Tennessee Vols Football Ranking After Week 2 as of 9-9-18 and Next Game vs. UTEP

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Major Rankings Shenanigans After Win

I hope everyone enjoyed the last of your weekend. I know I certainly enjoyed watching our men in big orange
remind little brother that even after a down year, some things will never change. One example is Rocky Top after a Tennessee score and
the other is that natural law that states Tennessee will always be able to beat them up. For any ETSU grads, dads, or any other
variation of "Bucky the Pirate" doodads suddenly feeling hot under the collar, this isn't chest thumping, but rather family rated fun for a fan base who could use it in almost any form at this point after almost a year of nothing but misery, so lighten up, will ya?
Take it from fans who had to endure the entire 2017 season without a single conference win. It seemed like forever since we had won a game. It's like my father said to explain how long a minute really is. "Just a minute" depends entirely on which side of the bathroom door you happen to be on, at that moment. The good news for ETSU fans regarding the sting of Saturday's defeat is it's temporary. This too, shall pass - for you, too.

"Lie to Me, Baby"

Even though the Randy Sanders-coached ETSU football squad is FCS level, it was fun to see the Vols flex the strength of their football weapons for the home crowd this weekend. At least it was more pleasant than watching the quarterback poster boy for Ligandrol hulk out on us after his weather delay "snack" or his All-American wide receiver go out of bounds a few yards then illegally return to make a catch while refs did their best 3 blind mice impression instead of their jobs. Yes, it was at UT's expense. The quarterback (whose past, present, and future play was made forever questionable when found to be enhanced by banned substance use) and refs playing dumb on at least one play, were certainly not the only reasons WVU got the W, but it sure didn't hurt their cause any more than fielding a team of fifth-year seniors (or at least many more upperclassmen than Tennessee) against the youth of Tennessee in a new system under a first-year coach. Even without excuses, the Mountaineers plain whipped our posteriors. It was frustrating even if expected by maybe everyone except Vols homers like me. Even though we knew ETSU was a mismatch, we could watch to find solace in winning. We could skip the FCS part really fast to remember what it felt like to see the team win again. If it wasn't a "real" win until SEC play when the truth's exposed, the effects of battered Vol syndrome were so pronounced it felt good to see the Vols play confidently in rhythm and win instead of struggle to survive. Lie to me, baby.

Enough Reminiscing

That's enough reminiscing, but it helps explain why I enjoyed watching the game this past Saturday so much more than the previous one and serves as an adequate background for the meat and potatoes on your plate starting this next sentence. After noticing Tennessee was ranked between 64th on one rankings list to 74th in the nation on the CBS 129 rankings list following the WVU loss, I was curious about how much rankings ground was gained from the refreshing and encouraging show of honest-to-God complimentary football that was finally more than just lip service or cliche-speak (albeit against ETSU, one of the weaklings of the world of college football teams,) by Tennessee, Saturday. I did some light digging. The results revealed a less than logical outcome.

Less Than Logical

Why was it less than a logical outcome for any reason other than "more than moronic" seemed over the top?
Well, for starters, Vegas predicted Tennessee winning by 37 points as the spread. We know Tennessee won by 56 points,
so that's a performance that exceeded the best guesses of the "expert analysts" who get paid to set the line for professional
sports betting. So if the football world expected a Tennessee win over ETSU by just 6 touchdowns and a point after touchdown
(6 points per touchdown x's 6 touchdowns plus 1 Point After Touchdown = 37 points) yet in fact, Tennessee performed even better than the pundits' predictions to the tune of 9 touchdowns and a safety (9 touchdowns x's 6 points per touchdown plus 2 points for a safety = 9 x's 6 + 2 = 56 points) then why did Tennessee's ranking drop in the exact opposite direction of their performance to the point where it didn't even make sense? I mean, even if Tennessee only won by the 37 points they were expected to win by, meaning only covering the spread instead of the actual final margin of victory that tallied 19 points higher than expected, then regardless of a few anomalies around their position
in the rankings, most could logically expect Tennessee would maintain their ranking or only move in either direction by a spot or two barring some major shakeups. That wasn't what happened though. They didn't just maintain. They beat the spread, so it would be safe to expect at least a maintained ranking over the previous week - if not a decent gain in the rankings considering they won by more than most experts calculated that they should. Here's where it really begins to resemble the shape of nonsense.

