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not the spread, it's the west coast. Look at the Eagles and Bucs, you will see the Tennessee offense.
 
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I was just curious to see what the experts use to define the WC vs Spread. It is interesting to see the differences in theories.

I have to agree the WC is well suited to the Vols this year....but they could run an effective spread offense with greater mobility at QB this year, but that requires speed on the O-line (not clear how we are set there).

West Coast Offense

The West Coast Offense is a passing ball control offense. Once thought a contradiction in terms, it achieves ball control by using short, high percentage passing routes. Since the routes are relatively short, and the pass leaves the quarterback's hand quickly, there is less need for additional blockers. Thus all five eligible receivers are (typically) used extensively in the West Coast offense. Spreading the ball to all potential targets can create mismatches, often between a running back and a linebacker, or perhaps the tight end and a linebacker. By forcing tighter coverage between the safeties and offensive players, the West Coast offense can pull the safeties toward the line of scrimmage without running and thus it can set up the long pass play with shorter passes.

By throwing lots of short passes, the West Coast offense gets the ball to the faster players in open space more frequently. The notion of yards after catch (YAC) was invented for west coast offense players. Twenty yard pass plays used to mean long deep out or deep in patterns with a strong armed quarterback but now more frequently the twenty yard play involves a six yard pass to a talented receiver who made a couple of good moves—and perhaps got a block downfield from a fellow receiver.

The West Coast offense, at its best, annoys a defense into foolishness. By consistently completing short passes, it encourages the defensive backs to move closer to the line of scrimmage. The quarterback releases the ball so quickly that the pass rushers are tempted to complacency. Further, it gives the offense confidence. A combination of these factors afford the offense a good opportunity to throw deeper passes.

This is not to say the West Coast offense abandons the run. A running game complements the West Coast Offense because short passes naturally set up situations when the run is more favorable.



Spread offense

The spread offense is a generic term used to describe an offense that operates out of a formation with multiple wide receivers, usually out of the Shotgun, and can be run or pass oriented. One of the goals of the spread offense is to stretch the field both horizontally and vertically, and to take what is normally most teams best defenders (linebackers) out of the game by utilizing three or more receivers.

Today variants of the spread are popular in high school and college football, with more modest versions appearing in the NFL. In college, especially, the offense often depends largely on option and misdirection runs, using all of the skill players on offense. The zone read is often a very popular play in this type of offense because of its flexibility, moreso if a team has an athletic quarterback who can run the ball as well as pass. Linemen in the spread are often smaller and more agile so they can block effectively no screens, zones, options, and protect against aggressively blitzing defenses such as the 3-3-5 stack. As the defense, already spread out, begins to focus on stopping the run, the spread creates mismatches and single coverage on receivers, which creates opportunities in the passing game. Utilizing receiver motion along with jet sweeps is also an important part of creating confusion and running a balanced, yet successful, spread offense.

The success of the offense depends on creating mismatches (a linebacker covering a receiver), the ability for the quarterback and the receivers to find holes in the zone, and defensive breakdowns in the secondary (the receiver and quarterback both read that the safety will not rotate over to help the cornerback, so the receiver breaks to the outside or up the sideline with single coverage). Few defenses are able to cope with a well-executed spread run-pass threat, which is one reason why football scores have been rising in recent years.



"Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust"..........aka "Pound the Rock"

Used to describe the run-heavy offenses such as run by Woody Hayes of Ohio State University in the 1950s and 1960s. A quarterback under Hayes would often throw fewer than 10 passes a game. Hayes is credited as saying "Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad".[1] This is a grind-it-out ball control offense that relies on time of possession and high percentage inside running off of handoffs to advance the ball down the field. Successful as it was, it was a slower-moving brand of football and is rarely used today above the high school level.........exception being, when CPF has a 7 point lead in the 3rd qtr.
 
#5
#5
I'd like to think of our offense as a "New Age" offense.

Because quite frankly I have no clue how to classify Clawson's style.
 
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I was just curious to see what the experts use to define the WC vs Spread. It is interesting to see the differences in theories.

I have to agree the WC is well suited to the Vols this year....but they could run an effective spread offense with greater mobility at QB this year, but that requires speed on the O-line (not clear how we are set there).

West Coast Offense

The West Coast Offense is a passing ball control offense. Once thought a contradiction in terms, it achieves ball control by using short, high percentage passing routes. Since the routes are relatively short, and the pass leaves the quarterback's hand quickly, there is less need for additional blockers. Thus all five eligible receivers are (typically) used extensively in the West Coast offense. Spreading the ball to all potential targets can create mismatches, often between a running back and a linebacker, or perhaps the tight end and a linebacker. By forcing tighter coverage between the safeties and offensive players, the West Coast offense can pull the safeties toward the line of scrimmage without running and thus it can set up the long pass play with shorter passes.

By throwing lots of short passes, the West Coast offense gets the ball to the faster players in open space more frequently. The notion of yards after catch (YAC) was invented for west coast offense players. Twenty yard pass plays used to mean long deep out or deep in patterns with a strong armed quarterback but now more frequently the twenty yard play involves a six yard pass to a talented receiver who made a couple of good moves—and perhaps got a block downfield from a fellow receiver.

The West Coast offense, at its best, annoys a defense into foolishness. By consistently completing short passes, it encourages the defensive backs to move closer to the line of scrimmage. The quarterback releases the ball so quickly that the pass rushers are tempted to complacency. Further, it gives the offense confidence. A combination of these factors afford the offense a good opportunity to throw deeper passes.

