Tennessee's offense has to get more explosive to win SEC games. Here's one fix.

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"Because of this running game, it’s always going to be fairly easy for Jones’ staff to set up UT’s receivers with one-on-one opportunities. Opponents are not going to want to allow Hurd to get loose to the sideline, where he can build up speed and use his length to stiff arm, so they are going to tend to send defenders into the box.

Developing the senior Dobbs as a passer is going to take more patience, so punishing opponents with deep throws isn’t going to solve all of the Vols’ problems overnight.

A quicker fix would be to get the ball to RB Alvin Kamara. He has 15 touches for 75 yards so far this season, and he was far more explosive than Hurd last season, when he also contributed to the return game, which might've been the best part of UT's offense, in a way. The 5’10, 195-pounder adds a different dimension, a quick start and explosiveness that could make a huge difference."

"When you get the ball to an athlete like Kamara in space, you have a margin for error. What’s more, it’s easy for the Vols to involve him in the plays they’re already executing well (power, counter, zone read) by either having him run screens, quick routes, or sweeps attached to their main runs.

Many of Kamara’s touches have been basic runs, where he’s not necessarily an upgrade over Hurd or Dobbs. If they can get him 10 touches a game, receiving the ball in space like in the example above, they can boost their weak passing numbers and gain some of the explosiveness they’ll need to outscore big opponents."

Tennessee's offense has to get more explosive to win SEC games. Here's one fix. - SBNation.com
 
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weallvol said:
"Developing the senior Dobbs as a passer is going to take more patience
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Sorry man but we are in Dobb's 4th year. JD is the player he is. I seriously doubt he is going to improve much more passing while at Tennessee. Patience is not the answer for fans wanting a better passing attack. Well, kind of if you consider waiting for a QB with a stronger arm and more accuracy. That said I am a JD fan but knowing what he has done at UT since his 1st year tells me not to hold my breath for it.
 
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Saw this piece and thought about mentioning it elsewhere, but the analysis they gave was lacking. They essentially just said give the ball to Kamara more and that's it. This wasn't done by my boys on rockytoptalk
 
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VOL-uh-tile said:
Saw this piece and thought about mentioning it elsewhere, but the analysis they gave was lacking. They essentially just said give the ball to Kamara more and that's it. This wasn't done by my boys on rockytoptalk
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Getting Kamara the ball more in open space would help, dude is a baller, and yeah that was from rockytoptalk.
 
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weallvol said:
Getting Kamara the ball more in open space would help, dude is a baller, and yeah that was from rockytoptalk.
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Never denied that Kamara needs the ball. He's needed it since we played bowling green. But suggesting that giving the ball to one player more than we already are will fix our offense through explosive plays is a simplistic view. And this article was written by Ian Boyd who writes about any cfb team that could get him views. He's not affiliated with the RTT team, just SBnation.
 
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weallvol said:
"Because of this running game, it’s always going to be fairly easy for Jones’ staff to set up UT’s receivers with one-on-one opportunities. Opponents are not going to want to allow Hurd to get loose to the sideline, where he can build up speed and use his length to stiff arm, so they are going to tend to send defenders into the box.

Developing the senior Dobbs as a passer is going to take more patience, so punishing opponents with deep throws isn’t going to solve all of the Vols’ problems overnight.

A quicker fix would be to get the ball to RB Alvin Kamara. He has 15 touches for 75 yards so far this season, and he was far more explosive than Hurd last season, when he also contributed to the return game, which might've been the best part of UT's offense, in a way. The 5’10, 195-pounder adds a different dimension, a quick start and explosiveness that could make a huge difference."

"When you get the ball to an athlete like Kamara in space, you have a margin for error. What’s more, it’s easy for the Vols to involve him in the plays they’re already executing well (power, counter, zone read) by either having him run screens, quick routes, or sweeps attached to their main runs.

Many of Kamara’s touches have been basic runs, where he’s not necessarily an upgrade over Hurd or Dobbs. If they can get him 10 touches a game, receiving the ball in space like in the example above, they can boost their weak passing numbers and gain some of the explosiveness they’ll need to outscore big opponents."

Tennessee's offense has to get more explosive to win SEC games. Here's one fix. - SBNation.com
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1. Don't think anyone is really scared of Hurd getting to the sideline, that's not his game. Does his damage between the tackles.

2. Dobbs is a senior, there's neither time nor patience for him to "develop". He is what he is and we can win a lot of games with him this year if Butch just lets him play.

3. Kamara weighs 215, not 195....20lbs is a big difference.

4. I agree with their general points, Kamara is definitely more explosive. He needs more than 10 touches per game IMHO....more like 15 would be better.
 
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Taking shots down field is the answer. Even if it's a miss they have to defend because they can't afford to allow a big play against a grind it out team.

The good news is we have talented players that can execute the deep ball.
 
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weallvol said:
"Because of this running game, it’s always going to be fairly easy for Jones’ staff to set up UT’s receivers with one-on-one opportunities. Opponents are not going to want to allow Hurd to get loose to the sideline, where he can build up speed and use his length to stiff arm, so they are going to tend to send defenders into the box.

Developing the senior Dobbs as a passer is going to take more patience, so punishing opponents with deep throws isn’t going to solve all of the Vols’ problems overnight.