Updated as of September 9th, 2018

Tennessee is ranked #92 in the "CBS 129" rankings list. This is 18 spots worse than last week
in the same rankings list source even after the 59 to 3 shellacking of ETSU Saturday and even while
allowing backups to get plenty of valuable playing time.

Source: College Football Rankings

I know whether ranked 92 or 32, it still isn't the top 25, so most likely won't care or even notice and I won't argue with them over that. I just wonder how much Tennessee would have had to win by in order to improve ranking on that list? 77 to 0 like Miami did or would that have only maintained the 74th position? Instead, as it turns out, Tennessee plummets 18 places down to a ranking of 92nd in the country - on the basis of hammering the ETSU football team by a margin of victory made up of more points than the number of years their head coach has been alive. So unless the CBS list is just a worthless rag spun to appease fans of the perennial bottom of the barrel ranked programs, there seems to be a big takeaway from the movement in the rankings after the big win in week 2. That takeaway could be summed up thusly as a lesson (or review lesson) for those creating the schedules: Scheduling a game against an FCS opponent is the equivalent of committing rankings suicide that week because you get whacked in the rankings even for beating your opponent by more than 9 touchdowns. Is that a hot take or pretty close to the truth in your view of it? If you go to the site linked above, you can see it was updated today so it's not like they failed to account for the previous day's game result when factoring it in to the new ranking that makes it appear Tennessee became worse in week 2 than in week 1 or to put it in another way, the exact opposite of all the evidence of improvement the whole team made in spades.

Up Next is... UTEP

So now that the CBS ranking algorithm has blown everyone's mind with its logic-defying powers of team strength calculation, let's take a sneak peek at the team we have to thank for next week's free fall in the team rankings whether it's a Tennessee win by 56 again or a UTEP loss by 37. Okay, okay you got me. I just wanted to keep you on your toes. Thankfully, UTEP is NOT an FCS opponent, so even though they are considered the worst FBS football team in the nation by almost everyone, they are not an FCS team, so maybe a win of the game won't look like a loss in the rankings next week once the season's second glorified scrimmage (for us) is in the bag. Try not to get a palpitation when you read what their new coach's first name is, because just like the weather delays have shown us this season, just because the first one sucks (for us) doesn't mean the second one will even though they're spelled the same way, sound the same as each other, and are the same things.
Here is why. Remember when I said UTEP is considered the worst FBS football team in the nation by almost everyone? Out of 130 teams, Athlon Sports ranked them as... *suspenseful drum roll please*...





130th (*rim shot*).







No Joke

Usually people just call a team the worst in the nation with a sense of hyperbole but don't really mean it or if they do mean it, can't back it up with a reference to a credible source. Well prepare to be amazed my Vol Nation fam and friends. This isn't the usual. Here is a link to the actual team rankings list by Athlon Sports referenced earlier which also contains a pretty decent insight into what weak areas we can prepare to target leading up to next Saturday's showdown against the mighty "Miners" or as they refer to it, "Payday, Pete" (for them).





130. UTEP

utep-miners.png
...
Dana Dimel has a lot of work to do in his first year on campus...a unit that averaged only 11.8 points a game last fall. Senior quarterback Ryan Metz is expected to be pushed by junior college recruit Kai Locksley for the starting job. The Miners return only two starters on offense and must replace standout guard Will Hernandez...the quarterback battle and... a ground game that averaged less than 100 yards a game in 2017. However, there’s talent in the backfield with the return of Joshua Fields, Quardraiz Wadley and Trevyon Hughes. The defense is also in need of repair. UTEP gave up 36.8 points a game and 6.24 yards a play in 2017. Improving the rush defense is a priority after giving up 234.3 yards a contest last fall.

source: https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-all-130-college-football-teams

There you have it, my beloved orange clad brothers and sisters and just as promised.
Tennessee Vols Football Rankings After Week 2 as of 9-9-18 and Next Game vs. UTEP.

Go Vols! GBO!

OVN

And now for a public service announcement campaign and a message from the Tennessee Ad Council as an initiative to reduce home field littering.

#Litter is Not Lit

#Real Fans Don't Throw Real Fans. If Vol Twitter wants to have some fun with #Litter is Not Lit everyone could replace recent negative vibes in the media w/ some good ones & could even help the environment at more places than Neyland. It's up to you!
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*****Updated 09/10/2018: (Devo182 lost).

