Tennessee vs. Florida

#51
#51
I miss the excitement of every UF thread last year...Here's hoping we can get that fight in our eyes and play like we want to win.

It's been a rare occurrence for our team to appear to want to beat Florida.
 
#52
#52
Eberry said:
I think Florida is gonna be easier to play this year.

Obviously there is no Tebow, so you don't have to worry about the QB runs.
And with Brantley being a passing QB. It should be easier to sit back and play in Cover 2/3 and blitz when necessary. Also you can't count out that the gators lost about half their deffense, and a few good play makers on Offense.
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gators? I thought they were the Gaywhores?
 
#53
#53
AFL2008 said:
How do you NOT see an advantage for Florida?

Look at the offensive line.

UF's back ups on the OL could start at UT in 2010.

Brantley would be the for sure lock to start at UT in 2010. There wouldn't even be a controversy.

WR is a push.

RB is a push and that's being generous.

Jeff Demps is the current #3 active rusher in the SEC right now behind Locke and Ingram with about 1300 yards.

Then you also have Rainey with over 1000 career yards, and Moody and Gillislee have actually contributed.

UF has a pretty big advantage in this game on both sides of the ball. That doesn't mean they'll win, but it would be an upset if they lost for sure.
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I like how you left out TE... seems like that would be a UT favorite.

Their RBs wouldnt see playing time at UT, period. They have, at best, mediocre backs playing in a spread system that would never see the NFL. Ever.

I guarantee our WRs will be better than UF. Sorry but Thompson, the only WR that is mentionable, doesnt bother me enough to "push"


CardassianVol said:
All of that said, we don't need their respect before the game if we have earned it afterward. I think Dooley's Vols will be well coached and they will sneak up on a few teams. Go Vols!
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UT is NOT USCjr PERIOD. Playing as a road team in Neyland is waaaaay different than playing in South Carolina. Furthermore, he has yet to play on a big stage where he is the main guy that HAS to make plays. If you dont think that kid has nerves before the game at Neyland then you are delusional at best or retarded at worst. (not calling you retarded...just get checked :crazy: ) He will have nerves and i dont blame him one bit.

Personally, I think the SECE is a toss up. You never know until the games are played when there is so much change. UFs WR's not proven, UFs defense does not have any big name players like a Spikes or Haden. Could one arise? Yes. But is it certain? No. Just like UGA. Just like UT. Im just excited for football and to be 3-0 the night of Sept 18th. :rock:
 
#54
#54
utkell65 said:
:lolabove:

If Florida did finish 8-4, just think of the total meltdown there would be in Gainesville. Urbie would retire with health problems following the season, but this time he would probably stayed retired.
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Theyve already sported a 9-4 season in 2007. Dont think it would bother them. A loss to Michigan i believe in the capital one bowl due to Chad Henne's arm and Manninghams outstanding WR play. IIRC
 
#55
#55
Florida is not a better team than last year but they are still better than us. Yet that doesn't mean we can't pull an upset. GO VOLS!!
 
#56
#56
AFL2008 said:
How do you NOT see an advantage for Florida?

Look at the offensive line.

UF's back ups on the OL could start at UT in 2010.

Brantley would be the for sure lock to start at UT in 2010. There wouldn't even be a controversy.

WR is a push.

RB is a push and that's being generous.

Jeff Demps is the current #3 active rusher in the SEC right now behind Locke and Ingram with about 1300 yards.

Then you also have Rainey with over 1000 career yards, and Moody and Gillislee have actually contributed.

UF has a pretty big advantage in this game on both sides of the ball. That doesn't mean they'll win, but it would be an upset if they lost for sure.
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That Demps stat is misleading. He's got about 1250 yards in two years, but considering UF's running game has always been a three-headed monster (Demps, Moody, and Tebow), it's respectable. I do think that without the 3rd-and-Tebow situations, UF's offense will sputter a little this season.

And no one is questioning whether or not Brantley will start. The Gators may have some big-time RS QB's backing him up, but he's getting as much hype as Matt Barkley did last year at USC. Of course Meyer won't bench him.

As far as everything else goes, I agree. It sucks, but I agree.

I'm hoping Wilcox will keep our boys in the game, and maybe we can force some turnovers and shorten the field.

