*****Tennessee vs Appalachian State: Offense/Defense play by play videos

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[youtube]http://youtu.be/CJokIqerLPM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtu.be/SpqvKyV-GFE[/youtube]


FULL GAME
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epn5sxHbqCw[/youtube]
 
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After watching this I feel a little better about the offense. I noticed:
- The WRs, especially P Will, are able to get open more than last year. They're also more capable of making a play on the ball
- The OL didn't get beat as much as I thought, except for Thomas - he got beat like 5 times with the same move. I thought they lacked focus, didn't know their assignments, and just didn't finish their blocks off. Too many times I saw them get push and then let up, not letting Hurd get 2 yds past the line. At first, I thought they were just getting beat physically, but after just watching the line I saw them running around too much not putting a hat on someone. It just seemed like they weren't cohesive or didn't know their assignment. Hopefully that can be fixed, but I don't feel as bad now, I think they just overlooked a smaller DL.
- Hurd needs to focus more as well. He dropped an easy pass and also didn't even try to block his man once leading to a sack. If he atleast tries, Dobbs has plenty of time and can make a throw.
- Kamara needs the ball more, but I think that was by design this game. I also think it was part of the plan to limit Dobbs' running.
- P Will and Wolf need as many targets as they can get. They always seemed open and made tough catches.
- Drew Richmond played great. He'll be a stud here.

Overall, I think the offense will turn it around against VT. I think they might've overlooked this team a bit. They seemed unprepared and lacked focus.
 
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kid50 said:
After watching this I feel a little better about the offense. I noticed:
- The WRs, especially P Will, are able to get open more than last year. They're also more capable of making a play on the ball
- The OL didn't get beat as much as I thought, except for Thomas - he got beat like 5 times with the same move. I thought they lacked focus, didn't know their assignments, and just didn't finish their blocks off. Too many times I saw them get push and then let up, not letting Hurd get 2 yds past the line. At first, I thought they were just getting beat physically, but after just watching the line I saw them running around too much not putting a hat on someone. It just seemed like they weren't cohesive or didn't know their assignment. Hopefully that can be fixed, but I don't feel as bad now, I think they just overlooked a smaller DL.
- Hurd needs to focus more as well. He dropped an easy pass and also didn't even try to block his man once leading to a sack. If he atleast tries, Dobbs has plenty of time and can make a throw.
- Kamara needs the ball more, but I think that was by design this game. I also think it was part of the plan to limit Dobbs' running.
- P Will and Wolf need as many targets as they can get. They always seemed open and made tough catches.
- Drew Richmond played great. He'll be a stud here.

Overall, I think the offense will turn it around against VT. I think they might've overlooked this team a bit. They seemed unprepared and lacked focus.
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I like your optimism!

The design of the passing game still concerns me. Of the 32 passes in Freak's markup (3 were brought back by penalties, I guess), 25 were to receivers within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage (18 of those 25 were even to receiver targets within 5 yards of the line). Of the targets 15 yards or more beyond the line of scrimmage, we were 2-7-82-TD-INT. I'm afraid that the better teams we play are going to sit on all these short routes and that we won't be able to punish them by connecting over the top. Hope I'm wrong!
 
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Funny thing is, the offense looks better than I remembered.
 
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GAVol said:
Funny thing is, the offense looks better than I remembered.
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It does.

IMO The interior of both lines showed their posterior in the first half.
It wasn't until they shored up that we looked better.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
I like your optimism!

The design of the passing game still concerns me. Of the 32 passes in Freak's markup (3 were brought back by penalties, I guess), 25 were to receivers within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage (18 of those 25 were even to receiver targets within 5 yards of the line). Of the targets 15 yards or more beyond the line of scrimmage, we were 2-7-82-TD-INT. I'm afraid that the better teams we play are going to sit on all these short routes and that we won't be able to punish them by connecting over the top. Hope I'm wrong!
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I completely agree with you! We have to get the downfield passing game going. I think the key to that will be the OL giving Dobbs as little as an extra second to get the ball off. Hopefully they'll prepare a little more this week to be able to know their assignments next week and complete their blocks.
 
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eternal said:
16min for all three of the plays we used
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You really need to watch the film - lots more than 3 plays used. First drive there were 7 run plays and 7 passes.
Runs varied from the middle, off tackles on both sides, sweep right and QB keep up the middle. Passes varied between WR and TE - some to the right, some to the left and some down the middle.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
I like your optimism!

The design of the passing game still concerns me. Of the 32 passes in Freak's markup (3 were brought back by penalties, I guess), 25 were to receivers within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage (18 of those 25 were even to receiver targets within 5 yards of the line). Of the targets 15 yards or more beyond the line of scrimmage, we were 2-7-82-TD-INT. I'm afraid that the better teams we play are going to sit on all these short routes and that we won't be able to punish them by connecting over the top. Hope I'm wrong!
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You do realize that even teams that pass a lot are very similar in their approach. Most of the teams that are generally passing teams use the shorter passes like a run play. If Tennessee was successful at moving down the field play after play you wouldn't care what type of pass it was.
 
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Few thoughts on the D:

- Interior DL played terrible. Got absolutely dominated.
- Barnett and Vereen looked really good.
- We missed way too many tackles at the second level
- Mich Abernathy played great. I was skeptical about him starting at safety but not anymore. He'll be solid there.
- The secondary seemed improved. I thought their open-field tackling was better too.
- McDowell looked good as a backup, made a few a mistakes and a few missed tackles, but he looked good and I bet he coaches were happy to see that.
- Going off that, JRM or Kirkland can't go down, after JRM, Kirkland, and McDowell, we don't have much solid depth at LB. I respect Bynum for sticking around, but he just doesn't have the speed to be out there. If McDowell would've been in his position with JRM in the game, so many of those runs are tackled around the LOS. Maybe Quarte Sapp can step up and take his place on the depth chart.

