"Tennessee's program is now Martin's" - ESPN

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vol66 said:
How much did Maymon produce when he was coming off the bench for Stephen Pearl?
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Maymon was a national recruit who clearly had talent. But you are right, Derek Reese and AJ Davis are the next maymon. Now if we just have 2 or 3 more guys at the end of our bench come on and do the same we will be competitive. Get real.
 
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BOP said:
Maymon was a national recruit who clearly had talent. But you are right, Derek Reese and AJ Davis are the next maymon. Now if we just have 2 or 3 more guys at the end of our bench come on and do the same we will be competitive. Get real.
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Like I said, I think I'll wait and see. I like the class we have, I love Moore...you go on predicting the future and trying to scare folks though...
 
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vol66 said:
Like I said, I think I'll wait and see. I like the class we have, I love Moore...you go on predicting the future and trying to scare folks though...
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There is nothing to like about the recruiting class. The roster next year will not be much better, if at all, than Auburn, miss state, and south Carolina were this year. It people can't see it then they are blind.
 
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BOP said:
There is nothing to like about the recruiting class. The roster next year will not be much better, if at all, than Auburn, miss state, and south Carolina were this year. It people can't see it then they are blind.
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I do wear glasses and I admit, as I age, my eye sight IS worse.

Let me tell you what I see...

I like Thompson. He can flat out pass the ball. He's gotten some valuable experience and he's going to know what the expectations are defensively.

Richardson, I may be blind as a bat, but he's the best defender I think I've ever seen wear the Orange...and all of a sudden he can shoot.

Hubbs, all we have to go on isn't much, but he was highly touted, can't wait to see what he can do.

Armani Moore could be the next Richardson, even more physical.

Stokes, he might come back, I'm not counting on it, but if Martin is back, he just might.

Pops...he's a big dude, if Stokes doesn't come back, it will be interesting, what strides he might make defensively...

Reese has gotten valuable experience this year and, to be honest, I'm not sure what to make of Mr. Davis at this point.

The new guys are athletic, can't wait to see what they are about.

So...we're in the sweet sixteen and we get a chance at top 10 Michigan...I think we gon give them a game.
 
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We are all giddy about the current run in the NCAAT ....However, I remember about 10-12 years ago in Mike Davis's second year at Indiana when he took the Hoosiers to the NCAA finals. Subsequent years at Indiana and UAB proved him to be a mediocre recruiter and coach. Hopefully, Coach Martin will fare better at UT.
 
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I just hope he gets properly compensated and gets at the very least a 3 year extension so the kids he recruits can look forward to him being their coach.
 
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lostsheep said:
I'm going to start underperforming on my job tomorrow and do so until about December. Then, I'm going to start living up to expectations and doing a good job through next March.

Hopefully people will then write articles about how great I am and my boss will consider giving me a raise. Also, I expect all those who were critical of my underachieving to write sappy notes full of b.s. about how sorry they were for disrespecting me.

I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Hopefully it will go with the same result you wished for the team and CCM.
 
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Why dont we just celebrate this run instead of freaking out about next year. There are a lot of factors that can change next year. The transfer from tsu, stokes staying, hubbs stepping up etc. On paper it doesnt look like next year's team is very talented but lets see how it works out. Im more interested in seeing what Martin can do in recruiting with the success and an extension. First year he had ncaa looming which effected the players coming in the 2nd year. This past year there was so much hot seat talk Im sure it effected it. Now lets see what he can do with no excuses. I expect a couple really good players will want to play for Martin.
 
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casetopia said:
I don't think he was worried about some constructive criticism. I think maybe by "doubters" he's talking about the 36,000 plus people that signed a petition to get him fired.
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Not accurate. Petition called for Bruce Pearl to be hired if there was ever a coaching change. Petition was stupid and meaningless - but it was not to get him fired. He could only be fired as a result of his and his teams performance.

It only had momentum because they were underperforming so badly.
 
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Tennessee is on the front page of ESPN again...

