Tennessee vs Oregon: The Trenches

#26
#26
Of course it's always starts in the trenches.:eek:hmy:
My only concern is can we go all out for 60 minutes because that is what it will take.
Of course can the Ducks go all out for 60 minutes in the heat and humidity? I believe we can hang with them early but for how long?
We need to jump on the Ducks early!:clapping:
GO VOLS!
 
#28
#28
I'm not impressed by the fact that we've got bigger offensive linemen. Big deal: We had very big OL for the last several years under the Fulminator--and none of them could block! Va. Tech is a bigger team than Boise State--we see how that turned out. UT's offensive woes in recent years are party attributable to this outdated idea that you can still outmuscle people with the run game and throw 7 yard out patterns and win games. Saban wins with a mostly old-school offensive style--but he's an exception; otherwise, the game has changed.
 
#30
#30
So biggest guy always wins right? Does experience matter at all into the equation?

How many starts combined do the UT linemen have?
 
#31
#31
uobassman said:
To me, the weight issue is for the most part a non issue. There is a reason our O-line has been rated as high as second in the country. Even if they are on the lighter side, they are the fastest and most agile line in the country...which is what is best for our offense.

Our D-line is small, but that only became an issue in one game last year...Stanford. And I respect Tennessee a lot, but their brand new O-line isn't as good as Stanfords was, and they don't have a Gerhart in the backfield. Our D-line than makes up for not being 300lbs with incredible speed and endurance. And besides, we'll play 8 or 9 D linemen (a few of which break the magic 300lb mark), and 7 or 8 linebackers. Getting worn out will most likely not be an issue.
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Unfortunately I agree, the size issue is much overblown. Smaller D-linemen can be very effective if they are quick to shed blocks and be disruptive. In 2005 I think our o-line averaged 330 lbs and those guys couldn't get out of their own way. Fortunately for us, we have a very good o-line coach and our linemen, while inexperienced, are generally fairly agile for their size.
 
#32
#32
armchair said:
UT's offensive woes in recent years are party attributable to this outdated idea that you can still outmuscle people with the run game and throw 7 yard out patterns and win games. Saban wins with a mostly old-school offensive style--but he's an exception; otherwise, the game has changed.
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Success is never outdated and systems are far, far less important than how well you execute them.

tOSU, USC, Cal, LSU, OU, Stanford,.... just a few schools in addition to Bama that have recently had great success with pro-style power offenses. There's a lot of "romance" associated with spread O's right now but D's have made the adjustment and production has dropped back in line with other schemes.

There is a reason the NFL has not gone to the spread option or the end around spread sweeps and such... they aren't as difficult to defend as a well executed zone read play to a good power runner.
 
#33
#33
uobassman said:
Our D-line is small, but that only became an issue in one game last year...Stanford. And I respect Tennessee a lot, but their brand new O-line isn't as good as Stanfords was, and they don't have a Gerhart in the backfield. Our D-line than makes up for not being 300lbs with incredible speed and endurance. And besides, we'll play 8 or 9 D linemen (a few of which break the magic 300lb mark), and 7 or 8 linebackers. Getting worn out will most likely not be an issue.
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They lack experience and may not be ready for primetime... but don't underestimate the talent UT has on the OL right now... especially the younger guys.
 
#34
#34
Since no one responded about experience, here is what I could find.


