Tennessee isn't the only SEC school raping its football fans at the box office

#51
#51
I guess UGA is having a greater demand for tickets this season than UT is. I got a letter last week from UT concerning additional season tickets being made available to current season ticket holders. The available seats are in the LOWER levels of the North and South end zones. The number of seats available is not mentioned. Maximum you can purchase is 4.

I assumed that the buzz created by Kiffin and Co. would have resulted in great demand for season tickets. Maybe the university is simply rewarding current season ticket holders with an opportunity to get 2009 season tickets with no increase in annual donation. Maybe the down economy has resulted in non-renewals in numbers not seen in recent years. The letter says this offer is for 2009 season ONLY and priority dead line is August 15.

I assume that if current season ticket holders don't grab all of these seats they will be made available to the general public (after 8-15-09). The ticket booklet (with all home games) is $360----and you're in the lower bowl. Frankly, I anticipated a waiting list for tickets, not a bunch for sale. The offer is for the 2009 season only and you have no option to continue to purchase your seats in future seasons.

UT away game tickets, especially 'Bama, UF, UGA, , are in great demand and are offered to Tennessee Fund donors (formerly VASF). Some get the opportunity to buy 2, some 4 and some even more, depending on where they rank in the UT point system.
 
#52
#52
The price of a barrel of oil, late 90s tech boom, real estate market, NASDAQ, big board and $1,200 front row seats at the yankees new ball park are laughing with me.

Woolworth's, Circuit City, Hills Supermarkets, Red Food, Media Play, The Whig Party, Rome, and the Soviet Union agree.
 
#55
#55
Those entities were in the business of selling NFL and SEC football tickets?

Man, you are great at creating straw men to argue with...

They were regional powers who dominated a market... several of them had no serious competitors at their biggest, but ended up doing themselves in by not seeing the big picture.

There was a time where Minnesota, Cal, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Army, TCU, and Chicago were all big time programs who always sold out and were the biggest powers in their respective regions. The only point I'm trying to raise is that ANYTHING can be run into the ground... and while the economic troubles are not serious enough for people to quit spending money on football tickets, there would be a theoretical tipping point somewhere out there. The simply disparity in pricing between face value and what is seen among resellers indicates that this isn't a simple matter of supply and demand pricing.

Just because you CAN sell enough tickets at a particular price to keep your stadium full, it doesn't mean you shouldn't keep pricing low enough for Joe Q. Public to purchase if only to keep them happy and coming back when your team isn't doing so great.

Understandably, I can't prove my claim until it either comes to pass or it doesn't. That's not my goal, I'm just suggesting that only looking at the economics of this as the most basic level and making decisions based upon that may be great in the short term... but it MAY come back and bite you in the ass later.
 
#57
#57
My only problem with this is that you can't add your voice to the chorus of Rocky Top... Oh, and the TV stations rarely show anywhere near enough of the band.


I don't go to games...I'd rather watch them on my tv, in my livingroom, where cokes aren't
$7.50 and theres rarely a line at the restroom. I have my own private replay boo
th, and the nachos are to die for.
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#59
#59
meh, if you want to get me started this is a pretty good subject.

When you refer to this as pure capitalism, thats fine in that Georgia has a choice to price tickets for the long run or short run... and that if they do attempt to maximize their return per ticket, they risk damaging their future ticket sales. At some point, profit maximization and capitalism became one and the same in the common vernacular, and thats only because the risk/reward system of the decision makes doesn't allow them to benefit to the highest degree unless they only concern themselves with the period where they will be employed. It's exactly why you end up seeing companies that were viewed as nearly invincible go out of business.

I'm tired of getting lessons in economics from people who generally took a 100 level class because they were forced to their freshman year.

Yes, people will pay those prices... but eventually you will turn enough people away from future purchasing if they believe the university is willing to stick it to them. Loyalty towards a sports team is finite.

Damon Evans (UGA's AD) is running an $85 million business. You don't think he knows what he's doing?

Contributions to UGA's athletic department are down, thanks to the economy. So if you're Damon Evans, what do you do to keep the checks coming? Establish ticket-purchasing policies that make it clear that they're still counting how much people are giving, and that failure to keep giving will have consequences. Evans doesn't really care about selling tickets, per se, as much as he does using tickets as a cudgel to ensure that the donations coming in.

Evans knows his market. These are people who have been sending him hundreds or thousands of dollars a year just for the privilege of buying tickets; as long as the team is winning, they're not just going to get pissed off and turn off UGA football. He's getting their money one way or another; he's just trying to make sure that he gets as much of it as possible.
 
#60
#60
Damon Evans (UGA's AD) is running an $85 million business. You don't think he knows what he's doing?

Contributions to UGA's athletic department are down, thanks to the economy. So if you're Damon Evans, what do you do to keep the checks coming? Establish ticket-purchasing policies that make it clear that they're still counting how much people are giving, and that failure to keep giving will have consequences. Evans doesn't really care about selling tickets, per se, as much as he does using tickets as a cudgel to ensure that the donations coming in.

Evans knows his market. These are people who have been sending him hundreds or thousands of dollars a year just for the privilege of buying tickets; as long as the team is winning, they're not just going to get pissed off and turn off UGA football. He's getting their money one way or another; he's just trying to make sure that he gets as much of it as possible.

Not to mention that the analysis of the rise and fall of businesses was atrocious.
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#61
#61
Which NFL franchise do those parties own?

That's wasn't my point, I was responding to and addressing the bigger picture that markets increasing at an exponential rate invariably collapse. The SEC nor NFL have reached the tipping point, nor are they about to with the possible exception of the Cowboys, but they aren't immune to market forces either.
 
#62
#62
Georgia says its fans can't buy a Tennessee-Bulldog ticket for the Oct. 10 game in Knoxville unless they've made a cumulative lifetime contribution of $21,950 to the Georgia athletics department.
It'll take a $4,000 contribution to buy a ticket to Georgia's Sept. 5 opener at Oklahoma State.
Tickets for the Oct. 3 Georgia home game with LSU will require lifetime contributions of $42,500. And Georgia fans wanting to buy home season tickets for the first time will have to fork over $4,205 in lifetime contributions.
That is extortion, pure and simple. The guilty parties are Georgia athletics director Damon Evans and president Michael Adams. Both should be jailed. Isn't there an attorney general somewhere with enough guts to bring an extortion indictment against bandits like these?

:ermm: uhhhhhhhhh, what the HELL are you talking about?

TENNESSEE OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE - Tennessee Fund

to be eligible for away game tix you have to donate $1,000 to the tennessee fund (vasf). you then have the option to buy away tix, these tix are alloted and given out dependent on the rank within your yearly giving level class. generally the people who donate more get better chances of getting what they what.

this is not extortion or "rape" by any means :crazy: it's a business not a charity. the people who pay the most money will generally get more benefits because they payed for them.
 
#63
#63
It's like the old Yogi Berra line, talking about a restaurant in New York city:

"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."
 
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