Tennessee QB Joey Aguilar Tackles Fourth Offense in 28 Months

#27
#27
Oldvoldad said:
He will end up the starter. I see HH written all over this story.
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I will say this, JA is closer to the same type of QB HH was more so than Joe or Nico were IMO. The deal will be how he picks it up, it's hard to know you see a QB start out at Juco or a Community College and sometimes you don't give their smarts credit. Remember Aaron Rodgers went to Juco and he is a very accomplished and intelligent in football and in general scored high SAT and very high GPA at Cal Berkeley. So, if JA has the football smarts and takes the experiences in JUCO and App State and even his time at UCLA and use all that eclectic football background to enhance the Josh Heupel Offense it could go well.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It's timing to avoid false starts, get used to the receivers, etc which will be the problem for Joey.

You get 6yds on 1st down with a run, then false start and you're 2nd and 11. You throw a little slant, but your timing is off a little and it's behind the receiver or hit another run for 6yds and you're at 3rd and 5 or 3rd and 11.

QBs and the O Line need reps, more reps, and more reps. QBs and receivers need the timing for quick and tight window throws to be really good and that's reps and knowing what your receiver can do for you.

For efficient execution, Linemen need to be comfortable with the QB cadence and the QB and receivers need to be dialed in with each other.

How quickly will they come together? Who knows but it is far, far from optimal to have a QB arrive on campus in mid May and start in late September.

Watch the pre snap penalties and throws that are just a little off when we play Syracuse. It'll get better but will it get SEC level better? It better.
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2nd and 9 but point stands.
 
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kell7517 said:
If Joey is named the starter. Either Merk or Mac will
Be gone. IMO.
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Plan was for GMac to sit this year regardless. If Joey starts merk is one play away from being the starter. Both of those guys imo will play plenty of snaps imo until we sort out who the starter is; I also think both guys will start before the year is over.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
How has that been proven? Usually QBs don’t light the world on fire early on in a new system. There are some exceptions of course but most take time.
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These players transfer to multiple schools and play right away usually. Think Beck will have a big learning curve for the Hurricanes? Think they are shelling out NIL bucks without an assumption they play immediately?
 
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The Original Fade said:
These players transfer to multiple schools and play right away usually. Think Beck will have a big learning curve for the Hurricanes? Think they are shelling out NIL bucks without an assumption they play immediately?
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Sure, he’s better than what they had but a lot of the time the second year is where you see better production. Take Burrow as an example. That’s why I was curious to see Nico after a year on the field. This has been a while of course but I was talking to Rick Clausen once and we were talking about the QB at the time, Crompton maybe? I asked Rick why he thought our QB was struggling and he said it was because he had a new system every year up to that point.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
HH wasn't a turnover machine before he got here.
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I believe I've read some pretty good analysis on his interceptions. The writers of the article were convinced Aguilar playing in the Heupel system will be much more accurate and throw far less interceptions. Yes he is talented and accurate and the offense he will run this year will help him in that category. A lot of his interceptions at App St were basically trying to put the team on his back and win or make a big come back. Lets let the season play out then judge. :)
 
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BruisedOrange said:
In response to your question...

A phrase we often hear from 2nd-year starters is "I'm understanding the concepts better." I think that means they were able to play the year before because they had "memorized" the plays, formations, blocking assignments, etc.

But understanding the concepts behind those details evidently speeds up their on-field processing (necessary to the success of this offense) and allows them to deal correctly with defensive schemes that may appear new to them. Understanding the concepts will lead them intuitively to the correct read or decision, despite the details being novel.

So "mastering" this offense seems to be accomplished in layers, both mentally in the position room and on the field, as read & react times become more efficient while they're being ported into muscle memory.

I think that's why Heupel's ideal would be to have a QB learn the offense and the position demands (at this level) for 2 years, earn opportunities to develop field-presence in his 3rd year, then lay out his NFL resume in his 4th season (redshirt Jr. year).

:) IMHO.
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I was looking to see if someone answered his question. My understanding is that Huepel’s offense is fairly simple, especially with Golesh gone.

Yes, Josh Heupel's offense at Tennessee is often described as simple and easy to understand, particularly for quarterbacks. While it can be effective, some also see it as a "gimmick" or too basic, particularly compared to more complex pro-style offenses.

Here's a more detailed look:
  • Simplicity and Readability:
    Heupel's offense emphasizes getting the ball into the hands of playmakers and forcing defenses to cover in space. It's designed to be easy for quarterbacks to read and execute, allowing them to focus on making plays.

  • Verbal Coaching:
    Heupel is known for using a "verbal coaching" approach, where he focuses on teaching the fundamentals and principles of his offense, rather than overly complicated schemes.

  • "Gimmick" Criticism:
    Some argue that Heupel's offense, while effective, is not based on pro-style principles and may be susceptible to being figured out by opposing defenses.

  • Effective Against Certain Defenses:
    The simplicity of Heupel's offense can be a strength, as it forces defenses to make choices between overloading the box or covering receivers, potentially leaving the running game open.

  • Not a "Gimmick":
    Heupel has refuted the "gimmick" label, stating that his offense is based on fundamental principles and is designed to maximize the team's talent.

 
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vegasvolfan said:
I was looking to see if someone answered his question. My understanding is that Huepel’s offense is fairly simple, especially with Golesh gone.

Yes, Josh Heupel's offense at Tennessee is often described as simple and easy to understand, particularly for quarterbacks. While it can be effective, some also see it as a "gimmick" or too basic, particularly compared to more complex pro-style offenses.

Here's a more detailed look:
  • Simplicity and Readability:
    Heupel's offense emphasizes getting the ball into the hands of playmakers and forcing defenses to cover in space. It's designed to be easy for quarterbacks to read and execute, allowing them to focus on making plays.

