seriously injured

I have empathy for all sorts of people, but the stark reality of how some people are doesn't mean you treat them with kid gloves either..

When you constantly fall for fraud, tricks, and sad stories time and again only to disregard motives and real consequences you are "empathic" to a fault and a risk to yourself and others

Some people are genuinely broken, some are genuinely evil, and some you will never ever help
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The fact that one's kindness isn't repaid doesn't mean it is "suicidal" or that you shouldn't help the next homeless person. That is also a scenario you just made up. It is a painfully stupid concept for people who want an excuse to be evil
 
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NashVol11 said:
The fact that one's kindness isn't repaid doesn't mean it is "suicidal" or that you shouldn't help the next homeless person. That is also a scenario you just made up. It is a painfully stupid concept for people who want an excuse to be evil
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I have helped more homeless people in more ways than you can every imagine. I didn't make it up I have seen it, she worked for Helen Ross McNabb and now is on disability living at home for the rest of her life, all because she "saw something in him no one else did"

There are also some people that I would never fall for their deceptions or give them a chance to hurt someone who is a lot more naive than I am

It's not about "kindness not being repaid" it's about not letting serial abusers, criminals and psychopaths be a danger to you or others or even themselves
 
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Matt2496 said:
Mark Kelly is such a disappointment. Think about the amount of intelligence required to be an astronaut, and then he goes and says something that utterly stupid/racist. Then the Democrat party scratches their bum wondering why white men aren't voting for them.
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He's just a grifter...he's not stupid... He and his wife saw the $$$$$ signs behind the anti-gun lobby at first and now he has to take every crazy leftist take on every subject.....They all do this
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
It's not about "kindness not being repaid" it's about not letting serial abusers, criminals and psychopaths be a danger to you or others or even themselves
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Wow amazing, we've arrived at a concept that has nothing to do with empathy. What an intelligent concept and exercise that was, totally not stupid as sh**
 
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NashVol11 said:
Wow amazing, we've arrived at a concept that has nothing to do with empathy. What an intelligent concept and exercise that was, totally not stupid as sh**
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How did it not have to do with empathy? It was her suicidal empathy and naiveity that led her to view an actual rapist psycho like a small child to be helped
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
How did it not have to do with empathy? It was her suicidal empathy and naiveity that led her to view an actual rapist psycho like a small child to be helped
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She wasn't empathetic for "rapist psychos," presumably she was empathetic for homeless people and there's nothing suicidal about that. Where is the "Save the Rapist Psychos" charity?
 
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NashVol11 said:
She wasn't empathetic for "rapist psychos," presumably she was empathetic for homeless people and there's nothing suicidal about that. Where is the "Save the Rapist Psychos" charity?
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She was warned of the homeless guy's criminal record and previous behavior, she didn't want to follow proper protocols because he "seemed like he was trying to get his life together"

You may not believe this but criminals look for ways to take advantage of "empathic people" and know they are easy marks

Do you know WHY most of the homeless people in towns love to stay near gas stations, interstate exits, shopping centers and college campuses?

Because they know affluent white women, young more liberal college kids without life experiences, and older boomers are easy marks and they can travel to these specific areas by public transit
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
She was warned of the homeless guy's criminal record and previous behavior, she didn't want to follow proper protocols because he "seemed like he was trying to get his life together"
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People do get their lives together all the time. That's not a suicidal belief. You are making my point for me
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You may not believe this but criminals look for ways to take advantage of "empathic people" and know they are easy marks
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And the ultra alpha MAGA chads resist "suicidal empathy" by saying NO!! F*** you, homeless guy, you won't trick me!!
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Do you know WHY most of the homeless people in towns love to stay near gas stations, interstate exits, shopping centers and college campuses?

Because they know affluent white women, young more liberal college kids without life experiences, and older boomers are easy marks and they can travel to these specific areas by public transit
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They go to higher-traffic areas for obvious reasons. It's funny that you're trying to talk to someone in NYC about how you know the REAL truth about homeless people and how they are all trying to take advantage of everyone. Your negative view of the less fortunate strikes again
 
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NashVol11 said:
People get their lives together all the time. You are making my point for me

They go to higher-traffic areas for obvious reasons. It's funny that you're trying to talk to someone in NYC about how you know the REAL truth about homeless people and how they are all trying to take advantage of everyone
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As working for 30 plus years in LE and healthcare I have dealt with literally thousands of homeless people in two different areas.

- A tiny minority are truly those to feel sorry for and help, that really had bad circumstances and deserve all the help we can get; These are the ones who deserve empathy
- Majority are dealing with a combo of mental illness and drug/alcohol addiction - Nothing legally can be done with these, so they have to choose help; these are 50/50 either way
- The remaining are outright criminals and scam artists; People who ride greyhounds to avoid long jail sentences in other cities, sex offenders, murderers etc who live homeless to run from things, they deserve NO empathy

Once you recognize pattern recognition they are easy to spot which are which
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
As working for 30 plus years in LE and healthcare I have dealt with literally thousands of homeless people in two different areas.

- A tiny minority are truly those to feel sorry for and help, that really had bad circumstances and deserve all the help we can get; These are the ones who deserve empathy
- Majority are dealing with a combo of mental illness and drug/alcohol addiction - Nothing legally can be done with these, so they have to choose help; these are 50/50 either way
- The remaining are outright criminals and scam artists; People who ride greyhounds to avoid long jail sentences in other cities, sex offenders, murderers etc who live homeless to run from things, they deserve NO empathy

Once you recognize pattern recognition they are easy to spot which are which
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Cool. Most people haven't. If they miscategorize someone then that's a misjudgment, not "suicidal empathy"
 
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NashVol11 said:
Cool. Most people haven't. If they miscategorize someone then that's a misjudgment, not "suicidal empathy"
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whats your distinction here?

because that misjudgement is based on empathetic feelings to such an extent that it was harmful to their life.

suicide doesn't require forethought of actually killing oneself. Some dumb drunk guy in a "hold my beer" moment, still commits suicide if he kills himself doing whatever.

even colloquially involving someone else as the "killer" can be called suicide. the most prominent is "suicide by cop". entering a pit of snakes or being around dangerous animals is considered suicidal.

in this case they are very likely overriding our built in self preservation default status of not trusting the un-known in pursuit of an altruistic end. it being the noble option doesn't make it less suicidal.
 
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LouderVol said:
whats your distinction here?

because that misjudgement is based on empathetic feelings to such an extent that it was harmful to their life.

suicide doesn't require forethought of actually killing oneself. Some dumb drunk guy in a "hold my beer" moment, still commits suicide if he kills himself doing whatever.

even colloquially involving someone else as the "killer" can be called suicide. the most prominent is "suicide by cop". entering a pit of snakes or being around dangerous animals is considered suicidal.

in this case they are very likely overriding our built in self preservation default status of not trusting the un-known in pursuit of an altruistic end. it being the noble option doesn't make it less suicidal.
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Suicide does require intent, at least in every definition I've seen. Two drunk guys racing where one slips, falls on his head and dies isn't suicide. If there's no distinction between misjudgment and "suicidal empathy," then it's a useless and unnecessarily charged phrase.

What is the group we are "suicidally empathetic" toward? Homeless people? That sounds pretty evil. Rapists? Who is "empathetic" toward rapists based on their rapist tendencies? The idea that because one homeless person turned out to be a rapist, that means empathy for homeless people is "suicidal," seems so deeply evil to me. It's an excuse to write off whole groups of people by saying "look, one of them committed a crime"
 
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