Texas jumps Alabama/Coaches poll (merged)

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Boise State does not deserve to be in the discussion of the national title. Other than Oregon, they play no one. Who did they play yesterday, San Jose State??? The BCS will favor a one loss SEC team over an undefeated Boise State. Boise has nothing to complain about if they miss the BSC title game - they need to upgrade their schedule.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Based upon? They have no run game and the D is suspect. Their schedule is a embarrassment the way it worked out. OU is awful, OSU has absolutely nothing without Bryant. Everyone else is just a joke. They have no dominating unit on the team on either side of the ball. AL does.
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Interesting assertion about the Texas D. By what objective standard do you base your claim that the Texas D is "suspect?" Because it clearly isn't the statistics.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
It's idiotic to put TX ahead of AL.
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Not really. They don't want both the #1 and #2 team to be in the SEC. That way the SEC Championship game would decide the National Championship, which would be a bummer for the BCS Championship game.:eek:hmy:
 
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Dudley Smith said:
Interesting assertion about the Texas D. By what objective standard do you base your claim that the Texas D is "suspect?" Because it clearly isn't the statistics.
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I watched them play against Oklahoma, and that Texas team wasn't in the same league as Bama and Florida.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
Interesting assertion about the Texas D. By what objective standard do you base your claim that the Texas D is "suspect?" Because it clearly isn't the statistics.
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Who are the dominant players? Where do they get to rest easy? Right now, they look solid because they haven't played any talent. Look at what they've beaten.

Note: I said suspect for a reason. I see them hammer a decent O, I'll be sold. I don't really know at this point, but didn't see any dominators against an inept OU offense, whic was the best they've seen.
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tvolsfan said:
I watched them play against Oklahoma, and that Texas team wasn't in the same league as Bama and Florida.
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And a lot of people who watched us nearly beat Bama will say the same thing about them based on that game. I won't take anything away from Bama, and Texas is far from a complete world-beater in all aspects of the game, but their defense is outstanding.
 
#36
#36
I think the top 3 really doesnt matter. The 4-8 is whats going to be hectic to figure out. It's crazy. I think UT is a Top 25 team. You guys' D will keep you in just about every ballgame.
 
#37
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I think we are definetly a top 15 team especially the way were playing right now. Defense is top 5. Offense is looking good to.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Who are the dominant players? Where do they get to rest easy? Right now, they look solid because they haven't played any talent. Look at what they've beaten.

Note: I said suspect for a reason. I see them hammer a decent O, I'll be sold. I don't really know at this point, but didn't see any dominators against an inept OU offense, whic was the best they've seen.
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Fair enough. I agree they don't haven any one player at the level of a Brian Orakpo or Derrick Johnson or Quentin Jammer, etc, but they are playing terrific team defense right now. Mizzou, OU and OSU all have credible offenses and Texas has completely shut them down. They're: tied for 2nd in the nation in turnovers gained, #3 in total defense, #1 in rushing defense, and are about 2 points per game behind Bama and UF in scoring defense.

FWIW, they are also #1 in scoring offense, although that is largely due to scores from special teams and defense. Their lack of a running game is their biggest problem, and will probably limit their offensive success against great D's from Bama or UF. I think in any game between these three the winner won't score more than 20 points.
 
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Aaron5300 said:
I think we are definetly a top 15 team especially the way were playing right now. Defense is top 5. Offense is looking good to.
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You're right about the D, but our O has only made it to the point where it can:

-exploit some, but not all mistakes by the opposing D
-refrain from destroying itself with clutch/costly turnovers
-stay on the field just long enough for our D to catch its breath
 
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Also, if UF stays healthy, they're the best of the three since Bama's offense is one-dimensional.

With the inconsistency McElroy has exhibited lately, I'm really unsure whether or not they're better than Texas at this point seeing how McCoy's found his stride.
 
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GET THIS
In the USA today poll USCjr got 15 votes and we got 4 WHATS UP WITH THAT?????


Tennessee was in the others receiving votes cat. this week for the first time

in the AP polls
USCjr actually got 1 vote we got only 3 votes

Workin our way up i think we are ranked by year end and after a bowl win we could be in top 20
 
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xrfJLong said:
GET THIS
In the USA today poll USCjr got 15 votes and we got 4 WHATS UP WITH THAT?????


Tennessee was in the others receiving votes cat. this week for the first time

in the AP polls
USCjr actually got 1 vote we got only 3 votes

Workin our way up i think we are ranked by year end and after a bowl win we could be in top 20
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Well they're 6-3 and we're 4-4. If we beat Ole Miss we might sneak in.
 
#44
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i understand that but everyone see's we a are a different team we were the first half of the season....

USCjr hasnt beat anybody that spectacular and we beat them.... im not saying we should be ranked but at least more votes than them!!
 
#46
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No 4-4 team is going to get more votes then a team with a winning record, reguardless of strength of schedule.
 
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mtvols said:
Boise State does not deserve to be in the discussion of the national title. Other than Oregon, they play no one. Who did they play yesterday, San Jose State??? The BCS will favor a one loss SEC team over an undefeated Boise State. Boise has nothing to complain about if they miss the BSC title game - they need to upgrade their schedule.
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Oklahoma and Oregon. OU isn't that bad, and they had Bradford to start that game. How many powerhouses do you expect BSU to play every year? Who has UF or Bama or Texas beat that is better? This is just the 'good ole boy' BCS trying to leave out the mid-majors. Ever since BSU's win vs OU in the bowl game, they should've been considered legit.
 
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mtvols said:
Boise State does not deserve to be in the discussion of the national title. Other than Oregon, they play no one. Who did they play yesterday, San Jose State??? The BCS will favor a one loss SEC team over an undefeated Boise State. Boise has nothing to complain about if they miss the BSC title game - they need to upgrade their schedule.
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Exactly.

One of the biggest challenges for any team is to play with consistency and avoid devastating mental errors -- week in and week out. In BCS conferences, if you don't play well, there's a fairly good chance you'll get beat, even if you're playing against one of the weaker teams in the league. Boise St. basically had to get past one tough opponent in its opener and the rest of its schedule is a cakewalk. They can have off games with numerous mistakes and still win. Oregon is a tough out, but there are plenty of teams out there that once they got past that game could go undefeated against the rest of Boise St.'s schedule. Margin of victory against weak opponents is a lame argument too, IMO. It's much easier to slaughter most of the teams on a schedule full of patsies with weak defenses than it is to go undefeated against a tougher schedule full of teams with good defenses.

If Oregon and Boise St. both win out it's fairly likely Oregon could pass Boise State in the BCS rankings.
 
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#49
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If UT wins out and goes 9-4, UT will finish the season in the top 20. Nice start to his career at UT.
 
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