A quicker fix would be to get the ball to RB Alvin Kamara. He has 15 touches for 75 yards so far this season, and he was far more explosive than Hurd last season, when he also contributed to the return game, which might've been the best part of UT's offense, in a way. The 5’10, 195-pounder adds a different dimension, a quick start and explosiveness that could make a huge difference."

"When you get the ball to an athlete like Kamara in space, you have a margin for error. What’s more, it’s easy for the Vols to involve him in the plays they’re already executing well (power, counter, zone read) by either having him run screens, quick routes, or sweeps attached to their main runs.

Many of Kamara’s touches have been basic runs, where he’s not necessarily an upgrade over Hurd or Dobbs. If they can get him 10 touches a game, receiving the ball in space like in the example above, they can boost their weak passing numbers and gain some of the explosiveness they’ll need to outscore big opponents."

Tennessee's offense has to get more explosive to win SEC games. Here's one fix. - SBNation.com
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idk. offense is built around Dobbs.when he goes down and it's going to happen.i sure hope not. its gonna be a hard team to watch. being that this staff is so committed to dormady.
 
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VOL-uh-tile said:
Never denied that Kamara needs the ball. He's needed it since we played bowling green. But suggesting that giving the ball to one player more than we already are will fix our offense through explosive plays is a simplistic view. And this article was written by Ian Boyd who writes about any cfb team that could get him views. He's not affiliated with the RTT team, just SBnation.
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Giving Kamara the ball more is not a simplistic move he was more explosive in the short passing game last year and can be again, after all the coaches said he would have an expanded role in this offense so lets see it. Sure going downfield to our big receivers would help, also not too mention more efficient oline play would also help but we need to get our best playmakers the ball.
I take it you write for RTT?
 
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weallvol said:
Getting Kamara the ball more in open space would help, dude is a baller, and yeah that was from rockytoptalk.
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The problem is that by now everybody knows that's our one and only alternative play on offense - other than running Hurd or Dobbs. In first two games defenses have been jumping into those passing lanes in front of Kamara which is not surprising given that DC's watched enough of our film from last year to figure this out. The solution was supposed to be for Dobbs to evolve into an actual QB who can at least somewhat throw the ball to keep the defenses hones, but unfortunately that does not look likely to happen at all. Of course pathetic o-line is making all this even more difficult.
 
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KBVol said:
1. Don't think anyone is really scared of Hurd getting to the sideline, that's not his game. Does his damage between the tackles.

2. Dobbs is a senior, there's neither time nor patience for him to "develop". He is what he is and we can win a lot of games with him this year if Butch just lets him play.

3. Kamara weighs 215, not 195....20lbs is a big difference.

4. I agree with their general points, Kamara is definitely more explosive. He needs more than 10 touches per game IMHO....more like 15 would be better.
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When I hear the excuse that we don't run Kamara as much b/c hes a scat back. Hes 215 that weight is closer to a power back than a scat back to me.

Also the O-line is not great. Faster RB's help bad line play b/c they hit the hole faster, so the line doesn't have to sustain their blocks as long.

No idea why hes not getting more carries inside the tackles.

He should see 10 carries, and 15 total touches minimum per game.
 
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We should be in the offset I formation way more often. Atleast 1 every set of downs in my opinion. Preferably 1st or 3rd/4th and short
 
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TheEndlessEnigma said:
Easier fix would be a real coaching staff not running an offense that belongs in the FCS.
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wrong, right coach.. wrong o-line coach who can't teach foot work and technique...unless he proves us wrong the rest of the season.

how many years does an o-line coach get when they under preform every year ?
 
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Alvin Kamara is fast, really fast. I saw in the VA Tech game they had Kamara and Hurd in the backfield at the same time. If you have those 2 and Dobbs that would have to give the Defense something to think about. BJ could do a lot with those 3 guys back there
 
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white65 said:
This

When I hear the excuse that we don't run Kamara as much b/c hes a scat back. Hes 215 that weight is closer to a power back than a scat back to me.

Also the O-line is not great. Faster RB's help bad line play b/c they hit the hole faster, so the line doesn't have to sustain their blocks as long.

No idea why hes not getting more carries inside the tackles.

He should see 10 carries, and 15 total touches minimum per game.
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We agree 100%. AK's superior burst and quickness should help him scoot through a crease that Hurd just can't get through. OL wouldn't need to create as big a hole, nor would they need to stay on their blocks as long. And as we've both pointed out, AK ain't the 180lb scatback so many seem to think he is. He's 215lbs....that's a pretty good sized back.
 
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Our Defense has only been given up 10 points in the second half this season. If we play smart and don't turn over the ball I think we will be good.
 
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nagle said:
wrong, right coach.. wrong o-line coach who can't teach foot work and technique...unless he proves us wrong the rest of the season.

how many years does an o-line coach get when they under preform every year ?
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not saying you are wrong but it always falls to the head coach and who and how he hires. Cbj has received extremely well under the circumstances. Should he get better and things work I will eat a barrel of crow.
 
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How, though? We've tried to get it to him on a few bubble screens, but they're so telegraphed that the defense can see it from a mile away. The TE can open this offense up
 
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