Tennessee vs the Number under Butch

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I wanted to research Tennessee's record under Butch related to the Vegas line for our games.

Games we are favored by a touchdown or more 11-0
Games we are a touchdown or more underdog 0-11
Games with a pointspread less than a touchdown 6-6

Record against the spread overall 17-17

Draw your own conclusions, just wanted to share.

Edit: If I wasn't clear enough for some that don't seem to get it, the first three are our record straight up in thost type games. 17-17 is against the spread.
 
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Now I see. You are talking actual record, not record against the spread.

Edit: I'm still confused
 
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Nope! We were heavily favored in our last two and failed to cover both. May have been true before the last two games. Edit- just read the thread again, I'm stupid and don't comprehend very well. You are correct OP!
 
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Vol in said:
Yeah, 17-17 vs. the spread.
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We lost that game in Vegas if we only won by 24. Which would mean we aren't 11-0 when favored by a touchdown or more in Vegas. Also, lost to Alabama by 5 and they where favored by 14 so we won that game in Vegas.
 
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Volman09 said:
Weren't we favored by 41 against north Texas?
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OP didn't quite get it right. Butch hasn't covered the spread in all of the games we're favored by a touchdown or more. We've just won those games straight up.

His overall record against the spread would be interesting to see though.
 
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Only conclusion that I draw is that the spread is pretty consistent. I would expect it to be since it is set to make money.
 
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Fighting Possum said:
I wanted to research Tennessee's record under Butch related to the Vegas line for our games.

Games we are favored by a touchdown or more 11-0
Games we are a touchdown or more underdog 0-11
Games with a pointspread less than a touchdown 6-6

Record against the spread overall 17-17

Draw your own conclusions, just wanted to share.
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It tells me I hope we keep the streak alive Saturday. It also reaffirms why Butch better continue recruiting his ass off.
 
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Fighting Possum said:
I wanted to research Tennessee's record under Butch related to the Vegas line for our games.

Games we are favored by a touchdown or more 11-0
Games we are a touchdown or more underdog 0-11
Games with a pointspread less than a touchdown 6-6

Record against the spread overall 17-17

Draw your own conclusions, just wanted to share.
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The conclusion is...Vegas is good. They didn't build those fancy properties by losing truckloads of cash.

Or, it is all fixed like wrasslin'
 
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Of our four losses, we were favored to win three. Then we almost upset Bama, a two-score favorite on the road, and beat UGA when we were 3-point dog.

Three near-consecutive double-digit blown losses late in the 4th Qtr is almost statistically impossible, so UT is a tough team to predict.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
The conclusion is...Vegas is good. They didn't build those fancy properties by losing truckloads of cash.

Or, it is all fixed like wrasslin'
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How dare you speak against the sanctity of wrasslin!
 
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Volman09 said:
We lost that game in Vegas if we only won by 24. Which would mean we aren't 11-0 when favored by a touchdown or more in Vegas. Also, lost to Alabama by 5 and they where favored by 14 so we won that game in Vegas.
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Good grief. We won the North Texas game in which we were favored by more than a TD which is part of the 11-0. We lost the North Texas game against the spread which is part of the 17-17.
 
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born-n-raisedvol said:
OP didn't quite get it right. Butch hasn't covered the spread in all of the games we're favored by a touchdown or more. We've just won those games straight up.

His overall record against the spread would be interesting to see though.
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I posted the number against the spread if you had read it. I didn't fail to get it right at all, I was simply telling you how we fair in those type situations...I.e. as a favorite, as a dog and in toss up games. But 17-17 vs the spread is also in the original post!
 
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Fighting Possum said:
I wanted to research Tennessee's record under Butch related to the Vegas line for our games.

Games we are favored by a touchdown or more 11-0
Games we are a touchdown or more underdog 0-11
Games with a pointspread less than a touchdown 6-6

Record against the spread overall 17-17

Draw your own conclusions, just wanted to share.

Edit: If I wasn't clear enough for some that don't seem to get it, the first three are our record straight up in thost type games. 17-17 is against the spread.
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I hope the stats play out. I have an employee from Mizzou and we have a nice wager going.
 
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where do you look these records up? what was the spread in the bowl game last year? just curious.
 
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For comparison's sake, though probably unfair to choose Saban:

Alabama went 43-29-1 (59.72 percent) against the spread in Saban’s first six seasons.

Eight of the 29 non-covers came in Saban’s first year.

Obviously included the 21-14 loss to Louisiana-Monroe as a 24.5-point home fav.

Sunshine Pumper view: in a best-case-scenario example we see a coach winning natty's only slightly higher than Butch ATS. Butch'll likely close the gap in his next few years and Saban struggled early too.

Negavol View: Butch needs to outcoach Saban if we are going to catch and pass Bama, the only way we will get back to the top. Clearly he isn't going to get that done.
 
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So if we are favored by more than 7 then it's a sure victory so we might not cover the spread but we will win, just win and move on to Vandy.
 
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terrypedigo said:
So if we are favored by more than 7 then it's a sure victory so we might not cover the spread but we will win, just win and move on to Vandy.
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Line has fallen from -9 to -7 on most sites, and it might break significantly lower depending on what the wind speeds are looking like. I.E., are we looking at a 28-21 kind of game or a 14-10 kind of game.

Since, 7-3 would not surprise me in the least. I'd say we'll be around -6 at kickoff.
 
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