I'm expecting a relatively low-scoring game, like 20-17 or 24-20. Both defenses will have a lot to prove: UF without C. Strong and Spikes and Haden, UT without Eric Berry while breaking in Wilcox. A turnover could mean the game.
JMO
 
#57
#57
Brantley will be a better QB than Tebow.....not as good of a runner, but a better passer....they aren't stepping back much this year and we have stepped back dramatically from last year.....to think we have a better shot than the last few years you are sadly mistaken
 
#58
#58
the advantage every team has over tn is the utter chaos with coaches they've been through over the past few years; no stability for the players
 
#59
#59
DownTheField said:
almost always true... but you NEVER, NEVER bet against your team
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Unless your team is Tennessee and you are betting that we won't cover(not lose, just not cover the point spread), which in the last 10 years is very nearly a sure thing.
 
#60
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Yankee_Vol said:
Brantley will be a better QB than Tebow.....not as good of a runner, but a better passer....they aren't stepping back much this year and we have stepped back dramatically from last year.....to think we have a better shot than the last few years you are sadly mistaken
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Kid still has to get out there and throw the ball with live bullets flying around. Also saying he's a better passer than Tebow isn't really saying much. The thing that is going to hurt them the most with Brantley is that he's not going to be the kind of leader and motivator Tebow was, as much as I hate to say it that guy could flip a switch and get his guys motivated.
 
#62
#62
NickZ4UT said:
Kid still has to get out there and throw the ball with live bullets flying around. Also saying he's a better passer than Tebow isn't really saying much. The thing that is going to hurt them the most with Brantley is that he's not going to be the kind of leader and motivator Tebow was, as much as I hate to say it that guy could flip a switch and get his guys motivated.
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Brantley has played a little bit already so Im not worried about that if Im a Florida fan. Also, you don't know that Brantley won't be able to lead and motivate his teammates....there will be some drop off there but not enough to make a difference Im affraid
 
#63
#63
utvols88 said:
UT is NOT USCjr PERIOD. Playing as a road team in Neyland is waaaaay different than playing in South Carolina. Furthermore, he has yet to play on a big stage where he is the main guy that HAS to make plays. If you dont think that kid has nerves before the game at Neyland then you are delusional at best or retarded at worst. (not calling you retarded...just get checked :crazy: ) He will have nerves and i dont blame him one bit.

Personally, I think the SECE is a toss up. You never know until the games are played when there is so much change. UFs WR's not proven, UFs defense does not have any big name players like a Spikes or Haden. Could one arise? Yes. But is it certain? No. Just like UGA. Just like UT. Im just excited for football and to be 3-0 the night of Sept 18th. :rock:
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i hate to break it to you......but, how is tennessee the "big stage" right now?

and

do we really have to pretend going to neyland stadium and winning is a problem?
 
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#64
ptclaus98 said:
I don't understand why people seem to think that gaining an actual QB and losing pretty much nothing else is gonna hurt their offense. Their defense might take a bit of a hit, but it's still much more athletic, deep, and experienced than ours is, and they are much deeper in the trenches.
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An actual QB? Are you serious. You need to go look at tim Tebow's passing numbers if you dont think hes a "real" QB. John Brantley might have a better arm, but he will never be half the passer that tim tebow was. Not even mentioning all the other things tebow did. John Brantley will not come close to hittting on 66 percent of his passes averaging 3000 yds and averaging 28 td against just 5 ints per season. Good luck with that "real" QB
 
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ptclaus98 said:
I don't understand why people seem to think that gaining an actual QB and losing pretty much nothing else is gonna hurt their offense. Their defense might take a bit of a hit, but it's still much more athletic, deep, and experienced than ours is, and they are much deeper in the trenches.
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Tebow was worth 3 or 4 first downs a game due to his running ability.

Florida has to find a guy to get the tough yards between the tackles. Emmanuel Moody can't hold on to the football and Demps and Rainey aren't getting many yards on runs up the gut.

Brantley brings a live arm and takes away a running threat.

That being said, Meyer adjusted his O to fit around Alex Smith and Omar Jacobs. I don't think losing Tebow is the downfall of the Florida offense, it's just not an automatic first down and 3rd and three anymore.
 
#67
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justingroves said:
Tebow was worth 3 or 4 first downs a game due to his running ability.

Florida has to find a guy to get the tough yards between the tackles. Emmanuel Moody can't hold on to the football and Demps and Rainey aren't getting many yards on runs up the gut.

Brantley brings a live arm and takes away a running threat.

That being said, Meyer adjusted his O to fit around Alex Smith and Omar Jacobs. I don't think losing Tebow is the downfall of the Florida offense, it's just not an automatic first down and 3rd and three anymore.
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Yeah and they're going to miss that. I think they drop a couple this year.
 