TL;DR = Major Rankings Shenanigans After Win
 
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Let me get this straight, Florida moved up two spots, after Kentucky beat them? Yeah right.

I just looked for where Tennessee was. It seemed "fair" considering last season's record. Then I saw the next week's ranking get worse by 18 spots after a dominating win. Yeah, although I haven't really checked for the movement of other teams yet, something definitely seemed fishy about that "Top 130" list. I knew that I wasn't going crazy and I'm glad you spotted that questionable movement of Kentucky and Florida on there too. I wondered what key metrics or factors their algorithm used or if they just weighted certain ones more than others to arrive at what looks like completely illogical results to me. Some networks will give certain factors more weight as their focus to differentiate their rankings from others, but unless I just completely misread the thing or failed to notice something major, I can't help but think something's a little "off" with their ranking system.
 
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I just looked for where Tennessee was. It seemed "fair" considering last season's record. Then I saw the next week's ranking get worse by 18 spots after a dominating win. Yeah, although I haven't really checked for the movement of other teams yet, something definitely seemed fishy about that "Top 130" list. I knew that I wasn't going crazy and I'm glad you spotted that questionable movement of Kentucky and Florida on there too. I wondered what key metrics or factors their algorithm used or if they just weighted certain ones more than others to arrive at what looks like completely illogical results to me. Some networks will give certain factors more weight as their focus to differentiate their rankings from others, but unless I just completely misread the thing or failed to notice something major, I can't help but think something's a little "off" with their ranking system.
I think 🤔 they have lost their minds, but I have no idea how they use these numbers on theirs? They moved Georgia down as well.
 
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Just win.
Exactly. That's what I always say. It was good enough for Al Davis and there was a time
not long ago when it really did used to be enough. "Winning cures all ills." Right?
Unfortunately, Tennessee just won Saturday by 56 points and saw their ranking plummet
18 points the next day in one updated rankings list, so just win wasn't enough.
UCF found out it wasn't enough recently too.
In my opinion, winning is still the main thing.
I'm from the old school of Lombardi with, "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing"
so you're preaching to the choir here.
It's easy to post a two-word reply to a much longer post as if it was too long or
try to make a dig at its author with yours for the contrast. I get it, but that isn't the case in this thread.

The topic of discussion in this thread covers current events that affect the football program and points out an interesting inconsistency in at least one ranking system, how it affects Tennessee's ranking currently, how it has already affected Tennessee's ranking recently, potential implications for future scheduling strategy, as well as the link to an interesting, but brief article about Tennessee's opponent next game. Knowing who your opponent is before you play them can help a team just win. If it wasn't part of the "just win" process, then there wouldn't be scouting reports. Parallel to teams preparing how to play the opponent, such discussions among fans can help fans who don't know about an upcoming opponent learn more about them and how their own team matches up so that they can enjoy watching the game more because they have gained more of an understanding of it and thus know how to appreciate it. This creates opportunities to generate more fan interest in not just that specific game but others, and even the team's whole season. This increased fan engagement generated by these discussions can encourage them to show more team and program support - either financially or even in the way a crowd can be an advantage on the field with the effect of "The 12th Man" and many more healthy benefits that can contribute to a team's opportunity to just win.

As you can see, I'm all about just win, and as most winners realize, I understand that to win you have to know the rules of the game and how to win when the powers that govern those rules threaten to change them on you. Keeping ahead of changes that can impact the success of your team, new developments that match that same description, as well as any new trends that promise or threaten the prospect of your team's wins or ultimate position in the grand scheme of things (or in this instance, seeing what specific ranking systems are doing differently that negatively affects the position of your team) creates the opportunity for you to inspect their significance if any and adapt accordingly to ensure your team stays on the winning side of the changes. This strategic approach to management is something you either intelligently appreciate now or reluctantly learn (from regret) to respect later.

When someone with the power to move the goal line somehow makes it ten yards farther than where the goal line used to be, someone can keep blinders on and earbuds in, chanting "just win" as their mantra, both on the field and off it, as they continue to spike the ball at what has now become the ten yard line (while oblivious to the changes made) and be mightily disappointed come the end of the fourth quarter when they wonder in abject disappointment why all those touchdowns they thought they scored resulted in a zero under their team's name on the scoreboard this time and were recorded as fumbles lost on the ten yard line instead. Does that analogy seem too far-fetched or abstract? It's point is not abstract at all when you consider this recent supporting example that's all too real for the organizations, schools, programs, teams, coaches, players, parents, and yes, fans, among the many other people involved and affected by its implications either directly or indirectly.

