Tennessee is 15th in the nation is SCORING and RUSHING

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99gator said:
I made my prediction last week and had Tennessee winning. In the prediction, I indicated that I wasn't sold on Tennessee being a good team but did not think they were bad. I said I thought Florida was bad.

If that field goal was good and Tennessee won, it would change the win-loss record and everyone would be happy because the streak was over, beat Florida, etc, etc, etc.

But, the fact would have remained that Tennessee is not playing to their capability and is not a good football team.

To make matters worse, the field goal wasn't good and they lost and so far that's all they've proven they know how to do against decent competition
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I agree with this except I'd say Tennessee and Florida are both good in the larger scheme of college football but that means they are mediocre in the SEC. I think UT has a better team but as you indicate is not playing to their capability.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
And that's while we have played 2 legit defenses and only 1 FCS team. The sky is not falling. We're doing a lot of things well. We just need to FINISH. Get a little better on defense late in games and open up the passing game and we can run the table.

10-2 is not unlikely when you are elite at rushing and scoring offense.
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Where do we rank on passing?

It is if that offense is one dimensional.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
And that's while we have played 2 legit defenses and only 1 FCS team. The sky is not falling. We're doing a lot of things well. We just need to FINISH. Get a little better on defense late in games and open up the passing game and we can run the table.

10-2 is not unlikely when you are elite at rushing and scoring offense.
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Padded by playing Bowling Green who has the #117 defense in the nation and Western Carolina that shouldn't even count.
 
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a vol n tears said:
I posed this question in another forum: If the coaches had rushed 4 and even blitzed on the 4th and 14, and one or more of TN defenders got to the QB but let him wrestle away (just like multiple times in the OK game) and he had completed the pass for the TD, is it the coaches fault? I think the defensive backfield is not nearly as good as it needs to be. May be injuries, but they get beat a lot. Again not the coaches fault
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They always get beat a lot, which is exactly why you blitz in that scenario and force the QB to throw the underneath route that doesn't get the first down.
 
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Florida 30 22
WCU N/A
Oklahoma 49 53
Bowling Green 114 97

Too early to be counting on stats to prop up the coaches but, since we are talking numbers, the first number of the teams we have played is scoring defense followed by rushing defense.

Make it through the next three weeks with those scoring and rushing stats holding steady and I will be impressed. Arkansas, Georgia, and Alabama are all top 25 in rush defense.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
And that's while we have played 2 legit defenses and only 1 FCS team. The sky is not falling. We're doing a lot of things well. We just need to FINISH. Get a little better on defense late in games and open up the passing game and we can run the table.

10-2 is not unlikely when you are elite at rushing and scoring offense.
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I am absolutely positive that the players UT has on roster can make a run. The talent is there, right now. The problem isn't the players. They give it all and leave it out on the field. It's the "brain trust" that needs to be tweaked and until they find their way or make the necessary changes, the talent will be wasted.
 
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a vol n tears said:
I posed this question in another forum: If the coaches had rushed 4 and even blitzed on the 4th and 14, and one or more of TN defenders got to the QB but let him wrestle away (just like multiple times in the OK game) and he had completed the pass for the TD, is it the coaches fault? I think the defensive backfield is not nearly as good as it needs to be. May be injuries, but they get beat a lot. Again not the coaches fault
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I totally disagree. It that particular situation they need 15 yards to keep possession of the ball and have any chance to win the game. If you put any pressure on the QB you change his ability to make read progressions. We almost had a sack for loss the play before. If you bring 5 or 6 he has maybe 2 secs to throw the ball. The likely hood of an open receiver 15 yards downfield in under 2seconds is a risk worth taking. He stood in the pocket for what felt like 4 or 5 seconds and threw to a wide open receiver when our db's lost contain. NO Defense in college football can cover 5 receivers for 4-5 seconds, Hell I doubt NFL teams can!
 
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People have been saying "It's tough to be a Vols fan" since before Fulmer left. It got worse With Kiffin and even worse with Dooley. Now we have CBJ...should we have won the OK and Fl games...YES we should have. Is it beyond frustrating that what seems like year after endless year we don't come close to expectations. Is it infuriating that A once powerhouse SEC team like our beloved Vols haven't met our expectations in what is more then quite a few years...YES. so its ok if the fan base is frustrated, its ok if they hold the coaching staff in suspect. Until we see results all the questioning is realistic not unrealistic. There is a point where you can only take so much. I do believe that coaching in the SEC is different then where CBJ came from and he has a learning curve as well but its time he got there. Hopefully soon.
 