Overall, I thought the D was kinda underwhelming from what he had expected and heard about it so far under Shoop. The thing that concerned me the most was that it looked very undisciplined, especially on the reverse and end-arounds. Guys did not stay in their areas, they followed the ball too much, and got beat when the play reversed. Hopefully this can be fixed, but I just wasn't impressed, especially at the LOS.
 
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volfan102455 said:
You do realize that even teams that pass a lot are very similar in their approach. Most of the teams that are generally passing teams use the shorter passes like a run play. If Tennessee was successful at moving down the field play after play you wouldn't care what type of pass it was.
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Yes most passing teams do use shorter passes like a run play, but the difference between those teams and us is that defenses fear getting beat over-the-top by the QB. Defenses don't fear or respect Dobbs enough to sit back, teams play close to the LOS and dare him to beat them and he can't. Therefore, D's take away the run and the short passes because they're so close to the LOS. It won't be until Dobbs shows he can consistently complete the 15+ yard passes that defenses will drop back and allow the shorter passes and open up the run game.
 
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Freak, we may be at odds about the trajectory of the program but I can't thank you enough for these.
 
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Ok after watching that I see why our run game struggled. This Oline does not get to the second level and block at all. Almost every running play there is 1 or 2 guys that don't have anyone on the los and instead of going and blocking a lb or s, they will just kind of stand there or double team a guy that is already being blocked. Oh and the only time they did was be when they were getting in hurds way, like they would be standing there and see him next to them and suddenly try to run in front or next to him either slowing him down or removing his ability to cut or juke.

dline stunts will kill this O this year because our oline just stands there confused when the guy doesn't come straight at them.
 
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volfan102455 said:
You really need to watch the film - lots more than 3 plays used. First drive there were 7 run plays and 7 passes.
Runs varied from the middle, off tackles on both sides, sweep right and QB keep up the middle. Passes varied between WR and TE - some to the right, some to the left and some down the middle.
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I think some of those outside runs (and some of the inside runs, too) were actually zone runs. We didn't seem to have too much success from the outside zones. The inside zones got us some chunks of yards. We didn't run the QB read very much until the overtime, where we ran it three times in a row (if it works, why change?).
 
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Really impressed with Appy's OL...they aren't as great at pass blocking...but watch them on runs...like they were shot out of a cannon...they lunge and open a quick hole and let the RB make the second line miss.
 
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ELI WOLF over the middle is open EVERY TIME.

Worst offensive game since 2013. OL is FCS level. Shame.
 
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After watching the offense as a whole wasn't as bad as i thought,but that line was worse than I thought after paying close attention to them. Hopefully they can get those kinks worked out by this sat.
 
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In the first drive Dobbs threw to Malone high. I don't think I saw a WR get hit in stride to make a catch and run. The TD throw to Malone was open the whole game to any number of WR, yet there was no attempt to throw to them. The middle of the field was open the whole game, yet the TE was only hit a few times. A WR slant would have been good too. I think that they should have used the short to middle passes (TE seam routes) on first down to open up the run and get Dobbs in rhythm. It would have worked better than trying to run every single first down play. The only time that they pretty much didn't run on first down was the TD bomb to Malone and the first down throw to Wolfe in OT. To take the next level and go to the SEC Championship game, Dobbs needs to get better at hitting his WR consistently in the numbers when they are open and in stride so they can put the D under pressure.
 
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Thanks Freak,

Offensive plays.... good to see them like this...

What I saw was the D got inside of the Vols O-line too many times, to a point where the O-line was trying to block at the next level... problem was, Hurd then had to deal with 4 D players at the line of scrimmage. Easy to see, the O-line did not block the first wave of the D line.

Next, many times, it seemed that Hurd ran away from the "hole" being made (if there was one) and he found 3-4 tacklers waiting for him on the edge. Sloppy execution most of the game. And a good coach will fix that crap.

Finally... old Dobbie lost focus and threw too many garbage balls, or held onto the ball tool long and took the sack... he needs to understand he can throw it away and avoid the sack or pick.

Bottom line...The entire scheme used by DeBord was in no way shape or form in sync... that is fixable.
 
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The defense got better during the second half. They still need to work on tackling and taking good angles. The D gives me more hope going forward than the O,but I think both sides of the ball will make big strides coming into Bristol.
 
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Thanks, Freak....this breakdown is a true service....

I love Jalen Hurd....he is a beast, and probably the most under-rated RBs in the NCAA....

If he were our TB back in the days of the TVA OL--he would've ran for 2,000 yards....

I did notice something in the game, and these videos show it very clearly....

Hurd is so physical and is focused on running North and South that he is MISSING some opportunities to get to the open field.....

1. On the 3rd play of the video--he misses a cut to his left for some big yardage....

2. At 3:41--he makes a great, physical run--but could've gotten some big yardage if he breaks right after he runs into the LOS...a huge lane existed outside to the right....

3. At 3:54...same thing....he misses another huge hole outside....

These are not criticisms of him at all....He runs angry and like a bull--and that is GREAT!!!!!!! But--his VISION of the open lanes could improve....

Same thing for Kamara sometimes....

At 4:15 in the video--if Kamara raises his head and looks outside--we have the Appy State defenders walled off... He could've turned on the jets and broken that play outside....picking up at least 10+ yds.

I know that he saw some daylight inside...but the play was blocked for him to run to the daylight outside and down the sideline...

GO VOLS!
 
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