That sound of something whizzing by your ear....

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lawgator1 said:
I think folks aren't reading the whole post. They are only seeing the "told ya so" moment and not realizing that I'm saying that UT will have its revenge on Kiffin, if not on the field at least in the sense that they will get to watch him crash and burn on the west coast.
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I don't really care what a Florida fan thinks anyway.
 
#28
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Gannon Goodson said:
What's up with the attacks? LG is right.
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Of course I'm right.

You know what they are saying down here? (I won't try to link the article because it'll take an hour as hot as the board is right now)

Local writers are saying that Lane Kiffin is the only guy that can make Al Davis look sane. That with Kiffin as HC at USC, the NCAA can just get rid of their tents there and buy an office building. And then they are saying, as I am, that UT fans are very quickly going to realize that it is far less painful having to admit us rival fans were right about this guy than to pick up the shatteredpieces of their program had CLK hung around long enough to run it into the ground.

When USC goes up in a puff of smoke and Kiffin is left holding the bag, guess who's going to be driving the I told you so bus? UT fans that's who. Heck, they won't be driving it, they'll pick it up on their shoulders and carry it.

Be glad Kiffin is gone. Let us naysayers have a little taste of gloating wine. And realize in the alternative universe of Kiffin remaining at UT it would be far worse than that.
 
#29
#29
lawgator1 said:
... was a bullet.

I of course admit to a certain sense of smug self-satisfaction today. Trust me, all of your rival fans do. I must say, however, that I always thought that the Lane Train would chug out of Knoxville on the heels of either an NCAA mushroom cloud on the horizon or Kiffin finally saying something so ridiculous that Vols fans woke up and asked "Who, exactly, is this jerk?"

So we detractors were wrong. It wasn't his mouth that got him in trouble. Its his ego that is going to be his undoing.

Now, I realize that his sudden departure three weeks before signing day, and taking his bunch with him, is going to leave you in the lurch. It is going to suck for you, and mightily. But not forever.

If this little episode doesn't convince you of the fact that it is inevitable that Kiffin's swagger is going to be exposed for the empty rhetoric that it is, and probably much sooner than later, I don't know what would. Consider: He is leaving a place where he is revered as the attitude-driven saviour of a program hungry for change and improvement, and going to a place where everyone is sure he's an idiot. He's leaving a program that will give him unlimited resources to build a dynasty, to go run a dynasty everyone knows is on the brink of crisis.

This place? Upbeat and hopeful. That place? Beset with worry and people looking for the exits.

In the end, its Kiffin's ego, pure and simple, driving him to do this. But hey, someone was the president of Enron right before it imploded, right? Until the very last day, someone was buying stock in Pet Rocks, right?

So, as I take some delight this morning in realizing UT fans are now suddenly wide awake as to what a complete tool they hired, I take some solace in knowing that its only a matter of time, and probably a very short time, that UT fans will also realize that they've dodged a pretty nasty bullet.
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truer words have never been spoken before about CLK. I never liked his antics but what was worse was so many on this board buying his crap.
 
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tidwell said:
Yeah, Vols fans everywhere are just the spitting image of "upbeat" and "excited about the future" right now while USC fans I'm sure are distraught over obtaining the best coaching staff in college football. Makes perfect sense now that I think about it.
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Monte Kiffin is a very good DC; Norm Chow is not confirmed as the new OC, but even if he does make the move from UCLA, he is good but not great.

IMO, both of them are too old to be effective recruiters - don't see either of them putting in all the hours on the road seeing prospects that great recruiters spend.

Lame Kiffin (lifetime: 12-21) is NOT a good HC & Ed Orgeron is an NCAA violation waiting to happen.

Kiffin returning to USC is sort of like dating your ex-wife after the divorce; she's an easy short term fix, but not right for the long haul.
 
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Jefffromjax said:
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Monte Kiffin is a very good DC; Norm Chow is not confirmed as the new OC, but even if he does make the move from UCLA, he is good but not great.

IMO, both of them are too old to be effective recruiters - don't see either of them putting in all the hours on the road seeing prospects that great recruiters spend.

Lame Kiffin (lifetime: 12-21) is NOT a good HC & Ed Orgeron is an NCAA violation waiting to happen.

Kiffin returning to USC is sort of like dating your ex-wife after the divorce; she's an easy short term fix, but not right for the long haul.
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:good!:
 
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This is silly LG. He was on the road to kicking UF's rear in a couple years. The fact of how he left town has nothing to do with his character. Coaches leave sometimes. Do we like it, no. Saban is a perfect example. Urban is too. He in both cases at Bowling Green and then Utah made comments about unfinished work right before "bolting" off to the next school. So, watch how I high your soap box is because you may fall of it one day.
 
