Thanks Phil!

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vols27 said:
We lost to Memphis,Vanderbilt and Wyoming when Fulmer was there. Of course, when we lost to Memphis, Peyton was there so it couldnt possibly be coaching.

Thanks Phil, for running the program into mediocrity while acting as though we were just a player or two away from being relevant. The rise and fall of Tennessee Football begins and ends with you.
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What a f****** idiot you are, congrats!
 
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lovavol said:
yes thanks for all you did, except letting the program go straight to hell!
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The guy gave his life to UT and gave us a NC. Fans like you kill me with the ungreatfulness. The guy is the 2nd most successful coach in UT's history. It was time for him to go. But I would take another run like the one he had in a heartbeat.
 
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99gator said:
fulmer coached at tennessee 16 years (93-08, not going to count 1992) and had two seasons where tennessee lost 6 or more.

tennessee has lost 6 or more every year since his dismissal.

during the "down years (2002-2008)", tennessee was still the 4th winningest program in the sec and had 3 10 win seasons. during these same "down" years, tennessee averaged 8 wins a season. tennessee hasn't won 8 games in a season since

in 16 years, fulmer failed to have a winning record within the conference twice. tennessee hasn't had a winning record in the conference since his dismissal
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Not to mention he had a pretty decent class coming in. Hindsight is 20/20. I wanted him gone at the time, but I would trade him any second of the day for what the program has gone through since.
 
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in truth, i think phil needed to go too.. but, i never understood why he was so denigrated.

i used to ask people if they thought the 16 years post phil would be better than the 16 years of phil. no one would take that challenge.

now, as it turns out, what many call the "down" years of 2002-2008 which are the last 7 years of phil will be better than the first 7 years post phil

from 2002 through 2008, tennessee was 57-32

since 2009, tennessee is 21-23. tennessee will have to go 36-9 over the next 3 1/2 years to equal the mark set over the last 7 years of phil. basically, if they finish this season 4-2, they have to go 10-2 for the next 3 years to do it. that's not going to happen.

the sad part is that some people still blame him for the current problems at tennessee.
 
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This fan base really didn't learn what it had until Phil was gone. 7-6, 6-7, 5-7, and a team that probably won't be better than 7-5 this year. Phil was a born and raised Tennessee man and loved this university with every fiber in his body. You don't get that very often, you really don't. I don't want to say we may never be the same but, we may never be the same again. Hope I'm wrong and JMO so don't slaughter me all you Gruden-lovers.
 
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Spectator said:
Phil,

I didn't appreciate you (especially in the early 2000s) like I should have. I didn't appreciate so many things, including:

1) The stability you offered to the program.

2) Consistent winning/competitiveness.

3) A team that didn't make huge mistakes week after week.

4) The fact that you were "Vol for Life" before it was an official, university-sanctioned program.

5) The consistency and talent of your coaching staffs.

I, for one, am looking forward to being there this Saturday to see you recognized for what you mean to Tennessee football. Go Fulmer and Go Vols! Beat Bama!

Sincerely,

Indebted Vol Fan
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Praise the lord you say the light!! I said from the get go we needed to keep coach Fulmer no disrepect to coach Dooley but look at us now. Things are moving forward its gonna take time. One of these days these fools will listen to me.
 
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99gator said:
in truth, i think phil needed to go too.. but, i never understood why he was so denigrated.

i used to ask people if they thought the 16 years post phil would be better than the 16 years of phil. no one would take that challenge.

now, as it turns out, what many call the "down" years of 2002-2008 which are the last 7 years of phil will be better than the first 7 years post phil

from 2002 through 2008, tennessee was 57-32

since 2009, tennessee is 21-23. tennessee will have to go 36-9 over the next 3 1/2 years to equal the mark set over the last 7 years of phil. basically, if they finish this season 4-2, they have to go 10-2 for the next 3 years to do it. that's not going to happen.

the sad part is that some people still blame him for the current problems at tennessee.
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2nd damn time today I've agreed with a gay-turd

just f___kin kill me
 
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TreeGreen said:
Strong post. But, 10 wins isn't necessarily the goal. If he had won the conference just one time since 2000 he'd probably still be here.

One of our own fans raised the question recently on what we all think UT is supposed to be. A powerhouse or a respectable team. Most people want a powerhouse regardless if that's possible or not. So, we have to play go fish on coaches until we find the one that can get us over our decade + long slump.
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I agree, to an extent, but look at who they lost to in the last 2 SECCG: an Auburn team that got screwed out of the BCS title game in the only year the BCS has gotten it completely wrong, and then an LSU team that won the BCS title game. And both of them were extremely close to teams that were far superior.
 
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vols27 said:
You're an idiot if you think Fulmer won that national title. Al Wilson and company would not allow it. The team won that championship! When I think of that chamionship, I remember Peerless Price, Jamal Lewis, Deon Grant, Travis Henry, Raynoch Thompson, Tee Martin, etc. not Fulmer.

When I see a coach clapping on the sideline after his qb throws a pick 6, I think of Fulmer.

Fulmer is an average coach. With the talent we have now, we would have the same record as Dooley has. Fulmer would be coaching today if were a great coach.