This is not to say the West Coast offense abandons the run. A running game complements the West Coast Offense because short passes naturally set up situations when the run is more favorable.



Spread offense

The spread offense is a generic term used to describe an offense that operates out of a formation with multiple wide receivers, usually out of the Shotgun, and can be run or pass oriented. One of the goals of the spread offense is to stretch the field both horizontally and vertically, and to take what is normally most teams best defenders (linebackers) out of the game by utilizing three or more receivers.

Today variants of the spread are popular in high school and college football, with more modest versions appearing in the NFL. In college, especially, the offense often depends largely on option and misdirection runs, using all of the skill players on offense. The zone read is often a very popular play in this type of offense because of its flexibility, moreso if a team has an athletic quarterback who can run the ball as well as pass. Linemen in the spread are often smaller and more agile so they can block effectively no screens, zones, options, and protect against aggressively blitzing defenses such as the 3-3-5 stack. As the defense, already spread out, begins to focus on stopping the run, the spread creates mismatches and single coverage on receivers, which creates opportunities in the passing game. Utilizing receiver motion along with jet sweeps is also an important part of creating confusion and running a balanced, yet successful, spread offense.

The success of the offense depends on creating mismatches (a linebacker covering a receiver), the ability for the quarterback and the receivers to find holes in the zone, and defensive breakdowns in the secondary (the receiver and quarterback both read that the safety will not rotate over to help the cornerback, so the receiver breaks to the outside or up the sideline with single coverage). Few defenses are able to cope with a well-executed spread run-pass threat, which is one reason why football scores have been rising in recent years.



"Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust"..........aka "Pound the Rock"

Used to describe the run-heavy offenses such as run by Woody Hayes of Ohio State University in the 1950s and 1960s. A quarterback under Hayes would often throw fewer than 10 passes a game. Hayes is credited as saying "Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad".[1] This is a grind-it-out ball control offense that relies on time of possession and high percentage inside running off of handoffs to advance the ball down the field. Successful as it was, it was a slower-moving brand of football and is rarely used today above the high school level.........exception being, when CPF has a 7 point lead in the 3rd qtr.

Good Post....Thank You!
 
#10
#10
Just hope it fares better than it did in Nebraska. The WC offense that is.
 
#11
#11
It is not a true West Coast offense either.

I don't really think it'll be too much like the Eagles, as the original poster implied. They've traditionally been a very pass heavy offense under Reid, although I think they've gone to the run more often lately. Still, I think we'll run on first down much more frequently than the Eagles.
 
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#12
Just hope it fares better than it did in Nebraska. The WC offense that is.
Our offense will look nothing like Nebraska's did other than how some formations will look. UT's will be run oriented and will be opened up more, which really isn't a WCO at all.

For people wanting to know what the O will look like, go watch the spring game.
 
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#13
Just hope it fares better than it did in Nebraska. The WC offense that is.

The difference is that Nebraska was coached by a joke of a coach. I don't like hammering on other coaches, but he's an exception.

He also took a bunch of kids who could run the option and then expected them to be able to turn into the 1984 49ers reincarnated.
 
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#14
you'll love this offense, trust me. wide open running, throwing (throwing deep). watch eagles film.
 
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#17
when I think "West Coast Offense" I think of passing. from what I've heard of Clawsen's offense is it's more focused around running the ball
 
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#18
There is nothing wrong with a "ball control offense" But when you have too many Chiefs and not enough Indians.....we will see the same thing as always as in up the gut play on a 3rd and 14.
Phil hired a new offensive co. if he can keep his hands out of Clawsons pockets and voice out of his ear and deal with the o-line as he is supposed to do, I think we might have something.
Don't get me wrong, I love tradition at UT, that's what it's all about, but the tradition of barely winning, sitting on the ball with a 7 point lead, up the middle on a 3rd and 14, swing out passes for 3 yards, and arm tackling DB's needs to stop.
 
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#19
The Miami Dolphins say no, the New England Patriots take themsleves way too seriously for that crap.
 
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not the spread, it's the west coast. Look at the Eagles and Bucs, you will see the Tennessee offense.


Dave Clawson may disagree.

He was on the radio a couple of months ago and was asked what he would say in response to the Vol fans who were concerned about having the west coast offense in Knoxville.

His response was basically "Well, I would tell them not to worry because it is not the west coast offense."
 
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#22
It seems to me that with our new offense, defensive cordinators will have a tough time coming up with an exact game plan.
 
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#23
I don't think Clawson's Offense is anything of a "cookie-cutter" mold of any pre-existing offense. To him, by his words, and to me that is very archaic and more often than not very limiting. He said when he took the job (could be coach-speak, but I doubt it):

"We're going to get the ball to our playmakers," promised Clawson. "We're going to put those guys in different positions and try to get them the ball in space, so they can do creative things. We want to be very multiple - a lot of formations, a lot of shifts."

Basically, he will change his entire offensive philosophy around his playmakers. I don't think we'll see the exact same offense week-to-week, as the playmaker's role will change based on the defense that we're facing... just my take.
 
#24
#24
Our offense will look nothing like Nebraska's did other than how some formations will look. UT's will be run oriented and will be opened up more, which really isn't a WCO at all.

For people wanting to know what the O will look like, go watch the spring game.

I would love to watch the spring game, where do I go to do that? You got video?:crazy:
 
#25
#25
I would love to watch the spring game, where do I go to do that? You got video?:crazy:

The Florida Gators will be more than happy to lend you their video of our Spring Game.

Is joke! Is joke!
 
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