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I thought the better side did not win this match. I say the better side only due to the German's technical skills and conditioning. They also played are very physical game (borderline dirty, imo) in the first half. They played with less "roughness" in the second half after what I suspect my have been a strong warning from the referee.

The Brits certainly earned the win, and I was glad to see them "find a way" to win at the end. Their passing reminded me a lot of our ladies passing in prior years, lacking both touch and direction on many occasions. That is the biggest thing on my wish list: Get better at passing and pass with a purpose in mind. If we want to move into the top 10 in Soccer programs, we simply have to get better passing the ball.

Enjoyed the match. Glad to see the Brit women earn some silverware. :)

P.S. Mad, you are doing a heck of a job keeping the soccer info flowing and turbo's insights are really enjoyable to read. Good on ya both!!!
 

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Sarina Wiegman has got the magic. She's undefeated in the last two Euros--won it with The Netherlands in 2017 (she is former Dutch NT player) and then little more than a year ago was hired away by England, and has now won the Euro again--and also has a WC final (with The Netherlands) to her credit. I suspect she got a big raise in pay to coach England--and England have a lot of talent and depth: we saw that in this tourney.

Meanwhile, The Dutch, whom I've been following for years, had various problems in this tourney--injuries, Miedema got Covid and missed two games and didn't look all that chipper against France, and their forward situation was not/is not good.

I loved Toone's goal to open the scoring today. Why? Because the chip was there, with the keeper way out of her net, and she took it, and she scored. SO many scoring chances are squandered by players in the women's game because they don't chip the ball over the keeper when the keeper comes out from her goal to cut down on the ball-carrier's shooting angle. Germany's Wasmuth had a good chance early in the second half: She was in on goal, England keeper Earps came out a bit, and Wasmuth could have lobbed the ball over her. She was on the left side--but had enough time to switch to her right foot (if she's right-footed, not sure) and just chip it far corner. Didn't do it. She instead, as so many players do, hit a fairly weak shot on the ground with her left foot. You need some touch to chip the ball--but we're talking about individuals who've been playing for years.

All in all, an excellent tournament and to sell out Wembley for the final (nearly 90K) is exciting. Germany had been in fairly poor form for a few years, but seems back--a lot of good young players.
 

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I love the rings except for the LV logo, which, it is worth noting, the soccer team under Pensky did not use--a move I was very happy with. I'm a lone
wolf, howling in the wilderness, when it comes to that more than 40-year-old logo. It looks outdated, is outdated--and women's teams do not need their own logo. Every player--men and women, yes--plays for the same university. It's a logical concept--and every other college/university in America seems to get that but UT. But I guess because the logo is associated with Summitt and the basketball program, and so the diehards, like Linus and his blanket, aim to hang on to that logo. I promise this is the last I'll say about it for.....a while.
 
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I love the rings except for the LV logo, which, it is worth noting, the soccer team under Pensky did not use--a move I was very happy with. I'm a lone
wolf, howling in the wilderness, when it comes to that more than 40-year-old logo. It looks outdated, is outdated--and women's teams do not need their own logo. Every player--men and women, yes--plays for the same university. It's a logical concept--and every other college/university in America seems to get that but UT. But I guess because the logo is associated with Summitt and the basketball program, and so the diehards, like Linus and his blanket, aim to hang on to that logo. I promise this is the last I'll say about it for.....a while.
Recently Baylor dropped “Lady” from their nickname. I think there must be something different going on with the Lady Vols because they did get rid of it for all sports besides basketball back in 2014, in 2017 it was brought back because of the outcry. All women’s sports at UT have the option to use it if they want now. Someone should start a thread with a poll surveying fans if they prefer with or without. To me it’s most important if the current players like it, does it turn some recruits away? I have no idea.
 

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I love the rings except for the LV logo, which, it is worth noting, the soccer team under Pensky did not use--a move I was very happy with. I'm a lone
wolf, howling in the wilderness, when it comes to that more than 40-year-old logo. It looks outdated, is outdated--and women's teams do not need their own logo. Every player--men and women, yes--plays for the same university. It's a logical concept--and every other college/university in America seems to get that but UT. But I guess because the logo is associated with Summitt and the basketball program, and so the diehards, like Linus and his blanket, aim to hang on to that logo. I promise this is the last I'll say about it for.....a while.
I like what Leah had to say. “I know how this country feels about football and it was just a matter of time before we figured out it’s not women’s football, it’s just football.”