Tennessee coach Cuonzo Martin went from hot seat to Sweet 16 - ESPN

Picked to make Elite 8...

10 bold predictions for the Sweet 16 - ESPN

Tennessee with good upset odds againt Michigan...

NCAA tournament -- Can Tennessee Volunteers continue slaying Giants? - ESPN

This shouldn’t be a surprise. Tennessee might be sitting in the Sweet 16 as a No. 11 seed, but truth be told, that number never represented the Volunteers’ true ability.

Heading into the tournament, our statistical model pegged the Vols as the nation’s 22nd-best team. KenPom.com said Tennessee ranked 11th nationally. So when the Vols knocked off a sixth-seeded UMass squad that was as overseeded as they were underseeded and followed that up by dispatching Mercer, they weren’t shocking the world. They were playing to form.

Now, as the Vols prepare to face Michigan on Friday night, it’s evident beyond the computers that Tennessee is for real. With one Giant already brought low, can Tennessee add another notch to its belt?

Our model gives the Vols a heck of a chance. In addition to Tennessee’s demonstrated strength, Michigan is far from impervious, sporting a Giant rating of 79.9 on a 100-point scale. After factoring in Tennessee’s Killer rating and historical similarities, the Vols end up with a 35.4 percent chance of knocking off the Midwest’s No. 2 seed. And that seems about right.

The game will be a fascinating skirmish between a Killer that plays more a like a Giant and a Giant that acts more like a Killer. In fact, were Tennessee a Giant, it would have a higher rating (85.3) than Michigan, and the Wolverines sport a better Killer rating (51.4) than the Vols (39.6).

That difference is evident in each team’s offensive system. The Wolverines launch 3-pointer after 3-pointer, with treys accounting for 40.3 percent of their shot attempts. The Vols pound it inside to Jarnell Stokes and Jeronne Maymon, who either score or get the ball back; Tennessee ranks fourth in the nation in offensive rebounding (39.8 percent of misses).

That stylistic difference is crystallized at the power forward position. Although Stokes is a load inside for Tennessee, Glenn Robinson III is essentially an additional wing, helping John Beilein execute his four-out offense. Stokes will have trouble chasing Robinson around the perimeter; Robinson will be hard-pressed to keep Stokes off the glass. In a game full of potential fault lines that could tilt the ground in favor of either squad, that matchup is the epicenter.

Were the Vols more of a traditional Giant Killer, you would want to see them attack Michigan with an additional risk-seeking weapon beyond offensive rebounding. But the Vols just don’t have the personnel to start bombing from deep or pressuring the ball to force turnovers, and besides, the Wolverines do a fantastic job of protecting the ball and are more than adequate at guarding the arc. No, Tennessee will try to bludgeon Michigan on the glass. Considering that the teams are separated by only eight spots in the model’s latest power ratings, that conventional approach might be all it takes for Tennessee to advance to the regional final.
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Cleanthony Early among top NCAA tournament players - College Basketball - ESPN

4. Jarnell Stokes | F | Tennessee Volunteers

The Vols underperformed for much of the season, failing to reach a level of consistency needed to be a contending team. While the team was showing flashes, Stokes kept going to work and putting up numbers. In Tennessee's three NCAA games, Stokes averaged 20.3 points, 15.0 rebounds and 2.3 assists while shooting higher than 56 percent from the floor and making 25-of-29 from the free throw line. Stokes needs to be boxed out on every possession, but the question is, how many guys do you need to do it?
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Fullfillmer said:
Not accurate. Petition called for Bruce Pearl to be hired if there was ever a coaching change. Petition was stupid and meaningless - but it was not to get him fired. He could only be fired as a result of his and his teams performance.

It only had momentum because they were underperforming so badly.
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This. I signed the petition only to bring back Bruce if a change were to be made. I said all along if we weren't bringing Bruce back we should keep CCM. Now that Bruce is history, it is a moot point. Cuonzo has met expectations , a sweet 16 appearance, with this talented team. Anything more is overachieving in my opinion. Give the man a raise and extension.
 