When it looked like it was going to be Ohio State in the playoff one season not too long ago, there was a program, that is to say another top team who did the strategic things it took to even get in the playoff that season when Ohio State apparently hoped "just win" was a strong enough philosophy to bank on it as their strategy. Unfortunately for them, as you probably remember, it wasn't enough that season at the highest level when the stakes were the absolute highest, despite winning their conference championship. In that specific scenario as a recent example, the team that they would have said, "Just win" to, had it been our forum exchange here, went about the intelligent strategic approach of adapting to specific circumstances they recognized it would take for them to even have the opportunity to just win in the first place, and as a result, they won the National Championship that season instead.

"Just win"?

Indeed.
 
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Man, VN is ignorant sometimes.

This is not correct smh. Just look at the rankings and previous ranking of each team
It is clearly WEEK 1 rankings.

Ffs you all. Between this and the "online site" that bet ETSU as beating us, I am starting to question the intelligece around here. Don't be so gullible and use your heads.
 
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Man, VN is ignorant sometimes.

This is not correct smh. Just look at the rankings and previous ranking of each team
It is clearly WEEK 1 rankings.

Ffs you all. Between this and the "online site" that bet ETSU as beating us, I am starting to question the intelligece around here. Don't be so gullible and use your heads.

@Devo182

Wrong! Your claim that "It is clearly WEEK 1 rankings" is incorrect. Of course, it's "not correct." That's what I pointed out in the post and demonstrated that it was less than logical. Exactly! So if "it is clearly week 1 rankings," yet they have the date, the games played and the difference in the current rankings move they assigned to each team that is different and updated after week 2, the only logical conclusion that fit your theory is that they updated every data field except for the weekly rating, in which case they are still incorrect because they have the rankings dated as current and included the results of week 2 games played.

In order not to be so gullible as you implied as an accusation, although it was only a false premise, one would have to be gullible in the first place, which VN was clearly not because I pointed out that it wasn't correct. What, you read it and then suddenly thought it was your own thought now and then chastise VN for not realizing it was incorrect when someone on Vol Nation was the one who brought the fact that it was incorrect and illogical to your attention in the first place? Nope, it doesn't work that way. It's good you're starting to question the intelligence around here, but if you're directing that outward, you made the biggest of your critical errors right there.

You're quick to point the accusatory finger (when all that you should have done was say thank you if you wanted to do the appropriate response for the situation), let's see if you can be just as quick to clearly state your supporting evidence of the assertion you made.

You're claiming that even though CBS today lists this week's ranking for Tennessee as 92nd and shows a red down arrow with the value of 18 showing that they dropped 18 places worse than last week and while if you do the math it adds up to what they showed as last week's ranking was 74th which they did and it does, and that even though this week's updated ranking which lists 9/9/18 as the day it was updated, somehow has mistakenly listed this week's ranking as 92nd but that they are "clearly" only showing last week's ranking despite all evidence to the contrary that they ranked Tennessee 74th last week? Hogwash.

So while you're going around on a high horse name-calling people gullible and questioning their intelligence, commanding them to "start using their heads" why don't you pull yours out long enough to realize how your claim is wrong along with every negative accusation you've levied and then apologize to those you've insulted with your insolent attitude. I'm going to be patient with you and give you the opportunity to reconsider your approach to how you should or should not post in this thread. While you're deciding how you'll make use of that opportunity, I'd be a fool if I didn't take advantage of my golden opportunity to ask someone of such intelligence a question while you're here posting in this thread. Excuse me, I had to pinch myself. I hope you'll forgive me if I seem a bit star-struck in the presence of such skill using your head. Okay, I think I've pulled myself together enough to ask you now. If you don't mind sharing, before you figured out that what was listed as this week's week 2 ranking was really, and not only really, but clearly week 1's ranking, what kind of thought did you have that led you to such a conclusion. I'm really interested in the answer to this question. You have no idea. I've heard some gifted people are born with something they only call "intuition" and they seem to be able to just draw the answer out of the universe as if they've always known it without ever knowing the first thing about whatever the subject is. Someone so convinced that CBS made such a tremendous blunder on the main stage and left it uncorrected for so long after publishing their error had to get that conviction from somewhere. What thought or idea did you have before you figured it out. Did an image just appear in your head? How did you know? I'm very interested in the thought process of someone so intelligent, so I do hope you'll oblige with at least a single thought you can point to on your path to uncovering the answer.