#68
#68
BigOrangePassion1 said:
An actual QB? Are you serious. You need to go look at tim Tebow's passing numbers if you dont think hes a "real" QB. John Brantley might have a better arm, but he will never be half the passer that tim tebow was. Not even mentioning all the other things tebow did. John Brantley will not come close to hittting on 66 percent of his passes averaging 3000 yds and averaging 28 td against just 5 ints per season. Good luck with that "real" QB
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I was going to answer this post, then I realized who wrote it. Now with the free time, I shall eat breakfast.
 
#69
#69
an obnoxious florida fan at my office is willing to give me UT and 16 points right now for $100. Should I take that bet?
 
#71
#71
justingroves said:
Tebow was worth 3 or 4 first downs a game due to his running ability.

Florida has to find a guy to get the tough yards between the tackles. Emmanuel Moody can't hold on to the football and Demps and Rainey aren't getting many yards on runs up the gut.

Brantley brings a live arm and takes away a running threat.

That being said, Meyer adjusted his O to fit around Alex Smith and Omar Jacobs. I don't think losing Tebow is the downfall of the Florida offense, it's just not an automatic first down and 3rd and three anymore.
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They'll also be more efficient on first and second down, and they have playmakers to use effectively to dig them out of long down and distance. Florida still has a pretty damn good line. And, it's not like they've completely lost that threat anyway. Trey Burton can be that type of threat if they need it.
 
#72
#72
ptclaus98 said:
They'll also be more efficient on first and second down, and they have playmakers to use effectively to dig them out of long down and distance. Florida still has a pretty damn good line. And, it's not like they've completely lost that threat anyway. Trey Burton can be that type of threat if they need it.
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It's still a whole lot easier to defend when Brantley isn't a bulldozer like Tebow was. You can contain the outside easier when the threat of a 230 lb FB/QB isn't there.

Like I said, I'm sure Meyer will adjust and the offense will do fine. It's just one of the few weaknesses Florida has right now.
 
#73
#73
Not to be cocky or flame or anything, but Vol fans should prepare for Florida's offense to be the best of the Meyer era, unless there are injuries to Brantley or multiple starting O-linemen. If there's any weakness for Florida this year, it's a D-line with a lot of youth and a few guys with a history of injury issues. Even with that stuff, the LBs and DBs are top notch, so scoring on UF is not going to be easy for anyone, much less a team with no O-line and no idea what to expect from their QB.

Sorry, but the only team that should compete with Florida this year is Bama, and I think UF will be able to outscore Bama with relative ease. The matchup for Florida with Bama is better, believe it or not, with this year's team rather than with Tebow running a more "controlled" type offense. UF will score big this year, and Bama's not the kind of team built for a shootout against a team with comparable talent.
 
#74
#74
penleydr said:
Not to be cocky or flame or anything, but Vol fans should prepare for Florida's offense to be the best of the Meyer era, unless there are injuries to Brantley or multiple starting O-linemen. If there's any weakness for Florida this year, it's a D-line with a lot of youth and a few guys with a history of injury issues. Even with that stuff, the LBs and DBs are top notch, so scoring on UF is not going to be easy for anyone, much less a team with no O-line and no idea what to expect from their QB.

Sorry, but the only team that should compete with Florida this year is Bama, and I think UF will be able to outscore Bama with relative ease. The matchup for Florida with Bama is better, believe it or not, with this year's team rather than with Tebow running a more "controlled" type offense. UF will score big this year, and Bama's not the kind of team built for a shootout against a team with comparable talent.
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Your offense doesn't get better when you lose one of the best college players in the past 50 years off of it. Sorry.

Bama doesn't get into "shootouts" because they don't allow it.

You just said Florida's DL is one of their weaknesses. Guess what? Alabama runs 70% of the time. You better hope and pray Florida's DL isn't a weakness or Florida's O won't see the field but for maybe 25 minutes.
 
#75
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justingroves said:
Tebow was worth 3 or 4 first downs a game due to his running ability.

Florida has to find a guy to get the tough yards between the tackles. Emmanuel Moody can't hold on to the football and Demps and Rainey aren't getting many yards on runs up the gut.

Brantley brings a live arm and takes away a running threat.

That being said, Meyer adjusted his O to fit around Alex Smith and Omar Jacobs. I don't think losing Tebow is the downfall of the Florida offense, it's just not an automatic first down and 3rd and three anymore.
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No more automatic TDs inside the 5 yard line either.
 
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