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vol66 said:
I do wear glasses and I admit, as I age, my eye sight IS worse.

Let me tell you what I see...

I like Thompson. He can flat out pass the ball. He's gotten some valuable experience and he's going to know what the expectations are defensively.

Richardson, I may be blind as a bat, but he's the best defender I think I've ever seen wear the Orange...and all of a sudden he can shoot.

Hubbs, all we have to go on isn't much, but he was highly touted, can't wait to see what he can do.

Armani Moore could be the next Richardson, even more physical.

Stokes, he might come back, I'm not counting on it, but if Martin is back, he just might.

Pops...he's a big dude, if Stokes doesn't come back, it will be interesting, what strides he might make defensively...

Reese has gotten valuable experience this year and, to be honest, I'm not sure what to make of Mr. Davis at this point.

The new guys are athletic, can't wait to see what they are about.

So...we're in the sweet sixteen and we get a chance at top 10 Michigan...I think we gon give them a game.
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All good points. Next year we will see:

A more athletic front court;

An easier OOC schedule with no visits to Wichita, Xavier, etc. to allow this young team to grow before the SEC games;

A healthy 5-star wing player in Hubbs;

A SOPH PG with experience;

And maybe a 6-9 transfer;

All led by Richardson on both ends of the court and coached by Martin.
 
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i love this time of year.. the time when all us vol fans turn into college hoops junkies, go from trashing our team to saying F it FINAL 4 baby!! I know I certainly did that..

should be a great game friday.. worried UMICH will rain 3s and run us out the gym.. but if its a close one i think stokes and the boys on pure muscle gets this one.

Go Vols Beat Michigan!:hi:
 
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I think with the self-confidence we have developed in the last three games, this should be a good one. UT will not be able to jump out and hold a lead on these guys, they will have to pound it inside and play great defense. I think this game will stay at a 4 point swing back and forth for most of the game. Hopefully TN will stay mentally strong through this as it will get tough and they may find themselves behind at times as much as 8. They will need the resolve to stay positive and keep punching them in the mouth. Hopefully they are working on pressuring the perimeter to at least agitate the guys attempting all those three's. I think one of the biggest keys to us pulling this out is if we can get several of their guys in foul trouble trying to guard Stokes/Maymon. Richardson, Barton, Moore, and McRae will need to push the whole game....
 
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Michigan is a lot like Iowa in Offensive/defensive Efficiency. I look for this game to be a lot like our game versus Iowa without the tournament jitters we experienced the first 10 minutes of the Iowa game.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Michigan is a lot like Iowa in Offensive/defensive Efficiency. I look for this game to be a lot like our game versus Iowa without the tournament jitters we experienced the first 10 minutes of the Iowa game.
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But playing against a better team evens that out



Also, Maymon will be a defensive liability. I say put Moore and Reese in more often...
 
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JackHVFL said:
But playing against a better team evens that out



Also, Maymon will be a defensive liability. I say put Moore and Reese in more often...
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That is far from accurate. Reese is tuurible on defense. And Maymon moves his feet very well for somebody his size. He is a very good team defender (talking, being in proper help position, etc). Now depending on the flow of the game, I do agree that Moore could see more minutes than usual for defensive purposes. He would match-up well with Robinson.
 
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lostsheep said:
I'm going to start underperforming on my job tomorrow and do so until about December. Then, I'm going to start living up to expectations and doing a good job through next March.

Hopefully people will then write articles about how great I am and my boss will consider giving me a raise. Also, I expect all those who were critical of my underachieving to write sappy notes full of b.s. about how sorry they were for disrespecting me.

I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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McDonalds doesn't work like that
 
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Martin will never have any success without people/media mentioning that a petition to fire him reached 36k signatures. He will be asked about it after every big win, "how does it feel to prove Tennessee fans wrong?"

Tennessee is honestly better off just cutting ties with him, if he doesn't leave first.
 
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