Tennessee football players involved in brawl

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SandoVOL said:
I guess this is normal, but how is it that all these underclassmen are being allowed to ruin the dignity of the program?
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I'm still trying to figure out how they got into the bars? I'm a student at UT and an upperclassman and not old enough to get in yet, these guys are younger then me and well known.

Something remiss at the bar me thinks.
 
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Bamascoop said:
I think they are innocent, yes.

If any of you have ever been around a bouncer you know they are steroid head posers who are always trying to start ****. They love to fight and are always looking for a fight. They watch Roadhouse twice a week because the are losers.

Football players come in, kids that actually have a shot at life, and loser bouncer starts **** with them. Drunk cop is friends with bouncer because bouncer actually wants to be a cop but is too stupid to pass the exam.

Bouncer pops off his mouth to someone (players) that are not intimidated by him like the frat pussies he has been slapping around all week. They take it outside and the bouncer and the cop can't back it up and get their ass whipped.

Cops and bouncer are bullies for the most part, not all of them but most of them. Looks to me like the bullies got their asses whipped so they called their pathetic cop buddies to cover their ass.

I say screw the cop and the bouncer, it's time for fall camp!!

I am not trying to be funny, that is exactly what I think happened.
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Despite the sweeping generalizations, this could possibly be the closest thing to the truth on here.
 
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SandoVOL said:
I guess this is normal, but how is it that all these underclassmen are being allowed to ruin the dignity of the program?
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I'm still more baffled that underclassmen (younger than 21) are allowed in a bar that late at night.

(btw, I responded on 99 to your response to me; hope that cleared up what I was actually trying to say earlier)
 
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Nerwen Aldarion said:
I'm still trying to figure out how they got into the bars? I'm a student at UT and an upperclassman and not old enough to get in yet, these guys are younger then me and well known.

Something remiss at the bar me thinks.
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What?

Bar Knox lets 18 year olds in. They advertise it.
 
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golfballs03 said:
yes, exactly. and you seem not to be able to comprehend what that means, like there is a steel cage inside bar knoxville that traps players. good grief.
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I understand. You said it was a trap. Then you said it wasn't, but explained why it was. And then you said there was a steel cage. Did you ever think that maybe I'm not the one with the comprehension issues?

Ohiovol09 said:
Tin Roof just opened last year and it is one of the best, cleanest bars on the strip
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Is that the same Tin Roof as Nashville?

I actually kind of like that place on occasion. It is away from Downtown and has a decent house band.
 
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utvols88 said:
yeah it is weak. If Darren gets charged with assault on a police officer i think that would be incredibly weak as well.. unless the officer has a bruise on the left side of his face or Darren doesnt say it was an accident i dont see "assault on a po" standing if he cooperates.
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you can pretty much construe anything to be assault on the officer when you are resisting. if you touch them, it's assault.

but the report said Myles' elbow sturck him below the eye. You think he was throwing bows at the officer?? i just can't believe he would be that dumb
 
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I need the hot tub time machine so i can maybe go forward? in time and just be aware of the results and not the speculations... although it is fun to play scooby doo and call what happened... rut roe raggy.
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
Is that UT's official "picking up the perp from jail" car? Been getting lots of use lately!
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pot calling a kettle black here.

none of the SEC programs (save maybe vanderbilt) are clean enough that they should be ridiculing any of the other ones about disciplinary or off-the-field problems
 
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Bamascoop said:
I think they are innocent, yes.

If any of you have ever been around a bouncer you know they are steroid head posers who are always trying to start ****. They love to fight and are always looking for a fight. They watch Roadhouse twice a week because the are losers.

Football players come in, kids that actually have a shot at life, and loser bouncer starts **** with them. Drunk cop is friends with bouncer because bouncer actually wants to be a cop but is too stupid to pass the exam.

Bouncer pops off his mouth to someone (players) that are not intimidated by him like the frat pussies he has been slapping around all week. They take it outside and the bouncer and the cop can't back it up and get their ass whipped.

Cops and bouncer are bullies for the most part, not all of them but most of them. Looks to me like the bullies got their asses whipped so they called their pathetic cop buddies to cover their ass.

I say screw the cop and the bouncer, it's time for fall camp!!

I am not trying to be funny, that is exactly what I think happened.
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+1
 
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TrueOrange said:
I'm still more baffled that underclassmen (younger than 21) are allowed in a bar that late at night.

(btw, I responded on 99 to your response to me; hope that cleared up what I was actually trying to say earlier)
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Apparently this bar is an 18 and over bar, and the UT football players are given VIP status on Thursday nights. Not sure why, unless it's to help their business or something.
 
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TrueOrange said:
I think he can be allowed to have some required meetings and make some team rules...but I also don't think he can have the power to just say "none of you are allowed to go to bars ever! none of you better be out past 10 on any given night."

they're legally adults. they have to make these decisions of what's right and what's wrong. For example, while these athletes have to make their grades to play, it's their responsibility (just like any other student) to get a tutor from the university to help them and put in the work to get into better standing and attend their classes.

Like on that note, they can't - say - have someone hired by the school to wake up the athletes each day and make sure they get to their classes on time. Some of this can kinda spill more into personally responsibility. I think they make team rules about curfews when they're out of town for games, but I don't think a coach can - within reasonable power - make rules about how late a college football player can and can't stay out during an offseason or say what's allowed for all year round. He can advise and the school can discipline, but they can't be parents to these kids





Well the biology teacher is actually effected by how the class does (so a student missing/failing a class does influence it), however he works with such a larger base that the actions of a few students failing is usually balanced out by those that attend and do well.

I do see the dilemma you're saying here though, as a coach, unlike a professor - and having a smaller sized basis of success, has a career defined by a relatively smaller scale to judge success. However at the same time, if his only job is to coach a team, I'm not sure he can fairly be given powers that seem like they'd be reserved for deans or administrative offices (if they're allowed to have those). It might all just fall under a category of one of the hazards of the job you realize when you take it.
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I understand your view on it.

This is not directed at you, but I have to kinda take issue with a coach/staff that can not make the rules their players abide by. This is kinda chasing a rabbit, but the staff's jobs are at stake. And that doesn't take into consideration the saftey of the players, and those they come into contact with in places like this.

I have a hard time putting this on Fulmer/LK/Dooley...if they can't make the rules we can't expect things like this to happen less.
 
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bigorange said:
again, not what I'm saying in the least... did he die? nope. so let's not play the "what if" game.

If you can't see that the officer hitting his head falling is less malicious than getting it kicked in, then I'm wasting my time talking to a moron. Sure, he shouldn't have even been pushed down or however it happened, but it happened nonetheless. How do you know he wasn't completely intoxicated, got nudged by a much larger individual, wasn't able to stabilize himself and slammed his head on the concrete?
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Of course its less malicious it just doesn't matter. The punishment is the same.
 
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TrueOrange said:
I'm still more baffled that underclassmen (younger than 21) are allowed in a bar that late at night.

(btw, I responded on 99 to your response to me; hope that cleared up what I was actually trying to say earlier)
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Oh I totally got what you were saying, my reply wasn't directed at you in the slightest. I was just following up more on the statement you started and offering my opinion on the "maturity" matter.
 
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