Get a clue!
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Yes, don't you know that out of his 152-52 record that he is only responsible for the 52 losses. His firing has opened up new doors, my God, we've beat Cincinnati and NC State, what do people want? Theres no way that a bum like Fulmer could have beaten that Big Blue Lexington powerhouse either. You wanted him gone because he couldnt beat Urban Meyer or Saban, wow thats an easy task, everybody's whippin their asses. My only beef is, if you were going to fire him, why not replace him with a better coach. If there wasnt one out there, then why replace him? And in the process, we lost Chavis, granted we had Monte Kiffin for a year. Wyoming? Saban lost to Louisiana Monroe. Wyoming, Vandy, and Memphis all would have rocked last years KY team.
 
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Spectator said:
Phil,

I didn't appreciate you (especially in the early 2000s) like I should have. I didn't appreciate so many things, including:

1) The stability you offered to the program.

2) Consistent winning/competitiveness.

3) A team that didn't make huge mistakes week after week.

4) The fact that you were "Vol for Life" before it was an official, university-sanctioned program.

5) The consistency and talent of your coaching staffs.

I, for one, am looking forward to being there this Saturday to see you recognized for what you mean to Tennessee football. Go Fulmer and Go Vols! Beat Bama!

Sincerely,

Indebted Vol Fan
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I agree with you. Fulmer cared about UT football and the fans a s well. Fulmer is the best UT football coach in my lifetime and I wish he were still the coach.
 
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whobethis16 said:
I agree, to an extent, but look at who they lost to in the last 2 SECCG: an Auburn team that got screwed out of the BCS title game in the only year the BCS has gotten it completely wrong, and then an LSU team that won the BCS title game. And both of them were extremely close to teams that were far superior.
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the only thing wrong was your statement. Auburn screwed themself by playing Div 1aa Citidel while Ok and USC played a full D1 schedule. Look up any stat you want about all three and you'll find out that they were odd man out. The BCS NC is for the best two teams in the country. They got it right.
 
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99gator said:
fulmer coached at tennessee 16 years (93-08, not going to count 1992) and had two seasons where tennessee lost 6 or more.

tennessee has lost 6 or more every year since his dismissal.

during the "down years (2002-2008)", tennessee was still the 4th winningest program in the sec and had 3 10 win seasons. during these same "down" years, tennessee averaged 8 wins a season. tennessee hasn't won 8 games in a season since

in 16 years, fulmer failed to have a winning record within the conference twice. tennessee hasn't had a winning record in the conference since his dismissal
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I am so tired of facts getting in the way of the vitriol spewed on here. Only the 'next' coach is any good..get real...
 
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vols27 said:
We lost to Memphis,Vanderbilt and Wyoming when Fulmer was there. Of course, when we lost to Memphis, Peyton was there so it couldnt possibly be coaching.

Thanks Phil, for running the program into mediocrity while acting as though we were just a player or two away from being relevant. The rise and fall of Tennessee Football begins and ends with you.
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Shut up ding dong. Worthless ****
 
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#68
You people are stupid. The man was a good coach. He brought the first ever BCS National Championship to this University. Honor him with respect.
 
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What I find crazy is the same people saying they are glad Fulmer is gone, support keeping Dooley. Fulmer needed fired with his laziness, his 8-10 wins seasons and 2 losing seasons in 17 years. Oh how I would love having 8-10 win seasons now. Oh to be respectable again. If Fulmer would take the job tomorrow for the same money as Dooley, we would actually be able to compete in 2013. The fact that Bammers would hate it, would just make it even better.
 
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Those accomplishments are great. He would not have added to that list of accomplishments if he stayed after 2008.
 
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GreveHaller said:
the only thing wrong was your statement. Auburn screwed themself by playing Div 1aa Citidel while Ok and USC played a full D1 schedule. Look up any stat you want about all three and you'll find out that they were odd man out. The BCS NC is for the best two teams in the country. They got it right.
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A system that leaves out an undefeated SEC team is surely the best way to go, guys!
 
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UTRavens said:
Those accomplishments are great. He would not have added to that list of accomplishments if he stayed after 2008.
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You have no proof to support that. That is just your opinion. His record shows he wins 3x as much as he loses. Maybe he refocuses and starts killing it on the recruiting trail. He had several good/great classes the last 4-5 years he was here. He could actually win a game we were not favored in.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
You have no proof to support that. That is just your opinion. His record shows he wins 3x as much as he loses. Maybe he refocuses and starts killing it on the recruiting trail. He had several good/great classes the last 4-5 years he was here. He could actually win a game we were not favored in.
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The 2008 recruiting class and ensuing season are my evidence. Show me evidence that the turnaround would have happened, then we'll talk.
 
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UTRavens said:
The 2008 recruiting class and ensuing season are my evidence. Show me evidence that the turnaround would have happened, then we'll talk.
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Your basing your whole opinion on 1, yes 1 season. I am basing mine on 17 years. That's all that needs to be said. :thumbsup:
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Your basing your whole opinion on 1, yes 1 season. I am basing mine on 17 years. That's all that needs to be said. :thumbsup:
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Using that logic, my team should sign Joe Montana to play quarterback. He played 16 years and was always great, so he'll totally be great now!

I want evidence that 1990s Fulmer still existed in 2009. Then we'll talk.
 
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