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99gator said:
I made my prediction last week and had Tennessee winning. In the prediction, I indicated that I wasn't sold on Tennessee being a good team but did not think they were bad. I said I thought Florida was bad.

If that field goal was good and Tennessee won, it would change the win-loss record and everyone would be happy because the streak was over, beat Florida, etc, etc, etc.

But, the fact would have remained that Tennessee is not playing to their capability and is not a good football team.

To make matters worse, the field goal wasn't good and they lost and so far that's all they've proven they know how to do against decent competition
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For future reference ban from making pre-game predictions.
 
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sjt18 said:
You still want to lay it on the players, don't you? The COACH needs to finish. And the COACH needs to open up the passing game.



No. But it is pretty near impossible with the conservative game management we've seen.
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AMEN, sjt. If Butch's game management does not change dramatically, he may not be the guy. I just don't think he could possibly be that stubborn and has to realize and admit where he's screwing up. This "chart" crap is BS, too. The really good coaches develope a feel for the flow of each game and, sometimes, go with thier instincts, even when it might go against said chart(s). I think Butch might be still be learning that "..feel of the flow.. " thingy.
 
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99gator said:
10-2 is not unlikely?

Ok
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I hate your program. I hate your ease of recruiting. I hate that ignorant gator chomp. I hate your stadium...looks like it was designed by a child with those stupid orange walls in the stands. I hate your luck. I hate your heismans. I hate that you have male and female mascots. I hate how you fold later in the year but we always play you early. I hate the two bits cheer. I hate Gainesville. I hate your history of hiring low class coaches. I hate Gatorade. I hate the cow pasture you call a field. I hate the streak. I hate your school colors. I hate your community service. I hate your scholarships to needy, good kids. I hate your campus. I hope your program is the first in the history of the ncaa to be permanently banned. I hate your stench. I hate your stupid faces. I want to live long enough to see you become an irrelevant laughing stock.

Been festering inside me since saturday. I feel better, now. Thanks.
 
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99gator said:
I made my prediction last week and had Tennessee winning. In the prediction, I indicated that I wasn't sold on Tennessee being a good team but did not think they were bad. I said I thought Florida was bad.

If that field goal was good and Tennessee won, it would change the win-loss record and everyone would be happy because the streak was over, beat Florida, etc, etc, etc.

But, the fact would have remained that Tennessee is not playing to their capability and is not a good football team.

To make matters worse, the field goal wasn't good and they lost and so far that's all they've proven they know how to do against decent competition
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As usual 99, words of wisdom. The Vols, players AND coaches, will look unstoppable and, then, just have some incredible mental lapse that defies the law of gravity and give the game away. It's gotta cease... and soon.
 
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sjt18 said:
Two things.

UF had a RS Fr in his 4th game protected by a very young OL... and you are so scared he will burn you that you play prevent? They playcalled him into virtually the ONLY scenario he was likely to succeed in.

Second, if you want to throw the players under the bus like you just did.... why isn't the secondary any good in Jones' 3rd year?
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Two excellent questions, my friend. And the answers are... still blowin' in the wind.
 
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FEARinSEC said:
What I'd really like to know is where are we ranked for the most ignorant fans?
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I know this might seem totally insane but VolNation has some of the highest football intelligence I've seen. Check out some other sites. Many don't even know anything about actual football, but still comment about meaningless things, like: feelings, color of jerseys, coach's hair style, ignorant fans, etc., etc., etc.,. :)

GO VOLS!
 
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sjt18 said:
Two things.

UF had a RS Fr in his 4th game protected by a very young OL... and you are so scared he will burn you that you play prevent? They playcalled him into virtually the ONLY scenario he was likely to succeed in.

Second, if you want to throw the players under the bus like you just did.... why isn't the secondary any good in Jones' 3rd year?
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Quit saying Jones has thrown players under the bus without providing any actual quotes.

I think you need an education on what "throwing players under the bus" means.

Dooley addressing media : "I told you, these are not good guys"

Dooley was also known to call out individual players BY NAME.

Here is the only thing I have heard from Butch "We could be better with a play here and there".

Sorry that's not throwing players "under the bus" it's just a generic statement that's true. And BTW..."WE" by definition includes the coaches!

What is it you are whining about exactly? Provide proof that Butch is "throwing players under the bus" or STFU
 
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