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And don't worry about misspelling the name of the curent head coach. Simek will be at UT long after the current head coach is a bad memory which he already is according to one or two other posters. September 15, 2009

At least with Kiffun at SC the NCAA will be able to consolidate their investigations.
 
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#38
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lawgator1 said:
Of course I'm right.

You know what they are saying down here? (I won't try to link the article because it'll take an hour as hot as the board is right now)

Local writers are saying that Lane Kiffin is the only guy that can make Al Davis look sane. That with Kiffin as HC at USC, the NCAA can just get rid of their tents there and buy an office building. And then they are saying, as I am, that UT fans are very quickly going to realize that it is far less painful having to admit us rival fans were right about this guy than to pick up the shatteredpieces of their program had CLK hung around long enough to run it into the ground.

When USC goes up in a puff of smoke and Kiffin is left holding the bag, guess who's going to be driving the I told you so bus? UT fans that's who. Heck, they won't be driving it, they'll pick it up on their shoulders and carry it.

Be glad Kiffin is gone. Let us naysayers have a little taste of gloating wine. And realize in the alternative universe of Kiffin remaining at UT it would be far worse than that.
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Congrats on having the approval of the Fulmerites. Huge accomplishment there big boy.
Of all days to be here with your crap. Today is NOT the day.
 
#39
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hohenfelsvol said:
This is silly LG. He was on the road to kicking UF's rear in a couple years. The fact of how he left town has nothing to do with his character. Coaches leave sometimes. Do we like it, no. Saban is a perfect example. Urban is too. He in both cases at Bowling Green and then Utah made comments about unfinished work right before "bolting" off to the next school. So, watch how I high your soap box is because you may fall of it one day.
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Take note VN, Ho knows LG and thinks this way.
 
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Look on the bright side. Lots of USCw fans are upset today too b/c they already know him as a fraud... At least you got rid of the cancer before he brought down big NCCA sanctions on UT and drove the program further into the ground.

Most Gators don't welcome this news because it will allow UT a chance to bring in a quality coach much sooner to undo the damage LK would inevitably leave behind.
 
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GatorChomp said:
Look on the bright side. Lots of USCw fans are upset today too b/c they already know him as a fraud... At least you got rid of the cancer before he brought down big NCCA sanctions on UT and drove the program further into the ground.

Most Gators don't welcome this news because it will allow UT a chance to bring in a quality coach much sooner to undo the damage LK would inevitably leave behind.
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Thanks for the ORIGINAL insite there Skippy. Now shutup and go away.
 
#44
#44
hohenfelsvol said:
LG is hell bent and has his opinion set on LK. What LK did yesterday isn't going to improve his reputation but I'm a realist and understand how the game is played.
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I do not hold ill will toward LK. He did what he thinks is best for him.
Those that think that he can not coach are ignorant. The rest of the SEC might say that UT is better off without him, but it is THEY that are better off.
 
#45
#45
Empty rhetoric? That's retarded. That staff is going to freaking win at USC, just as they would have here. AA sanctions might get in the way, but they will win.
 
#46
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BigPapaVol said:
Empty rhetoric? That's retarded. That staff is going to freaking win at USC, just as they would have here. AA sanctions might get in the way, but they will win.
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No they won't. If the impending sanctions don't get 'em, then the new ones Kiffin et al will generate on their own will keep that place tied up in knots for the foreseeable future. And when that all comes to pass, and when USC is habitually hanging around in the middle of the PAC 10 hierarchy, Kiffin will be viewed as a fraud.

Fair or not, accurate or not, that's the picture that will be painted of him. And there will be plenty of people from his past joining in the fray to support that perception.
 
#47
#47
you don't think kiffin called his buddy pete to see how bad the sanctions are going to be before he bailed on tenn? sc is going to get a slap on the wrist.
 
#49
#49
hohenfelsvol said:
LG is hell bent and has his opinion set on LK. What LK did yesterday isn't going to improve his reputation but I'm a realist and understand how the game is played.
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And I understand what you are saying and respect that. But tell me, what has he personally done that makes you think he's got what it takes to stay somewhere and make it work? He got the Raiders job and, granted, it was a sucky place to begin with, and he managed to make it worse and to alienate someone he should have realized was his own special class of loon. So he parlays that into the UT job and skeddaldes with a one-game-over-.500 mark to go be the third or fourth choice of a program that everyone seems to think is looking at some serious problems.

Bottom line: Getting rid of Kiffin is a good thing for UT, not a bad thing.
 
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droski said:
you don't think kiffin called his buddy pete to see how bad the sanctions are going to be before he bailed on tenn? sc is going to get a slap on the wrist.
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Actually, I don't think it mattered. Kiffin's 9th grade ego is so easily appealed to that he'd have taken that job if the death penalty was announced the week before.
 
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