I don't mind sharing with you the simple little thought process I used to come up with my theory. Check it out and let me know what you think. Since you think the current rankings displayed as week 2's rankings are so "clearly week 1's ranking," then how do you explain that last week ( the rankings listed after week 1 games) they listed Tennessee's week 1 ranking as 74th and this week they list it as 92nd as well as post the negative change in ranking with a red down arrow and number 18 to represent a decrease in ranking value of 18 which matches the difference between their current week 2 ranking of 92nd as listed and the previous week 1 ranking of 74 which is a negative difference of exactly 18 places?

92-74 = 18.

So I have supplied both logic and mathematical evidence to support my claim.

What evidence do you supply to support your claim that the current week 2 ranking of 92nd that they list as week 2's ranking is to the contrary, "clearly week 1"?

If I got it wrong, I'm happy to admit it and will be grateful for one who can show me it's wrong with evidence to support their claim.

If, however, I am right, then I think you should apologize for your "Bull in the China Shop" berating of the good people of Vol Nation and at least show a shred of evidence of the gratitude due someone who helped you understand where you got it wrong and how to get it right, even if after the greatest of all your effort you can't seem to produce anything that even remotely resembles evidence to support your own claim at all.

To be clear, up to this point so far, the only support you've provided for any claim that you've made is when you claimed,"VN is ignorant sometimes." It's probably not what you want to read, but the support of that claim is the content of your own post and only if you refer to yourself as the particular member of "VN" when it is "ignorant sometimes" and you refer to now as an instance of that "sometimes."
 
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no respect...we're just an afterthought right now...beat UTEP, then the Gators...at least some respect will follow...and,

GO BIG ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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@Devo182

Wrong! Your claim that "It is clearly WEEK 1 rankings" is incorrect. Of course, it's "not correct." That's what I pointed out in the post and demonstrated that it was less than logical. Exactly! So if "it is clearly week 1 rankings," yet they have the date, the games played and the difference in the current rankings move they assigned to each team that is different and updated after week 2, the only logical conclusion that fit your theory is that they updated every data field except for the weekly rating, in which case they are still incorrect because they have the rankings dated as current and included the results of week 2 games played.

In order to not be so gullible as you implied as an accusation, although it was only a false premise, one would have to be gullible in the first place, which VN was clearly not because I pointed out that it wasn't correct. What, you read it and then suddenly thought it was your own thought now and then chastise VN for not realizing it was incorrect when someone on Vol Nation was the one who brought the fact that it was incorrect and illogical to your attention in the first place? Nope, it doesn't work that way. It's good you're starting to question the intelligence around here, but if you're directing that outward, you made the biggest of your critical errors right there.

You're quick to point the accusatory finger (when all that you should have done was say thank you if you wanted to do the appropriate response for the situation), let's see if you can be just as quick to clearly state your supporting evidence of the assertion you made.

You're claiming that even though CBS today lists this week's ranking for Tennessee as 92nd and shows a red down arrow with the value of 18 showing that they dropped 18 places worse than last week and while if you do the math it adds up to what they showed as last week's ranking was 74th which they did and it does, and that even though this week's updated ranking which lists 9/9/18 as the day it was updated, somehow has mistakenly listed this week's ranking as 92nd but that they are "clearly" only showing last week's ranking despite all evidence to the contrary that they ranked Tennessee 74th last week? Hogwash.