Just realized the Women’s team are known as the Lionesses. So I was curious how people feel there and found this.

Fans slam calls to change England women's football team's 'sexist' Lionesses nickname | Daily Mail Online
 

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I like what Leah had to say. “I know how this country feels about football and it was just a matter of time before we figured out it’s not women’s football, it’s just football.”


Just realized the Women’s team are known as the Lionesses. So I was curious how people feel there and found this.

Fans slam calls to change England women's football team's 'sexist' Lionesses nickname | Daily Mail Online

Hey, I don't have a problem with Lionesses as female lions are still lions--and it's still a pretty strong nickname. I checked the Columbia women's soccer site and they use the same nickname as that the men and all other teams use at that university--lions. Penn State thankfully doesn't call its women's teams the Nittany Lionesses. It's just Nittany Lions.

As I've mentioned before--on another, non-soccer thread--a fair number of schools called their women's teams Lady THIS and Lady That back in the day--back when the playing field for women's and men's sports was quite uneven. It seemed OK in the 1970s or 80s--when the separate nickname and logo were first created, but things change. Women's athletics has changed enormously--that was the whole point of Title IX--to give women's athletics the same respect, status and resources etc as the men. It was about equality. So why continue to call your women's teams Ladies? It's s a fine word, generally, but not exactly a strong word when it comes to sports and athletics. Every time I hear Lady Vols I think of a 1950s housewife, in the kitchen, in an apron. It's provincial--and I'm not keen on provincialism. (I was shocked, as a UT grad, by the Greg Schiano protest by some of our football fans. Talk about provincialism: It was the most embarrassing episode in the history of Tennessee athletics--just completely stupid and disastrous on multiple levels.) Nobody but UT uses the term Lady as part of thletics/school nickname anymore. North Carolina's women's teams are the Tar Heels--not the Lady Tar Heels. Texas women are the Longhorns--not the Lady Longhorns. And the LV logo, with its baby blue script, is way outdated and not strong looking at all. Everybody plays for the same university, and every team should have the same university nickname and same logo--and every school in America does--but us. The Power T is great--simple, strong. Of course fans still like the Lady Vol name--that's all they've known for more than 40 years. Washington Redskins fans didn't want to get rid of the name "Redskins." People get attached to things and don't like change-- I get it.

In any case, I'm been beating this horse for a while--apologies, really--and, now, I truly, truly promise to drop it!
 
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Interesting that Pensky’s first 4 matches are against the SEC, 3 of the 4 are in the East Division.
You would think that has to give him an advantage.
Given the starters he's lost, it could be a challenging first year at FSU for Pensky. FSU fans are predicting a bit of a falloff--at least by their standards. We'll see.

In my opinion, teams that could be very good this year are Penn State (picked up a couple of good transfers, including an excellent scorer from Southern Cal--ton of talent), North Carolina, UVA, Duke, BYU (always well-coached and play a very attractive style of soccer, as does Santa Clara), mostly the usual suspects. And let's throw the Vols in there as well--but we are not used to playing top 5 national teams and so will have some early opportunities to show what we've got. You need to be very solid in the back, for starters, to play with the top tier teams--and you need quality depth.
 

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Speaking of Eskin, she's a good player. She played on outside midfield last year, as a sub, and was effective--she is fast, gets around the field well and can get forward on the dribble. She got hurt in the SEC tourney--some sort of leg/knee injury and I'm not sure if she's fully recovered. Let's hope so as she is quality depth, for sure.
 

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Given the starters he's lost, it could be a challenging first year at FSU for Pensky. FSU fans are predicting a bit of a falloff--at least by their standards. We'll see.

In my opinion, teams that could be very good this year are Penn State (picked up a couple of good transfers, including an excellent scorer from Southern Cal--ton of talent), North Carolina, UVA, Duke, BYU (always well-coached and play a very attractive style of soccer, as does Santa Clara), mostly the usual suspects. And let's throw the Vols in there as well--but we are not used to playing top 5 national teams and so will have some early opportunities to show what we've got. You need to be very solid in the back, for starters, to play with the top tier teams--and you need quality depth.
Well preseason polls that came out yesterday still have FSU #1. Duke #2 who we play. Putting us at 11 seems fair. Everyone above in the rankings are still above us. Only change was South Carolina went below us while the Tar Heels went above.
The teams that surprise me are the pac 10, they have all fallen off lately including Stanford and UCLA.
 
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