Thanks alot Phil and Erik

[Bo4vols]

Will the coaches ruin Eric Berry? Are DB's seem to start out great then go down hill by the time they are seniors

 

[dan4vols]

Who knows?? I doubt the coaches ever expected their Senior QB to make such a horrible decision though. It's tough to explain.

Well if it's that our highly touted recruited players that aren't being properly prepared for division 1 college football in the SEC, both physically and mentally, to not only be competitive but excellent...then I say we have the wrong folks in charge of this team.

If it's that the players that are recruited who are the best at their positions, brought to Neyland to one of the finest football traditions in the country and are developed by countless hours of instruction and conditioning and then on the competitive field just don't seem to care enough to execute, then I say we have the wrong folks in charge of this team.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Well if it's that our highly touted recruited players that aren't being properly prepared for division 1 college football in the SEC, both physically and mentally, to not only be competitive but excellent...then I say we have the wrong folks in charge of this team.

If it's that the players that are recruited who are the best at their positions, brought to Neyland to one of the finest football traditions in the country and are developed by countless hours of instruction and conditioning and then on the competitive field just don't seem to care enough to execute, then I say we have the wrong folks in charge of this team.

so you're saying that we have the wrong folks in charge of this team?

 

[Bo4vols]

Wrong folks in charge???? Someone call Mike Hamilton because I don't think he understands that or maybe he is happy with 9 wins a year.

 

[A Real Vol]

Guys for our Coaching Staff (in particular Cutcliff) to expect a rigid, average ball throwing qb, regardless of experience along with so-so wr's not to have interceptions is inexcusable. Especially when the defense played 8-9 players in the box was absolutely STUPID.

Add to that, the lack of imagination with the silly 4 to 8 yard dinks all night long over & over & over was simply asking for trouble. Not one time did we try something, anything that LSU (or anyone else) hasn't seen thousands of times before from or 8-10 play arsenal. I watched it with a 7 year old kid & he knew (even with that effective offensive delay tactic) what play we would run after the 2nd quarter.

Oh I forgot about the G-Pack or what ever they call it. It appeared to generally work, I guess it was a bit to bold for our Staff to consider using it more than they did. Or was it that those players involved didn't have the "experience" needed to run such a complex play.

 

[dan4vols]

so you're saying that we have the wrong folks in charge of this team?

I'm saying that for what ever reason this team fails to excell from either mental or physical lack of preparedness it is ultimately the responsibility of the coaching staff. It is they who make every decision, and it is they who should be on top of the attitudes and ability of all rostered players. When they fail, the team fails on the field, I think it's that simple. Before you so quickly dismiss...think a second, if CPF were fired who would hire him? I'd be highly suprised if any division 1 school would have him on a Christmas tree.

 

[jaxvol]

I think fans need to be more realistic. If we have 9 wins a year in the SEC and get the SECCG to represent the east half the time -- that should be enough.

What bothers me is that I don't see the whole team playing with heart and the coaches have no energy -- except Trooper.

We need some leaders ON the field.

Maybe next year Berry will take up the role and get in some of the DB's faces for having to cover up their mistakes.

If we loss to better team, I don't fret. When we give up like we did the second half to UF, I point at coaching.

It is like a tell me kids. If you get a low grade because you don't have the ability, I won't say anything. But if you get a low grade because you don't execute (turn in papers) I will be in your face.

 

[indyvol15]

Dude...your whole post is crap...

I have my own problems with the coaching staff...but Phillip Fulmer did NOT throw those interceptions...

John Chavis didn't miss a single tackle or assignment on defense (I'm not trying to cut the D, I thought they played well for the most part)...

David Cutcliffe didn't miss Rogers being open across the middle and throw it outside for a pick that was run back...

Cutcliffe didn't drop a fourth down pass that hit him right in the numbers...

I have issues with playcalling and player development...but these coaches are not responsible for the things that lost the game last night...

I know it's wrong to put a loss on any player or group of players but Ainge and our receivers blew it for us last night....pure and simple

The post comes from a season of players under-achieving and Fulmer getting outcoached. Read the title when it comes to big games in the last 7 yrs at least Fulmer has failed when it comes to motivating his players. Check it out and get back with me.

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[indyvol15]

Wrong folks in charge???? Someone call Mike Hamilton because I don't think he understands that or maybe he is happy with 9 wins a year.

9 wins a year wont get you a sniff of a NC. Time to find someone to jump start these kids and go to the next level. It worked for the b-ball program, we need to get rid of the shucks and dad-gummit attitude and get some accountability in the program.

 

[tennfanatic]

9 wins a year wont get you a sniff of a NC. Time to find someone to jump start these kids and go to the next level. It worked for the b-ball program, we need to get rid of the shucks and dad-gummit attitude and get some accountability in the program.