  • Verbal Coaching:
    Heupel is known for using a "verbal coaching" approach, where he focuses on teaching the fundamentals and principles of his offense, rather than overly complicated schemes.

  • "Gimmick" Criticism:
    Some argue that Heupel's offense, while effective, is not based on pro-style principles and may be susceptible to being figured out by opposing defenses.

  • Effective Against Certain Defenses:
    The simplicity of Heupel's offense can be a strength, as it forces defenses to make choices between overloading the box or covering receivers, potentially leaving the running game open.

  • Not a "Gimmick":
    Heupel has refuted the "gimmick" label, stating that his offense is based on fundamental principles and is designed to maximize the team's talent.
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chatgpt lmao
 
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It's hard for me to grasp a QB being on campus less than 4 months and no Spring practice starting game 1. Either Joey will be Superman or Heupel will dumb down his offense more than it was last season. If that's possible.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
In response to your question...

A phrase we often hear from 2nd-year starters is "I'm understanding the concepts better." I think that means they were able to play the year before because they had "memorized" the plays, formations, blocking assignments, etc.

But understanding the concepts behind those details evidently speeds up their on-field processing (necessary to the success of this offense) and allows them to deal correctly with defensive schemes that may appear new to them. Understanding the concepts will lead them intuitively to the correct read or decision, despite the details being novel.

So "mastering" this offense seems to be accomplished in layers, both mentally in the position room and on the field, as read & react times become more efficient while they're being ported into muscle memory.

I think that's why Heupel's ideal would be to have a QB learn the offense and the position demands (at this level) for 2 years, earn opportunities to develop field-presence in his 3rd year, then lay out his NFL resume in his 4th season (redshirt Jr. year).

:) IMHO.
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I was looking to see if someone answered his question. My understanding is that Huepel’s offense is fairly simple, especially with Golesh gone.

Yes, Josh Heupel's offense at Tennessee is often described as simple and easy to understand, particularly for quarterbacks. While it can be effective, some also see it as a "gimmick" or too basic, particularly compared to more complex pro-style offenses.

Here's a more detailed look:
  • Simplicity and Readability:
    Heupel's offense emphasizes getting the ball into the hands of playmakers and forcing defenses to cover in space. It's designed to be easy for quarterbacks to read and execute, allowing them to focus on making plays.

  • Verbal Coaching:
    Heupel is known for using a "verbal coaching" approach, where he focuses on teaching the fundamentals and principles of his offense, rather than overly complicated schemes.

  • "Gimmick" Criticism:
    Some argue that Heupel's offense, while effective, is not based on pro-style principles and may be susceptible to being figured out by opposing defenses.

  • Effective Against Certain Defenses:
    The simplicity of Heupel's offense can be a strength, as it forces defenses to make choices between overloading the box or covering receivers, potentially leaving the running game open.

  • Not a "Gimmick":
    Heupel has refuted the "gimmick" label, stating that his offense is based on fundamental principles and is designed to maximize the team's talent.

 
#40
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BruisedOrange said:
Agreed. Plus, Merk will be getting a higher percentage of snaps in practice this summer than he would have had Nico stayed. GMac's quality and quantity of practice and play time will be exactly what he anticipated before Nico left.

In fact, GMac will probably enjoy the added bonus of hearing Merk and Halzle bringing Joey up to speed. Joey, coming from his unique experiences with different offenses, will be asking different questions than they or Nico would have--which always brings more light to a subject. More learning will occur in the QB room this summer because Joey is there.

The biggest setback this summer will be with the receivers (a group from which we need young, new receivers to rise sooner than usual), as they will have to learn how to anticipate and catch passes from 2-3 different QBs (advantage: Merk).

Likewise, for GMac and Joey, they will have to learn and sync with every receiver in the room, as the competition among receivers for playing time runs top-to-bottom there.
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If Merk is QB1, we’ve got problems, GMAC needs to put on more weight or he will get hurt against SEC teams
 
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Tnphil said:
It's hard for me to grasp a QB being on campus less than 4 months and no Spring practice starting game 1. Either Joey will be Superman or Heupel will dumb down his offense more than it was last season. If that's possible.
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Not that he was great early, but Joe Milton did it.
 
#42
#42
vol94fan said:
Joey will be a back-up QB unless somebody gets hurt. He will have plenty of time to learn the playbook.
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Stop, Merk is not the answer. I don't know what body of work people are being this off of. G Mac is better than Merk, but he's not ready. Both are reliable backups. We didn't bring Joey on to be another backup. Kid is a baller and excited to see what ge can do with actual talent around him.
 
#43
#43
Tnphil said:
It's hard for me to grasp a QB being on campus less than 4 months and no Spring practice starting game 1. Either Joey will be Superman or Heupel will dumb down his offense more than it was last season. If that's possible.
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Or he could implement some of that App state playbook into ours
 
#44
#44
FranklinVFL said:
Why? They were planning on sitting this year behind Nico anyway...nothing really changed. One year veteran coming in to replace Nico and then open competition following year. I see nothing changed in their plans.
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Well if someone at your job suddenly retired, and then you went out and got an external hire, then internal candidates who applied may be upset, even if they hadn’t planned on having that job to begin with
 
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FranklinVFL said:
Why? They were planning on sitting this year behind Nico anyway...nothing really changed. One year veteran coming in to replace Nico and then open competition following year. I see nothing changed in their plans.
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Nico is a redshirt sophomore this year. Joey is guaranteed to be gone next year. The only thing that's changed is whoever takes over will likely get the starting job sooner than they would have. I don't get the xfer talk either.
 
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#48
Merk needs to gtfo now. With Brandon in, JA in and Mac not going anywhere (yet), he's toast.
 
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