Tennessee w/ Lame = Bama w/ Francione

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VolGirlinMaryvill

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Seems like this betrayal is eerily similar to what Bama went through in the early 2000's when D. Francione jumped on a plane and went to Texas A&M. They made the mistake of responding with a panic hire and were down in the dumps with mediocrity and coaching turnover until the found the right guy in Saban.

I don't want to see us make the same mistake by saying "we've got have a coach, any coach, by Friday." And I don't want to see us screw up the next five years trying to salvage a recruiting class by Friday. The best candidates are locked up for this year. What if we named Kippy interim coach for 2010, getting us some stability in the short term while buying us time to find the right coach for the long term (i.e. to make us forget the name 'Lane Kiffin')?
 
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Not only will this destroy this year recruiting class, it will destroy next year's as well. Not many players are going to go to a situation where they do not know who the coach is. Most of this year's recruits would leave and next year it would be hard to recruit players who do not know who the coach is. If you went by your timeline, you would likely not hire a coach until next December after the season. The team is already down quite a bit with lack of scholarship players due to people leaving, this would create others leaving I would think. You could be looking at a situation where you would only have about 50-60 scholarship players and terrible depth. Can you say SMU all over again?
 
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I'm not sure which is the greater betrayal. I never liked Kiffin from day one. He was always a punk. I was surprised more of ya'll didn't see through him and am shocked USC hired him. Whether a lot of you will admit or not, you dodged a bullet by USC taking him off your hands. Too much more time in Knoxville and your program would've been trashed.
 
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Except that Fran left UA with more time to tie down recruits. Of course Price was a debacle, but he was gone after the kids were locked in to the university. I think what Kiffin did was way worse.
 
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Actually I thought David Shula did a very admirable job getting through the probations and other problems. He put a competitive program in place and Saban won with his recruits. Shula deserves more than he gets in credit.
 
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I agree that Lame's betrayal was worse. But the effects are similar...as is the danger of making a knee-jerk, panic reaction and hire.
 
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OrangeByBirth said:
Actually I thought David Shula did a very admirable job getting through the probations and other problems. He put a competitive program in place and Saban won with his recruits. Shula deserves more than he gets in credit.
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You mean Mike Shula?
 
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Probably don't really want to hear a bammer's opinion.........................but, this is a dead on assessment. If Hamilton screws up this hire, TN could be screwed for years to come.
This recruiting class is basically done for. Sorry for your misery, good luck.
 
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OrangeByBirth said:
Actually I thought David Shula did a very admirable job getting through the probations and other problems. He put a competitive program in place and Saban won with his recruits. Shula deserves more than he gets in credit.
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It was Mike...David runs a chain of steakhouses now I believe.

You don't know much about what was going on w/ Shula in charge if you think that. We were going nowhere fast. Saban can coach players up regardless of who recruits them. However, it took three of his own recruiting classes mixed with the ones from Shula who bought into his philosophy to win big.
 
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XXL TideFan said:
Probably don't really want to hear a bammer's opinion.........................but, this is a dead on assessment. If Hamilton screws up this hire, TN could be screwed for years to come.
This recruiting class is basically done for. Sorry for your misery, good luck.
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Ironically, our Bama "friends" are probably the closest and best sympathizers for what we are going through right now.
 
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OrangeByBirth said:
So he likes strippers... so what? He's done a good job of recovering. Perhaps a new name to consider?
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Nothing wrong with liking strippers per se, but getting hired, getting into trouble, and getting fired before even making it close enough to sniff football season is a debacle.
 
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