You dont have to tell me anything. We havent been to a BCS bowl game in almost ten years. Our program is steadily declining and its the Fulmer apologists that have caused this to happen. If he had everyone stepping up and calling for his name then he wouldnt be here. The only problem is that people are ok with mediocre football, well im not. With the facilities we have and the talent at UT, we should have had at least 3 SEC Championships since 1999. Also after Hamilton gives Fulmer another raise for doing nothing, we will have more seasons of mediocrity.:mega_shok:

 

[MontereyVol]

Saying our team was not mentally or physically prepared or coached well is just wrong.

One stat that is amazing is UT had ZERO penalties in the game. Thats a team that is well coached and executed.

That was one of the hardest hitting games I have seen from any team in a long time. The Defense held on even though after the first half ball possesion was 21:00+ in favor of LSU to our 8:00 thats physically prepared!

And my favorite going on on this board is we cant win by over talenting other teams anymore. UF, LSU and even UGA overall have more talent on their rosters than we do.

What it is in the end is you arent going to win SECCG if you arent even there, just ask UGA or Florida. So getting their should get some kinda love from the fans.

 

[Voluripides]

The problem with blaming Ainge is it was somebody else in some other game. It's not just one thing or one play or one position coach. They are alternating. It's almost like you could say no one's at fault.

I watch from afar and read about CPF's top this and top that. I watch the Vols when I am able and see average this and average that. Where are all of these 4 and 5 star players? And, why can't Phil find a way with the talent level he supposedly has? Where there's smoke, there's fire.

I think he's old and tired. JoPat comes to mind and what P State is doing in football. Aw Shucks! Phil should go on and be a UT good ol' boy icon. I want one of them young, good-lookin', sun glassess-wearin' coaching studs from Ohio. Spread it, Baby.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

opcorn:

 

[f1ip]

/*yawn*/

 

[rockytophigh]

The problem with blaming Ainge is it was somebody else in some other game. It's not just one thing or one play or one position coach. They are alternating. It's almost like you could say no one's at fault.

I watch from afar and read about CPF's top this and top that. I watch the Vols when I am able and see average this and average that. Where are all of these 4 and 5 star players? And, why can't Phil find a way with the talent level he supposedly has? Where there's smoke, there's fire.

I think he's old and tired. JoPat comes to mind and what P State is doing in football. Aw Shucks! Phil should go on and be a UT good ol' boy icon. I want one of them young, good-lookin', sun glassess-wearin' coaching studs from Ohio. Spread it, Baby.[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna go with ummmmmmmm........no & stay away from my children......:no:

 

[Monkey Wrench]

seriosly how can u blame fulmer? what can he do? he can only get his team together before hand..(which most of the team looked ready) only 1 person seemed to buckle and that seemed to be the QB

 

[allvol123]

seriosly how can u blame fulmer? what can he do? he can only get his team together before hand..(which most of the team looked ready) only 1 person seemed to buckle and that seemed to be the QB

I swear some of the insight in here is equivalent to what you would get from a 13 year european girl after she viewed her first football game.

 

[SWIL]

This thread = FAIL.

Can't handle pressure, huh? Did you watch the KY or Vandy games? Or is your head just stuck up your :shaking2:

 

[Voluripides]

Seriouisly, coaches ought not to stay beyond a certain point IMO. Fresh is part of the cycle of renewal and getting rid of old stale bread, even though you might eat it (not me), is a good thing, not a bad thing. Phil is old and stale.

Look how rapidly Nebraska has declined just trying to keep up with the new formations and offenses in the Big XII. The vaunted "Black Shirts" are reduced to mediocre against the teams running these more innovative offenses. Bo Pelini notwithstanding, NU will continue to get their clocks cleaned against some of those offensive concepts.

Clean house, start over, get rid of everybody associated with the Phil era and make the leap into the world of competitive football again. Take a chance that there really are better coaches and assistant coaches than ours. The recruits will follow the money, baby.

 

[GoodAiden]

What has Fulmer done? 2 SEC Championships - 1 National Championship.

Now shut up.

That was YEARS ago ... forget the past ... what has he done for us now?

The game's changing and just like Joe P and Bobby B it's slowly passing Phil by ...

I guess we can always be thankful that we're not Arkansas who's being shunned by every coach they go after!!

 

[Z06Vol]

This thread = FAIL.

Can't handle pressure, huh? Did you watch the KY or Vandy games? Or is your head just stuck up your :shaking2:

I wonder if you watched the LSU game. The "pressure" Ainge can't handle is related to being hit, not game pressure. Sure, he handles the "game" pressure fine, but he's scared to get hit, which leads to quick, ill advised throws. I have it recorded if you'd like review it.

This play from Ainge is nothing we don't know, he's done it his entire career.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I wonder if you watched the LSU game. The "pressure" Ainge can't handle is related to being hit, not game pressure. Sure, he handles the "game" pressure fine, but he's scared to get hit, which leads to quick, ill advised throws. I have it recorded if you'd like review it.

This play from Ainge is nothing we don't know, he's done it his entire career.

while I agree that he is atrocious at the first hint of a pass rush, I don't seem to recall the "big game" in which he looked like he handled the mental pressure well.