So while you're going around on a high horse name-calling people gullible and questioning their intelligence, commanding them to "start using their heads" why don't you pull yours out long enough to realize how your claim is wrong along with every negative accusation you've levied and then apologize to those you've insulted with your insolent attitude. I'm going to be patient with you and give you the opportunity to reconsider your approach to how you should or should not post in this thread. While you're deciding how you'll make use of that opportunity, I'd be a fool if I didn't take advantage of my golden opportunity to ask someone of such intelligence a question while you're here posting in this thread. Excuse me, I had to pinch myself. I hope you'll forgive me if I seem a bit star-struck in the presence of such skill using your head. Okay, I think I've pulled myself together enough to ask you now. If you don't mind sharing, before you figured out that what was listed as this week's week 2 ranking was really, and not only really, but clearly week 1's ranking, what kind of thought did you have that led you to such a conclusion. I'm really interested in the answer to this question. You have no idea. I've heard some gifted people are born with something they only call "intuition" and they seem to be able to just draw the answer out of the universe as if they've always known it without ever knowing the first thing about whatever the subject is. Someone so convinced that CBS made such a tremendous blunder on the main stage and left it uncorrected for so long after publishing their error had to get that conviction from somewhere. What thought or idea did you have before you figured it out. Did an image just appear in your head? How did you know? I'm very interested in the thought process of someone so intelligent, so I do hope you'll oblige with at least a single thought you can point to on your path to uncovering the answer.

I don't mind sharing with you the simple little thought process I used to come up with my theory. Check it out and let me know what you think. Since you think the current rankings displayed as week 2's rankings are so "clearly week 1's ranking," then how do you explain that last week ( the rankings listed after week 1 games) they listed Tennessee's week 1 ranking as 74th and this week they list it as 92nd as well as post the negative change in ranking with a red down arrow and number 18 to represent a decrease in ranking value of 18 which matches the difference between their current week 2 ranking of 92nd as listed and the previous week 1 ranking of 74 which is a negative difference of exactly 18 places?

92-74 = 18.

So I have supplied both logic and mathematical evidence to support my claim.

What evidence do you supply to support your claim that the current week 2 ranking of 92nd that they list as week 2's ranking is to the contrary, "clearly week 1"?

If I got it wrong, I'm happy to admit it and will be grateful for one who can show me it's wrong with evidence to support their claim.

If, however, I am right, then I think you should apologize for your "Bull in the China Shop" berating of the good people of Vol Nation and at least show a shred of evidence of the gratitude due someone who helped you understand where you got it wrong and how to get it right, even if after the greatest of all your effort you can't seem to produce anything that even remotely resembles evidence to support your own claim at all.

To be clear, up to this point so far, the only support you've provided for any claim that you've made is when you claimed,"VN is ignorant sometimes." It's probably not what you want to read, but the support of that claim is the content of your own post and only if you refer to yourself as the particular member of "VN" when it is "ignorant sometimes" and you refer to now as an instance of that "sometimes."

Beat me too it.
 
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The antidote to all this is to ignore rankings until/unless a day comes when TN is back in the Top 25. I would suggest Top 10, but 25 seems to be a magic number. 92 v. 74 (even including "trajectory"), who cares? Past about 5 subjectivity becomes overwhelming.
 
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The antidote to all this is to ignore rankings until/unless a day comes when TN is back in the Top 25. I would suggest Top 10, but 25 seems to be a magic number. 92 v. 74 (even including "trajectory"), who cares? Past about 5 subjectivity becomes overwhelming.
He also covered this in his thread. Which is lengthy, but better than most on the board because it’s entertaining and comes with fact. So while yes, 77 or 92 who cares cause it ain’t number 1 is the goal, a nicely written thread with thought is a breath of fresh air around here.
 
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He also covered this in his thread. Which is lengthy, but better than most on the board because it’s entertaining and comes with fact. So while yes, 77 or 92 who cares cause it ain’t number 1 is the goal, a nicely written thread with thought is a breath of fresh air around here.

Thank you, sir. I notice a lack of likes on quality content of mine (facts that debunk popularly held but wrong opinions) but then likes on other people's cheap and snarky idiotic one liners posted solely to try to make fun of or rival mine (neither can be done successfully). That just shows the discerning observer that there is always a segment that would rather eat a small plate of horse manure in the dirt out in the woods and beg for seconds than a filet mignon or quality steak at a five star restaurant when provided the choice. They haven't been exposed to quality enough to learn why it's better because it's typically not accessible at free sites. It makes no difference to me. Their mothers were popular cheap dates because they'd put out for the 99 cents menu item and didn't like the good stuff anyway because it didn't look as "familiar." As the old saying goes and is generally correct, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. As far as I'm concerned regarding correct response (or lack thereof) to my content, they'll learn to get it right by showing due appreciation or they just won't get it at all (in more ways than one). It's only sad for them they can't appreciate the difference.
 
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After the UTEP game the Vols will be ranked the highest that they will attain this year, let that soak in for a minute.
I do hope I’m wrong, however:)
 
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