That's probably it for Dooley

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I have always been a strong Dooley supporter. However, yesterday convinced me it's time for a change. For the past two years, I think Dooley has done a good job of righting the ship and overcoming a depleted roster. However, we now have to face the question of whether this is going to be the best we can expect from Tennessee in the future. The fact is that a team with a high caliber quarterback, one of the most experienced offensive lines in football, and two future professional receivers is, right now, likely to miss out on a bowl game. The question folks should ask is if Dooley cannot do it with this roster, can he ever.

Five years ago I posted that I thought it was time for Fulmer to go because the program was trending downward to the point where Florida, Alabama and Georgia were no longer serious rivals and South Carolina would be the comparable program. Apparently, at least until Spurrier leaves, that was an overestimation. Right now, Florida, Alabama, LSU, South Carolina and George are out of reach for the foreseeable future. We are more on par with Auburn, Mississippi State and Missouri right now.

Given that Dooley has put together three top 15 recruiting classes of his own players, but the wins have not happened, it's probable time to conclude that something is just plain missing and while Dooley should be commended for his work to date, he's probably not the guy that will get Tennessee back to competing with the top half of the SEC.

(I know the argument is made that Dooley's game plan is good but the player's aren't executing it. That is in reality probably true. But the ashheap of history is full of coaches that are geniuses but cannot translate that to wins, see e.g., Charlie Weis. It takes a total package and right now Dooley doesn't seem to have it.)

The second reason it might be time for a change is the prospects of luring a high profile coach are better. Three years ago, I think most coaches looked at Tennessee and saw an ungrateful fan base with a severely depleted roster so the chances of success were few. The talent does appear to have increased markedly.
 
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I agree....time to recruit more talent on the D side. CDD and Sal will get that done.

As well....changes in OC and secondary staff are not unreasonable to expect.
 
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I was talking to MSU fans and they equate Dooley to Croom. High character guy hired after a snake oil salesman that righted the ship, but couldn't win even though every year they seemed to have a better shot. Obviously, they are happy with Mullin's talent and execution and are actually competing in the most talented division in college football. I have been reading this blog since '05 and finally posted in '08 we needed change and I am now posting the same in '12.:mf_surrender:
 
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I agree....time to recruit more talent on the D side. CDD and Sal will get that done.

As well....changes in OC and secondary staff are not unreasonable to expect.

You sir have more faith in the staff than anyone else on this board why? Not questioning you just curious for the sake of friendly conversation
 
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I agree....time to recruit more talent on the D side. CDD and Sal will get that done.

As well....changes in OC and secondary staff are not unreasonable to expect.
Curious as to why you'd want to blame everyone except the one most responsible, the head coach?
 
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i am tired of hearing him say we are not very good right now, he has said this for how many seasons now?

he has had time, we deserved better.

he looked like and talked like a coach that knows what is coming.
 
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You sir have more faith in the staff than anyone else on this board why? Not questioning you just curious for the sake of friendly conversation

Fair....

I understand this is a rebulding project...this program was destroyed after CPF/Kiffin, and anyone who took this over would have 3-4 yrs of hard work and selling to attract the talent required to get back into the top 5 nationally. Hammy chose CDD and I embrace that call. To stop now and clean house would set this program back even further (IMO). I think CDD has what it takes.

So...I will continue to support CDD, and hope that next year he lights it up....after 2013, it will be an easy call for Hart, whether to keep CDD or bring in the next guy.
 
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i am tired of hearing him say we are not very good right now, he has said this for how many seasons now?

he has had time, we deserved better.

he looked like and talked like a coach that knows what is coming.

He says that because it`s true.
 
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i am tired of hearing him say we are not very good right now, he has said this for how many seasons now?

he has had time, we deserved better.

he looked like and talked like a coach that knows what is coming.

I've not heard him say that this year. On the DD show today he said when we play to our potential we are hard to stop but when we don't we make too many mistakes. He knows what we are capable of this year and is just as frustrated as us that it's not getting the desired results. The difference is his job depends on those results.
 
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I don't see Dooley as a "high character guy."

You cannot argue that he has cleaned up the program. Dooley's players are not in the police blotter as much as Fulmer's and Kiffin's players and we haven't won the Fulmer Cup under his tenure-yet another thing he hasn't won!

Unfortunately, all that doesn't make him a good coach.
 
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Curious as to why you'd want to blame everyone except the one most responsible, the head coach?

Yes.....I follow a belief that within any organization there is responsibility to get the job done, and meet your objectives. Whether winning football games or winning in the market place.

There is a chain of accountability/responsibility that starts at the top, and flows into the organization.

Leadership at the top must see where the weak links exist...and make the tough calls. Hart holds that role over CDD, but CDD is the man with boots on the ground....he is running the team. He relies on his staff to get this team ready...CDD is not and should not be the expert at training his staff how to teach or coach...he hired them to use their knowledge and skills to get their players ready....if they are not producing the results, then CDD needs to react (at the end of this year).

To be more clear...I am with everyone here at the end of 2013, if CDD does not make staff changes at the end of this year...and this team struggles again to win 6-7 games. Yes, he should be dismissed at that point.
 
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I was talking to MSU fans and they equate Dooley to Croom. High character guy hired after a snake oil salesman that righted the ship, but couldn't win even though every year they seemed to have a better shot. Obviously, they are happy with Mullin's talent and execution and are actually competing in the most talented division in college football. I have been reading this blog since '05 and finally posted in '08 we needed change and I am now posting the same in '12.:mf_surrender:

I'm not even sure about his character, ask one of his former La.Tech players or DeAnthony Arnett if Dooley is a high character guy.
 
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I agree....time to recruit more talent on the D side. CDD and Sal will get that done.

As well....changes in OC and secondary staff are not unreasonable to expect.

OC is not the problem... Put up 31 points on most all teams and you expect to win..... We have no defense...Sal is in over his head.
 
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We have talented players who seem unable-- or unwilling-- to come together into a team. For whatever reason, they do not give their best for this head coach. Some players seem to have little respect or regard for the coaches. They mouth off to them and walk away from them in front of TV cameras.

When your season tickets are behind the bench, you can see how the players interact with each other and the coaches. The dynamic is not good. Bad chemistry, bad blood, dislike, disrespect, disgust or frustration-- who knows what it is or what caused it. But they don't seem to be able to fix it and it has to be fixed. Problems like this don't self-correct. We can't fire the players so...
 
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