Rank Team #OLstarts
1 GEORGIA 155
2 FLORIDA ST 146
3 LA TECH 126
4 MINNESOTA 114
5 N TEXAS 113
6 AUBURN 111
7 COLORADO 109
8 BC 108
9 WISCONSIN 107
10 TEMPLE 107
11 W MICHIGAN 107
12 FRESNO ST 107
13 C MICHIGAN 104
14 TOLEDO 100
15 S FLORIDA 99
16 SAN JOSE ST 95
17 BOISE ST 94
18 OHIO ST 93
19 MIDDLE TENN 93
20 BALL ST 92
21 UCLA 92
22 RICE 91
23 UTAH ST 91
24 NO’WESTERN 89
25 IOWA ST 89
26 UTAH 89
27 CLEMSON 88
28 SMU 88
29 WASHINGTON 88
30 TULANE 87
31 UAB 87
32 FLORIDA 87
33 MIAMI OH 86
34 UNLV 86
35 KANSAS 85
36 OREGON 85
37 WASH ST 85
38 MISS ST 85
39 HOUSTON 84
40 AKRON 84
41 MICHIGAN 82
42 E CAROLINA 82
43 BUFFALO 82
44 MISSOURI 80
45 MEMPHIS 80
46 ARKANSAS ST 78
47 ARKANSAS 77
48 UCF 76
49 E MICHIGAN 76
50 NEBRASKA 75
51 DUKE 74
52 CONNECTICUT 74
53 LOUISVILLE 74
54 OREGON ST 74
55 ARMY 72
56 S CAROLINA 72
57 ARIZONA 71
58 WYOMING 70
59 CALIFORNIA 70
60 N MEXICO ST 70
61 MARSHALL 69
62 SAN DIEGO ST 67
63 TCU 67
64 BYU 66
65 STANFORD 66
66 LOUISIANA 65
67 W KENTUCKY 65
68 TULSA 64
69 KANSAS ST 63
70 UTEP 62
71 KENT ST 61
72 USC 59
73 N CAROLINA 57
74 WEST VA 57
75 NAVY 57
76 TROY 57
77 VIRGINIA 56
78 PENN ST 56
79 CINCINNATI 55
80 NOTRE DAME 55
81 VIRGINIA TECH 54
82 INDIANA 54
83 N ILLINOIS 52
84 LSU 52
85 FIU 50
86 ILLINOIS 48
87 RUTGERS 48
88 MIAMI FL 47
89 PURDUE 47
90 TEXAS 47
91 ARIZONA ST 47
92 ALABAMA 46
93 NEVADA 46
94 WAKE FOREST 45
95 MICHIGAN ST 43
96 TEXAS A&M 43
97 OKLAHOMA 42
98 PITTSBURGH 42
99 BOWL GREEN 41
100 SYRACUSE 40
101 OHIO 40
102 MARYLAND 38
103 NEW MEXICO 38
104 GEORGIA TECH 37
105 BAYLOR 37
106 IOWA 36
107 ULM 35
108 KENTUCKY 31
109 NC STATE 30
110 COLORADO ST 30
111 TEXAS TECH 29
112 SO MISS 26
113 HAWAII 24
114 MISSISSIPPI 22
115 VANDERBILT 20
116 IDAHO 19
117 TENNESSEE 13
118 OKLAHOMA ST 12
119 AIR FORCE 1
120 FAU 0
 
#35
#35
Dude, no one responded about experience because they're debating size of our OL/DL vs. their OL/DL.
 
#39
#39
Duckweed said:
perhaps you need to read the exchanges again and decide for yourself. context is everything
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of course it is. You're sad enough to troll a competitor's board. With that in mind, it's hard to imagine that you can't come with better and that we don't simply ignore you.
 
#40
#40
DC Vol said:
Dude, no one responded about experience because they're debating size of our OL/DL vs. their OL/DL.
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Thought I would challenge the wisdom of the OP by pointing at that experience is FAR more determinant than size when comparing line play.
 
#41
#41
BigPapaVol said:
of course it is. You're sad enough to troll a competitor's board. With that in mind, it's hard to imagine that you can't come with better and that we don't simply ignore you.
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i don't believe i've made a single post that could be called trolling. are you really so insecure as to prohibit good natured bantering between vol and duck fans?

seriously?
 
#42
#42
Gridironguy said:
Thought I would challenge the wisdom of the OP by pointing at that experience is FAR more determinant than size when comparing line play.
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ability, quickness, speed, strength, technique, etc, etc, etc might come into play as well, but who knows.
 
#43
#43
Duckweed said:
i don't believe i've made a single post that could be called trolling. are you really so insecure as to prohibit good natured bantering between vol and duck fans?

seriously?
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I'm not prohibiting anything. I'm simply agreeing that context is everything. If we thought through the type of person it takes to come to a rival's board and imply people are stupid, we'd simply ignore you.
 
#46
#46
BigPapaVol said:
I'm not prohibiting anything. I'm simply agreeing that context is everything. If we thought through the type of person it takes to come to a rival's board and imply people are stupid, we'd simply ignore you.
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if i've done that it certainly wasn't intended, sorry if you took it that way, have a good day.
 
#47
#47
BigPapaVol said:
ability, quickness, speed, strength, technique, etc, etc, etc might come into play as well, but who knows.
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:lolabove: wow......if this is the case Oregon will be blown off of the line.

How many times have you made that statement before in your ungodly amount of posts you have? I hope that was your first and you are already drunk....:crazy:
 
#49
#49
PortlandDuck said:
:lolabove: wow......if this is the case Oregon will be blown off of the line.

How many times have you made that statement before in your ungodly amount of posts you have? I hope that was your first and you are already drunk....:crazy:
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Look, I know you're dumb as a hammer, but you don't have to openly flaunt it for everyone else. I didn't say a damn word about any of that giving us an advantage. It was clearly mocking a post that tried to imply we have an edge based upon weight.
 
#50
#50
PortlandDuck said:
:lolabove: wow......if this is the case Oregon will be blown off of the line.

How many times have you made that statement before in your ungodly amount of posts you have? I hope that was your first and you are already drunk....:crazy:
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You haven't been around long enough to know when people are being sarcastic. Some of us are very tongue-in-cheek around here.
 
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